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Originally Posted by DarkAngel:

Best, you are a very intelligent woman. Does it not raise a red flag that the only person that agrees with you on this is Bill Gray? A man that thinks this country should be ran under Christian law?

 

I don't deny that there are probably Democrats that use religion to get what they want politically. This story about the First Lady is not an example of that.

 

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A red flag because a forum of democrats don't agree with me? She is in a church pushing the democratic agenda. She is telling that church the way this government should be run, WWJD in other words. She is politicking, pandering, preaching to the choir, AND also telling them that even if the obama's don't set foot in a church that much they are still good godbots. She is using religion and for the last time, had it been a republican we'd see one of contendah's threads of outrage and all of you jumping in to scream about him being there using god to gather votes, which is exactly what she is doing-that and trying to get them stirred up and on the streets to make sure others vote for obama because THAT is WJWD. 

 

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 On Bush:

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-500463_162-1181451.html

While the president has avoided claiming that God is on the side of the U.S. in the war on terrorism and the war in Iraq, he has often portrayed it as a battle of "good versus evil." In "Plan of Attack," a book about war decision-making, author Bob Woodward quotes the president as saying, "I'm surely not going to justify the war based on God." But he also told Woodward that he prayed "for the strength to do the Lord's will."

Although the president often openly discusses his faith and his aides say he is guided by his beliefs and by prayer; he has not spoken publicly on his personal views on many of the age-old questions about biblical writings. In a 2000 interview with the website Beliefnet.com, He said, "I am not all that comfortable describing my faith because in the political world there are a lot of people who say, 'Vote for me, I'm more religious than my opponent and those kind of folks make me a little nervous." 

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:
quote:   Originally Posted by DarkAngel:

Best, you are a very intelligent woman.  Does it not raise a red flag that the only person that agrees with you on this is Bill Gray?  A man that thinks this country should be ran under Christian law?

 

I don't deny that there are probably Democrats that use religion to get what they want politically. This story about the First Lady is not an example of that.

  
Hi Dark,

 

Yes, politics does make strange bedfellows.  But, although Jennifer and I disagree somewhat (just joking) on issues of God and Christianity -- that does not mean that we disagree on all things.  I find Jennifer's view of Obama, and all associated with him, to be refreshing.

 

Dark, you write, "This story about the First Lady is not an example of that" -- meaning POLITICS.  

 

With the 2012 presidential election only a few months away -- and her free rent for the next four years on the line -- EVERYTHING this woman does IS POLITICAL. 

 

The article tells us: 

 

"Obama, who is not a regular churchgoer, said . . ."

 

and,

 

"Her appearance at the Gaylord Opryland Resort in Nashville, Tenn., was dubbed an official event by the White House to recognize the history and legacy of the AME church, particularly its role in the civil rights movement."

 

and,

 

"Time and again, history has shown us that there is nothing - nothing - more powerful than ordinary citizens coming together for a just cause," Obama said.  "And that is particularly true of folks in the AME church."    What just cause?  To get Obama reelected?

 

and,

 

"The first lady concluded her trip to Tennessee with a campaign fundraiser in Memphis."

 

Dark, with all of this -- can you, honestly, say that all of this was not POLITICAL?

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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Bill, you have now exceeded even your previous ventures into illogicality!

 

The First Lady  was at an AME Church in Nashville, and that is where she made her statements that got your panties in a wad.

 

Then she went to Memphis for a fund raiser, as you stated.

 

But the fact that she went 200 miles from the Nashville appearance to attend a function completely independent of the Nashville appearance has NOTHING to do with the nature of the appearance in Nashville, except in the distorted focus of your irrationality! You obvious intent was to use the latter appearance to prove something about the first, which is totally wacky!

Hi Contendah,

 

With that wonderful logic -- maybe you can explain why the Obamas place their hands over their hearts ON the right side of their chest.   Are they that confused?  Or, maybe they have no heart and so the confusion.    And, don't say it is a reverse image -- for we can see their wedding rings.  Unless they wear their wedding rings on their right hand -- which would explain why they support same-sex marriage.

 

All in all, they embarrass America and Americans.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Hi Contendah,

 

With that wonderful logic -- maybe you can explain why the Obamas place their hands over their hearts ON the right side of their chest.   Are they that confused?  Or, maybe they have no heart and so the confusion.    And, don't say it is a reverse image -- for we can see their wedding rings.  Unless they wear their wedding rings on their right hand -- which would explain why they support same-sex marriage.

 

All in all, they embarrass America and Americans.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Obamas Left Hand Pledge-HEART

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..........And you're either a liar or extremely gullible.

 

 

 

http://urbanlegends.about.com/...nded_flag_salute.htm

 

 

 

It is a mirror-image hoax.

 

-From the article:

 

Netlore Archive: Emailed image appears to show Barack and Michelle Obama saluting the flag by placing their left hands (instead of their right) over their hearts.

<cite>Image source: Unknown, circulating via email</cite>

Description: Viral image 
Circulating since: Dec. 2009 
Status: Fake / False (see details below)


Text example:
Email contributed by Dora K., Dec. 28, 2009:

FW: Clueless.....

Now is it just me, are both of them as dumb as they appear. I guess this could have been taken in a mirror which would screw it up, or maybe it is authentic. I would not doubt it being authentic!!!! Note both have rings on their ring finger and most likely on their left hand. I think they are truly clueless!!!!

His suit coat is buttened correctly, so it is not a mirror image.

These people are so clueless. They are not Americans.

GOD BLESS AMERICA



Analysis: "God bless America," indeed. It's a country where you can spread transparent lies about your own President and flaunt it as proof you're more "American" than he is.

Bravo.

The picture above is a cropped mirror-image of one taken during the commemoration of 9/11 held on the South Lawn of the White House on September 11, 2009. The manipulated version boasts Photoshopped wedding bands and reversed jacket buttons to make it appear as though the image hasn't been tinkered with. The ruse is spoiled by the medals on the uniform of the Marine standing in soft focus behind the President, however — they're on the wrong side of his chest!

Flipped back around, the doctored image is a near-perfect match for a press photo published on Newsday.com which, like several other photos taken on the occasion, clearly shows the President and Mrs. Obama saluting properly with their right hands over their hearts.

similar hoax created in 2002 purported to show Sen. Tom Daschle saying the Pledge with his left hand over his heart.

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You lose.

 

 

Again.

 

Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Hi Contendah,

 

With that wonderful logic -- maybe you can explain why the Obamas place their hands over their hearts ON the right side of their chest.   Are they that confused?  Or, maybe they have no heart and so the confusion.    And, don't say it is a reverse image -- for we can see their wedding rings.  Unless they wear their wedding rings on their right hand -- which would explain why they support same-sex marriage.

 

All in all, they embarrass America and Americans.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Obamas Left Hand Pledge-HEART

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..........And you're either a liar or extremely gullible.

 

 

 

http://urbanlegends.about.com/...nded_flag_salute.htm

 

 

 

It is a mirror-image hoax.

 

-From the article:

 

Netlore Archive: Emailed image appears to show Barack and Michelle Obama saluting the flag by placing their left hands (instead of their right) over their hearts.

<cite>Image source: Unknown, circulating via email</cite>

Description: Viral image 
Circulating since: Dec. 2009 
Status: Fake / False (see details below)


Text example:
Email contributed by Dora K., Dec. 28, 2009:

FW: Clueless.....

Now is it just me, are both of them as dumb as they appear. I guess this could have been taken in a mirror which would screw it up, or maybe it is authentic. I would not doubt it being authentic!!!! Note both have rings on their ring finger and most likely on their left hand. I think they are truly clueless!!!!

His suit coat is buttened correctly, so it is not a mirror image.

These people are so clueless. They are not Americans.

GOD BLESS AMERICA



Analysis: "God bless America," indeed. It's a country where you can spread transparent lies about your own President and flaunt it as proof you're more "American" than he is.

Bravo.

The picture above is a cropped mirror-image of one taken during the commemoration of 9/11 held on the South Lawn of the White House on September 11, 2009. The manipulated version boasts Photoshopped wedding bands and reversed jacket buttons to make it appear as though the image hasn't been tinkered with. The ruse is spoiled by the medals on the uniform of the Marine standing in soft focus behind the President, however — they're on the wrong side of his chest!

Flipped back around, the doctored image is a near-perfect match for a press photo published on Newsday.com which, like several other photos taken on the occasion, clearly shows the President and Mrs. Obama saluting properly with their right hands over their hearts.

similar hoax created in 2002 purported to show Sen. Tom Daschle saying the Pledge with his left hand over his heart.

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You lose.

 

 

Again.

 

 

 

Hey, Joe...

 

Glad you finally got a brain...

Keep that Goggle going on...

Originally Posted by Roland Pfalz:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Hi Contendah,

 

With that wonderful logic -- maybe you can explain why the Obamas place their hands over their hearts ON the right side of their chest.   Are they that confused?  Or, maybe they have no heart and so the confusion.    And, don't say it is a reverse image -- for we can see their wedding rings.  Unless they wear their wedding rings on their right hand -- which would explain why they support same-sex marriage.

 

All in all, they embarrass America and Americans.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Obamas Left Hand Pledge-HEART

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..........And you're either a liar or extremely gullible.

 

 

 

http://urbanlegends.about.com/...nded_flag_salute.htm

 

 

 

It is a mirror-image hoax.

 

-From the article:

 

Netlore Archive: Emailed image appears to show Barack and Michelle Obama saluting the flag by placing their left hands (instead of their right) over their hearts.

<cite>Image source: Unknown, circulating via email</cite>

Description: Viral image 
Circulating since: Dec. 2009 
Status: Fake / False (see details below)


Text example:
Email contributed by Dora K., Dec. 28, 2009:

FW: Clueless.....

Now is it just me, are both of them as dumb as they appear. I guess this could have been taken in a mirror which would screw it up, or maybe it is authentic. I would not doubt it being authentic!!!! Note both have rings on their ring finger and most likely on their left hand. I think they are truly clueless!!!!

His suit coat is buttened correctly, so it is not a mirror image.

These people are so clueless. They are not Americans.

GOD BLESS AMERICA



Analysis: "God bless America," indeed. It's a country where you can spread transparent lies about your own President and flaunt it as proof you're more "American" than he is.

Bravo.

The picture above is a cropped mirror-image of one taken during the commemoration of 9/11 held on the South Lawn of the White House on September 11, 2009. The manipulated version boasts Photoshopped wedding bands and reversed jacket buttons to make it appear as though the image hasn't been tinkered with. The ruse is spoiled by the medals on the uniform of the Marine standing in soft focus behind the President, however — they're on the wrong side of his chest!

Flipped back around, the doctored image is a near-perfect match for a press photo published on Newsday.com which, like several other photos taken on the occasion, clearly shows the President and Mrs. Obama saluting properly with their right hands over their hearts.

similar hoax created in 2002 purported to show Sen. Tom Daschle saying the Pledge with his left hand over his heart.

--------------------------------------------------------------

You lose.

 

 

Again.

 

 

 

Hey, Joe...

 

Glad you finally got a brain...

Keep that Goggle going on...

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Pfft. 'Goggles' are good. 

 

Keeps da bugs out ma eyeballs.

 

Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Roland Pfalz:
Originally Posted by Road Puppy:
Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Hi Contendah,

 

With that wonderful logic -- maybe you can explain why the Obamas place their hands over their hearts ON the right side of their chest.   Are they that confused?  Or, maybe they have no heart and so the confusion.    And, don't say it is a reverse image -- for we can see their wedding rings.  Unless they wear their wedding rings on their right hand -- which would explain why they support same-sex marriage.

 

All in all, they embarrass America and Americans.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Obamas Left Hand Pledge-HEART

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 

..........And you're either a liar or extremely gullible.

 

 

 

http://urbanlegends.about.com/...nded_flag_salute.htm

 

 

 

It is a mirror-image hoax.

 

-From the article:

 

Netlore Archive: Emailed image appears to show Barack and Michelle Obama saluting the flag by placing their left hands (instead of their right) over their hearts.

<cite>Image source: Unknown, circulating via email</cite>

Description: Viral image 
Circulating since: Dec. 2009 
Status: Fake / False (see details below)


Text example:
Email contributed by Dora K., Dec. 28, 2009:

FW: Clueless.....

Now is it just me, are both of them as dumb as they appear. I guess this could have been taken in a mirror which would screw it up, or maybe it is authentic. I would not doubt it being authentic!!!! Note both have rings on their ring finger and most likely on their left hand. I think they are truly clueless!!!!

His suit coat is buttened correctly, so it is not a mirror image.

These people are so clueless. They are not Americans.

GOD BLESS AMERICA



Analysis: "God bless America," indeed. It's a country where you can spread transparent lies about your own President and flaunt it as proof you're more "American" than he is.

Bravo.

The picture above is a cropped mirror-image of one taken during the commemoration of 9/11 held on the South Lawn of the White House on September 11, 2009. The manipulated version boasts Photoshopped wedding bands and reversed jacket buttons to make it appear as though the image hasn't been tinkered with. The ruse is spoiled by the medals on the uniform of the Marine standing in soft focus behind the President, however — they're on the wrong side of his chest!

Flipped back around, the doctored image is a near-perfect match for a press photo published on Newsday.com which, like several other photos taken on the occasion, clearly shows the President and Mrs. Obama saluting properly with their right hands over their hearts.

similar hoax created in 2002 purported to show Sen. Tom Daschle saying the Pledge with his left hand over his heart.

--------------------------------------------------------------

You lose.

 

 

Again.

 

 

 

Hey, Joe...

 

Glad you finally got a brain...

Keep that Goggle going on...

----------------------------------------

 

Pfft. 'Goggles' are good. 

 

Keeps da bugs out ma eyeballs.

 

 

 

Still got the "ratrod bikester"?

Watch out for the idiots in cars!

Obama Keeps the Faith on His BlackBerry

 

Despite the challenges of attending church while in office, Obama has indicated that he has not been detached from his faith or faith communities during his first year.

The President told ABC News in July that he prays every night before going to bed.

"I pray all the time now," Obama said. "I've got a lot of stuff on my plate and I need guidance all the time."

 

Hi Contendah,

 

If this photo is a "mirror image" as you claim -- do the Obamas wear their wedding rings on their right hands?  When one uses his/her left hand across the chest, as they are doing -- they have their hands above the RIGHT side of their bodies.  Take a good look at their wedding rings -- and, then, tell me this is a mirror image.

 

Also, please notice the small flag he has on his lapel.  These are ALWAYS worn on the left lapel.

 

And, this is the Mr. and Mrs. President you want running America for another four years?  When they do not even know their right from their left?

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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quote:   Originally Posted by Jennifer Bestworking:

Obama Keeps the Faith on His BlackBerry:  Despite the challenges of attending church while in office, Obama has indicated that he has not been detached from his faith or faith communities during his first year.   The President told ABC News in July that he prays every night before going to bed.  "I pray all the time now," Obama said. "I've got a lot of stuff on my plate and I need guidance all the time."

Hi Jennifer,

 

BUT, he did not say to whom, or what, he prays!!

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

 

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Wow, Bill. Are you OK? I'm serious. Lately it seems that you are confusing the people who post here. It was PUP, not Contendah, who posted the article debunking the photo. And on top of that, it explained about the rings right in the article:  "The manipulated version boasts Photoshopped wedding bands and reversed jacket buttons to make it appear as though the image hasn't been tinkered with."

 

I don't expect you to admit you are wrong, but I have noticed quite a few of your posts within the past few weeks where you confuse what was said and by whom. As much as you and I disagree on so many things, I'm seriously a bit worried about you. Maybe it's the heat getting to you. Maybe it's overwork. But maybe you should get in for a checkup. None of us are invincible, and when a friend, even a "forum friend" notices a change, it would be wise to step back and see if there is any merit to their claim.

 

As I said, you and I disagree on SO many things, but I truly do wish you good things, and I hope your health is OK.

Hi O No,

 

And, if you believe that -- I have a great bridge in Brooklyn I will sell to you.   And, I can get you a good deal on one in San Francisco!

 

By the way, the couple who run the Urban Legend web site -- are known to be extreme Obama supporters.  They would not post anything negative about Lord Obama if he shot the Pope.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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Originally Posted by Roland Pfalz:

 

 

Still got the "ratrod bikester"?

Watch out for the idiots in cars!

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Yup. Don't hafta wax paint, don't hafta polish chrome-Just fuel it, ride it, and change the oil once inna while.

That works out pretty good for a man of limited means such as meself. 

 

 

Heh. Nope, THEY need to watch out for ME.  I'm used to waging war in the NYC area. Them folks're crazy.  Around here I pretty much know what drivers are gonna do before they even know they're gonna do it. Lead times are looooooonnnnnggggg here.

 

Compare these two photos which some are claiming to be the same -- just mirror images.  In the top photo, we can clearly see their wedding rings, we can clearly see his lapel flag pin -- and we can clearly that her right thumb is TOUCHING the top of her dress near her pearls.

 

In the second photo, showing their hearts to be on the right side -- her thumb if FAR below her neckline.  These photos are NOT mirror images of one another.

 

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Isn't it AMAZING how she changed the side she parts her hair on! And Bill, if your'e honest with yourself you will admit these pictures, even if they are different, were taken at the same place and time. Perhaps one was taken a second or two after the other and she moved her thumb. But you know as well as the rest of us that YOUR picture IS reversed.

quote:   Originally Posted by O No!:

Isn't it AMAZING how she changed the side she parts her hair on! And Bill, if your'e honest with yourself you will admit these pictures, even if they are different, were taken at the same place and time. Perhaps one was taken a second or two after the other and she moved her thumb. But you know as well as the rest of us that YOUR picture IS reversed.


Hi O,

 

Just assuming that one of the photos is reversed -- HOW do you know, for sure, which one?   Explain the wedding rings and the lapel pin.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

quote:   Originally Posted by O No!:

Because in the larger picture the servicemen are shown and unless you think THEY don't know which hand to use, that means the picture WAS reversed. Why do you think they cropped the picture so the servicemen weren't shown?


Hi O,

 

Simple solution!  Similar event, different photo shoot.   And, obviously the Obamas did not have their teleprompter operator at this photo shoot to tell them which hand to use -- they got confused.  Works for me!

 

After all, when the poor couple began to swim in the Socialism Pool -- the polluted water caused extensive brain damage.  Now, they do not know their left from their right. 

 

If only THEY were covered by ObamaCare -- they could get help.  But, since they, and our other  leaders in Washington DC are not under ObamaCare (only for we peons) -- I guess "we the people" will have to pay for more expensive treatments for them.

 

The people voted for CHANGE -- and this is the change we have been given.  But, God willing, only until we vote him out in November.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

 

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Originally Posted by Bill Gray:
quote:   Originally Posted by O No!:

Because in the larger picture the servicemen are shown and unless you think THEY don't know which hand to use, that means the picture WAS reversed. Why do you think they cropped the picture so the servicemen weren't shown?


 

If only THEY were covered by ObamaCare -- they could get help.  But, since they, and our other  leaders in Washington DC are not under ObamaCare (only for we peons) -- I guess "we the people" will have to pay for more expensive treatments for them.

 

The people voted for CHANGE -- and this is the change we have been given.  But, God willing, only until we vote him out in November.

 


 

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Bill educate yourself on this before you continue to make a fool of yourself.

 

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(D) MEMBERS OF CONGRESS IN THE EXCHANGE.—
(i) REQUIREMENT.—Notwithstanding any other provision of law, after the effective date of this sub- title, the only health plans that the Federal Government may make available to Members of Congress and congressional staff with respect to their service as a Member of Congress or congressional staff shall be health plans that are—

(I) created under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act); or

(II) offered through an Exchange established under this Act (or an amendment made by this Act).

(ii) DEFINITIONS.—In this section:

(I) MEMBER OF CONGRESS.—The term ‘‘Member of Congress’’ means any member of the House of Representatives or the Senate.

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