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Originally posted by beternU:
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Originally posted by smokey1:
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Originally posted by beternU:
Looks as though Smokey1 has burned out of hot air and venom. He never had enough substance to set anything on fire.


Venom? That's the pot calling the kettle black. No hot air or venom here. There is no way I'm going to change your mind and you certainly aren't goiing to change mine.

Like I said before, you are an arrogant person who believes he is better and smarter than anyone else so there is no debating with a person like you.


Your smoke-blowing is insufficient to cover up your evasiveness. I suspect that your problem is that you are actually so unschooled in what you believe and why you believe it that you are incapable of defending it. Thus far, you have not offered one tiny grain of substance in response to the detailed information and argumentation I have posted. That is not a very impressive way to defend your faith.


Why won't you tell me what you have against the Catholic Church?


For starters, consider the "anathemas" or curses of d*a*m*nation pronounced by the Catholic Council of Trent against any and all who happen to hold doctrinal views differing from those of the Catholic Church on a multiplicity of subjects. When announcing Vatican II, Pope John XXIII stated that the precepts of the Council of Trent continue to the modern day, a position that was reaffirmed by Pope Paul VI. Thus the following edicts of d*a*m*nation againstthose who dissent with Catholic doctrine are still in force today.
"Has the Roman Catholic Church changed its basic doctrinal position in this present ecumenical era? The answer is no, it has not. The Council of Trent was a Catholic council held from 1545-1563 in an attempt to destroy the progress of the Protestant Reformation. This council denied every Reformation doctrine, including Scripture alone and grace alone. Trent hurled 125 anathemas (eternal ****ations) against Bible-believing Christians. These proclamations and anathemas were fleshed out in the murderous persecutions vented upon Bible-believing Christians by Rome, and the solemn fact is that the Council of Trent has never been annulled. The Vatican II Council of the mid-1960s referred to Trent dozens of times, quoted Trent’s proclamations as authority, and reaffirmed Trent on every hand. The New Catholic Catechism cites Trent no less than 99 times. There is not the slightest hint that the proclamations of the Council of Trent have been abrogated by Rome. At the opening of the Second Vatican Council, Pope John XXIII stated, 'I do accept entirely all that has been decided and declared at the Council of Trent.' Every cardinal, bishop and priest who participated in the Vatican II Council signed a document affirming Trent."

So who's harsh and intolerant now?


See very last entry below for Pope Paul VI endorsement of Trent

Links: http://www.biblebc.com/Roman%2...summary_of_trent.htm

http://www.biblebc.com/Roman%2...il_of_trent_full.htm

FROM: Mysterium Fidei (Mystery of Faith)
Pope Paul VI
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Encyclical Letter of His Holiness promulgated on 3 September 1965:

"These words fully accord with the doctrine of the mystery of the Eucharistic change as set forth by the ecumenical councils. The constant teaching of these councils—of the Lateran, of Constance, Florence and Trent— whether stating the teaching of the Church or condemning errors, affords us an admirable example of the unchangingness of the Catholic Faith."The constant teaching of these councils—of the Lateran, of Constance, Florence and Trent— whether stating the teaching of the Church or condemning errors, affords us an admirable example of the unchangingness of the Catholic Faith."
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