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Re: good read for democrat voters

Jutu ·
Actor and comedian Bill Murray praised Republican tax reform as a “fantastic thing” for business and criticized identity politics in a CNBC interview aired Friday. “The change in the tax law is a great thing for the corporations, it’s a fantastic thing,” Mr. Murray , 67, said during a sit-down interview with CNBC’s “Squawk Box.”
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Re: Repubs not interested in your opinions

peeler ·
Wow - it is truly difficult to have an argument of wits with an unarmed person! Originally Posted by skippy delepepper: Originally Posted by seeweed: Originally Posted by peeler: Heh." He had no wars" Bush only had the one war that he started against Iraq under complete and false pretenses and the other one in Afghanistan, started after 9/11 occurred ON HIS WATCH! Obama was elected partially by promising to end Iraq and Afganistan. He started Lybia. Face it he had no idea what he was in for.
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Re: Repubs not interested in your opinions

skippy delepepper ·
Originally Posted by peeler: Wow - it is truly difficult to have an argument of wits with an unarmed person! Originally Posted by skippy delepepper: Originally Posted by seeweed: Originally Posted by peeler: Heh." He had no wars" Bush only had the one war that he started against Iraq under complete and false pretenses and the other one in Afghanistan, started after 9/11 occurred ON HIS WATCH! Obama was elected partially by promising to end Iraq and Afganistan. He started Lybia. Face it he...
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Re: Romneycare and Obamacare Not the Same

TheMeInTeam ·
http://www.theonion.com/articl...-to-help-unin,20097/ BELMONT, MA—Though Mitt Romney is considered to be a frontrunner for the 2012 Republican presidential nomination, the national spotlight has forced him to repeatedly confront a major skeleton in his political closet: that as governor of Massachusetts he once tried to help poor, uninsured sick people. Romney, who signed the state's 2006 health care reform act, has said he "deeply regrets" giving people in poor physical and mental health...
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Re: Nancy Pelosi (What's Good for the Goose is not Good for Her Gander)

Mr.Dittohead ·
The waiver in SanFran allows insurers to set lower limits on annual benefits than OBamaCare will eventually allow, because right now the benefits are arbitrarily low. The waiver in NV allows insurers to continue to spend only 75% of premiums on benefits, the so-called medical loss ratio. In the 1990's, when Clinton was trying to reform healthcare, medical loss ratios were at about 94% and that was thought to be to low at the time. 75% is ridiculous. The waivers are gifts to insurance companies.
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Re: Mo Brooks Secret Society

Mr.Dittohead ·
Thats not true. I know of two folks that are 50-55 years old, have some health issues but still work everyday, drive, fly their own plane, etc, and pay over $12,000/year for insurance after shopping around to every company in AlObama. And insurance in AlObama is cheaper than the national average. Even the threat of Medicare reform will cost the Repubs seats in the House and control of the Senate.
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Re: Mo Brooks Secret Society

interventor1212 ·
Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead: Thats not true. I know of two folks that are 50-55 years old, have some health issues but still work everyday, drive, fly their own plane, etc, and pay over $12,000/year for insurance after shopping around to every company in AlObama. And insurance in AlObama is cheaper than the national average. Even the threat of Medicare reform will cost the Repubs seats in the House and control of the Senate. So, two people found insurance for about $6,000 per person.
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Re: Mo Brooks Secret Society

Mr.Dittohead ·
Originally Posted by interventor1212: Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead: Thats not true. I know of two folks that are 50-55 years old, have some health issues but still work everyday, drive, fly their own plane, etc, and pay over $12,000/year for insurance after shopping around to every company in AlObama. And insurance in AlObama is cheaper than the national average. Even the threat of Medicare reform will cost the Repubs seats in the House and control of the Senate. So, two people found...
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Re: Obama Administration Approves 34.4 Million for Top 6 Fannie & Freddie Execs.

Ronnie P. ·
What do you think about Barney Frank admitting getting a ***** position for his boyfriend while he served on the board overseeing ***** and Freddy preventing reform that would have prevented the housing collapse?
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Re: NY 26th GOES DEMOCRAT

interventor1212 ·
" Rep. John Shimkus noted that the Obama administration’s chief actuary for Medicare, Richard Foster, has said that the administration cannot simultaneously bolster Medicare and fund health-care reform without adding to the deficit. “There is an issue here on the budget, because your own actuary has said, you can’t double-count,” said Shimkus. “Your own actuary says you can’t do both. So, my simple question -- I have 27 seconds left -- what’s the $500 billion in cuts for? Preserving Medicare...
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Re: Seemed like a good idea

interventor1212 ·
Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead: Except for the $3 Trillion is debt that was created....oh well debt/GDP is still only about 85%!!! One more time, tax cuts resulted in increased revenue, especially corporate tax as people spent on goods and services. Increased spending was the cause of the debt. INCREASED SPENDING!
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Re: Taxes Must Rise So Goverment Doesn't Shrink

The Propagandist ·
Grover Norquist, president Americans for Tax Reform ( ATR ), has extracted a pledge from almost all Republicans not to raise taxes, any taxes, under any circumstances. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLLNee8O5WA Norquist is also a proponent of the “starve the beast” strategy. The reasoning goes something like this: Cutting taxes will decrease government revenue, thus forcing similar cuts in government spending. With less money to spend, the government will be forced to shrink, thus crippling...
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Re: . The Republican Party Has Lost Its Way

Nobluedog ·
Industry/Corporations on welfare. This is very interesting. Penn Central Railroad 1970 1.In May 1970, Penn Central Railroad, then on the verge of bankruptcy, appealed to the Federal Reserve for aid on the grounds that it provided crucial national defense transportation services. The Nixon administration and the Federal Reserve supported providing financial assistance to Penn Central, but Congress refused to adopt the measure. Penn Central declared bankruptcy on June 21, 1970, which freed the...
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Re: What is the McCain-Feingold Bill?

The Incriminator ·
It didn't effect o'guano. He spent almost SEVEN HUNDRED AND FIFTY MILLION DOLLARS! That's more than $100 million more than Bush spent in TWO campaigns! McCain spent about $340 million. Talking about buying an election!
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Re: Give Act Hr 1388 Obama copying the Nazis

LMM ·
A bill entitled "The Edward M. Kennedy Serve America Act, an Act to reauthorize and reform the national service laws." See H.R. 1388 on THOMAS for the official source of information on this bill or resolution. Overview Sponsor: Rep. Carolyn McCarthy [D-NY]show cosponsors (37) Cosponsors [as of 2009-04-23] Rep. Doris Matsui [D-CA] Del. Madeleine Bordallo [D-GU] Rep. Paul Tonko [D-NY] Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee [D-TX] Rep. Robert Andrews [D-NJ] Rep. Dennis Kucinich [D-OH] Rep. Joe Courtney [D-CT]...
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Re: Republicans Will Be Toast in 2010 If the Dems Pass Health Reform.

Pepper Lewis ·
Damm right.Once Obama gets this BS passed and the democrat controlled government has control of the medical system,they'll probably pull up your voting record to determine if you warrant medical treatment or not.If you vote republican,you might as well stand up,put your head between your legs,and kiss your ass goodbye.
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Re: Republicans Will Be Toast in 2010 If the Dems Pass Health Reform.

marksw59 ·
I at least partially agree. GASP! Yet I think you did not take your thought process to its logical conclusion. If this "health care reform" gets passed, then the "cap and trade" will be a snap for the Dems. Then America as a whole is toast. Not the United States, but America, the concept of it as a shining city on the hill will be forever relegated to a romantic, and some will say foolish notion. At that point you can probably watch the decay in real time.
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Re: Republicans Will Be Toast in 2010 If the Dems Pass Health Reform.

redbull ·
Uh Oh. Now Harry says he won't rush this. WASHINGTON — Senate Democratic leaders on Thursday abandoned plans for a vote on health care before Congress' August recess, dealing a blow to President Barack Obama's ambitious timetable to revamp the nation's $2.4 trillion system of medical care. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., delivered the official pronouncement, saying, "It's better to have a product based on quality and thoughtfulness rather than try to jam something through." His...
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Re: Republicans Will Be Toast in 2010 If the Dems Pass Health Reform.

Jankinonya ·
Ok I have been trying to make my way through the (over) 1000 pages of this convoluted mess they are passing as "health reform". So far my impression is that it will only hurt the ones that need help. I think there needs to be something done about the cost and availability of health care in this country, but I am not sure about all this. I was a widowed mother of 2 small children at a period in my life. When my husband died the insurance he had through his work was taken away. I struggled for...
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Re: Republicans Will Be Toast in 2010 If the Dems Pass Health Reform.

Flatus the Ancient ·
I suspect that if no health care bill is passed that costs will continue to soar like a July 4'th bottle rocket. If a overhaul bill passes Congress and the President signs it, then costs will blast off like the Saturn 5. http://www.foxnews.com/politic...-health-care-reform/
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Re: Entitlement Programs

elinterventor01 ·
The Republicans have not stated they wish to dispose of social security. That's another regressive propaganda point. They have stated reform is needed. But, for those already on social security or preparing to go, no changes are recommended. Income to the social security accounts must not go to the general fund. I'd rather see the cash stacked in a vault, than let the politicians get their hands on it. In this forum, I've already recommended ways the funds could be invested in federal assets...
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Re: Entitlement Programs

Buttercup ·
Well, okay, maybe not all Republicans want to do away with it but the majority of anchors and guests on Fox Business News sure want to get rid of it. That's been topic number one for the last few days on that channel. I do agree with keeping the cash out of our politicians' hands. And apparently I've missed your other recommendations for investing the funds. (I know you're in shock over the realization that I haven't read every el post.)
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Re: Why Barack?

skymaster ·
Just a few reasons not to vote for Obama. From the voice. “Obama opposed a bill in 2006 that would have denied citizenship or other legal status to illegal immigrants, and voted last year against a measure that would have allowed police to question people about their immigration status under certain circumstance. “He voted in favor of the immigration reform bill sponsored by John McCain and Ted Kennedy that would have allowed many illegal aliens to become legal residents. “Last October Obama...
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Re: YOU can do YOUR part

rocky ·
[QUOTE]Originally posted by NashBama: I get my health insurance through my job. There is a strong possibility I'll be laid off soon. That means I'll lose my health insurance and because my wife has pre-existing conditions, it will be expensive to buy it ourselves. Do you actually know that under the Health insurance reform act you will be able to buy insurance although you have a pre-existing condition? Of course you do. Don't like the price? Tell it to the republicans! The one thing that...
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Re: YOU can do YOUR part

Jennifer ·
Good old democrapic doublespeak from the king of doublespeak: ************************************************* ABC News' Jake Tapper and Sunlen Miller report: At a rally in Holmdel, New Jersey, today, President Obama continued making a promise about health care reform that he has acknowledged isn’t literally true. “Let me be exactly clear about what health care reform means to you,” the president told residents of the Garden State. “First of all, if you’ve got health insurance, you like...
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Re: YOU can do YOUR part

mad American ·
From the left of course. How much tax is too much tax? If progressives really cared about what is right they would be supporting a flat tax or fair tax. Instead they push the lie that the rich don't pay their fair share. Pass tax reform where everyone pays the same percentage.
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Re: YOU can do YOUR part

seeweed ·
I hope your health improves. What parts of the health insurance reform that are currently applying just went into affect 7 days ago, and if all that you speak of has really happened to you, you are one sick person. Good luck on recovery !
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Re: YOU can do YOUR part

tada ·
Why thank you! You are so kind but wrong as well. They went into effect right after the passage which was sometime before October I believe. Just before passage I could get my prescription for a generic pill for 5.00. Now that same prescription is now $35. The reason was " Due to the new healthcare law that was recently signed your provider does not cover that prescription anymore." Was the pharmacist lying? I don't know. Obama...Obama...Obama... and the chant goes on....
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Re: YOU can do YOUR part

seeweed ·
So, what you are saying is that since the CBO has stated that the insurance reform will SAVE our government 280 BILLION Dollars, that SAVING money is going to cost you more ? I'm sorry, but my major in college was math, and saving money does not equate to raising the income necessary to cover the decrease in spending. If you believe that cutting spending will increase your taxes, then you must believe that increased spending will lessen your taxes and if that is your belief, there is no...
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Re: YOU can do YOUR part

seeweed ·
I would be very interested to hear that logic. I scanned (not to be confused with read with understanding) the bill, and I fail to see how there could be any connection, with the possible exception that your insurance company is just giving you a good screwing. The cost of meds has been skyrocketing for years. According to my Blue Cross , back when I was still working and went to the meetings, script cost was the single largest reason our insurance rates were climbing so quickly. Following...
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Re: You baptism is probably invalid

WINDSONG ·
O NO, here is part of what you asked for. I suggest you read a few verses before these to get the idea of what is being talked about. 1. God gives His power and authority, no one can take it upon themselves. John 15:16---Hebrews 5:4 2. Jesus called and ordained 12 apostles, Luke 6:13 3, Beginning of the APOSTASY, Mark 12:1-9 4. Speaking of the APOSTACY, Acts:28-30, 5. APOSTACY continued, 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 6. More on the APOSTACY, 1 Timothy 4:1-3 , 2 Timothy 4:3-4 , 2 Peter 2:1-2 After...
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Re: Repubs not interested in your opinions

Karl Leuba ·
So Far we have seen only a Republican attack on Medicare, and the Obama Health Care Reform has been left as is. I think you might want to question why the repeal movement has no traction in Congress.
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Re: Obamacare, taking care of who?

Mr.Dittohead ·
The SCOTUS will decide on the Constitutionality of the law, probably on a 5-4 vote. The Repubes had their chance to repair the dysfunctional medical insurance system in the country, but chose not to act. The system has to be reformed and the ACA will cause such reform in one way or another. The ACA is the first step to lifetime Medicare for everyone, and since Medicare is now a permanent and Constitutional part of America, so shall the ACA provisions.
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Re: In case you missed it.

The Propagandist ·
Originally Posted by interventor1212: Propie, Lucky for you, there are no laws, nor ordinances against beating a dead horse. For you are surely guilty! NAFTA has long ceased to be a problem. NAFTA was but the first in a long line of disastrous trade policies. If NAFTA opened the door, WTO kicked it down and looted the house. Many trade agreements have been signed since then using the NAFTA model. The China trade toll : Widespread wage suppression, 2 million jobs lost in the U.S.
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Re: In case you missed it.

interventor1212 ·
Originally Posted by The Propagandist: Originally Posted by interventor1212: Propie, Lucky for you, there are no laws, nor ordinances against beating a dead horse. For you are surely guilty! NAFTA has long ceased to be a problem. NAFTA was but the first in a long line of disastrous trade policies. If NAFTA opened the door, WTO kicked it down and looted the house. Many trade agreements have been signed since then using the NAFTA model. The China trade toll : Widespread wage suppression, 2...
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Re: Rick Perry too liberal for Republicans?

The Propagandist ·
Originally Posted by Contendah: States rights or whatever, it is sorta crazy that a kid who is an American citizen living just over the border in Louisiana or Arkansas is required to pay the costly out-of-state tuition to attend a Texas university or college and an immigrant kid who is illegally in Texas can get in-state tuition. Rick Perry is NOT too liberal for some Republicans. But, as with other candidates, he is too liberal for most of the clueless Tea Party dingbats. Those...
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Re: Dorothy Cooper: 96-year-old victim of GOP voter suppression

b50m ·
In some states, such as Alabama, members of the KKK worked for political and social reform. The state's Klansmen were among the foremost advocates of better public schools, effective prohibition enforcement, expanded road construction, and other political measures which benefited lower-class white people. By 1925, the Klan was a political force in the state, as leaders such as J. Thomas Heflin , David Bibb Graves , and Hugo Black manipulated the KKK membership to try to build political power...
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Re: "Down With Evil Corporations!"

ryokurin 2 ·
Originally Posted by b50m: They continue to block generic forms of medicine that could save people’s lives or provide relief in order to protect investments that have already turned a substantial profit. Obama made the deal with Pharma to give patent rights for 12 years instead of 5, blame him. After lobbyist pressured to remove support for the healthcare reform bill if it was modified, and he wasn't even trying for five, which is what traditional pharmaceuticals receive, but seven. In the...
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Re: If you get sick; DIE QUICKLY!

teyates ·
rocky, welcome back. Sadly the healthcare debacle orchestrated by the Dems was a focus in the wrong direction. Many of us who know about healthcare have said for years that one of the primary issues in any healthcare reform has to be an element of tort reform, which this administration, who is in the pockets of the trial lawyers, has totally ignored. For instance take a gander at this little bit of info I got recently....you will see that some studies have shown that a physician practicing...
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Re: If you get sick; DIE QUICKLY!

JimiHendrix ·
Originally Posted by teyates: rocky, welcome back. Sadly the healthcare debacle orchestrated by the Dems was a focus in the wrong direction. Many of us who know about healthcare have said for years that one of the primary issues in any healthcare reform has to be an element of tort reform, which this administration, who is in the pockets of the trial lawyers, has totally ignored. For instance take a gander at this little bit of info I got recently....you will see that some studies have shown...
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Re: If you get sick; DIE QUICKLY!

rocky ·
Originally Posted by teyates: rocky, welcome back. Sadly the healthcare debacle orchestrated by the Dems was a focus in the wrong direction. Many of us who know about healthcare have said for years that one of the primary issues in any healthcare reform has to be an element of tort reform, which this administration, who is in the pockets of the trial lawyers, has totally ignored. For instance take a gander at this little bit of info I got recently....you will see that some studies have shown...
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Re: If you get sick; DIE QUICKLY!

rocky ·
Originally Posted by teyates: I think you have me figured wrong Rocky. I am not in an administrative job, I too am a "front liner". My wife is also a nurse. We have seen and know many similar horror stories. I even had a personal experience with one this past year with my mother. I know people who do not seek out care, and I also know many doctors who have become calloused to the system because of lawsuits and legal issues which have them scared to give care. The answer is not as simple as a...
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Re: What does it take to become a legal US citizen?

O No! ·
It would seem to me that the way to keep people from coming here illegally would be to reform the immigration system. But what do I know? After all, I am a liberal and a Christian.
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Re: Cain tries to explain his tax plan on Meet The Press

Contendah ·
Who said "... " the worst idea is a proposed national sales tax, which is a disguised VAT (value added tax) on top of everything we already pay in federal taxes." Who also said this , less than a year ago? "Even worse is reason number two: In every country that has established a VAT with the promise of reducing its national debt, the VAT has eventually gone up or expanded on top of the existing tax structure. After discovering many of the tax grenades in the recently passed health care...
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Re: The Cain flameout is about to ignite

b50m ·
I put this up already but I'll take this Godfather over Norquist. He's just a lobbyist.
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Re: The Cain flameout is about to ignite

Mr.Dittohead ·
Originally Posted by b50m: I put this up already but I'll take this Godfather over Norquist. He's just a lobbyist. Mr. Laffer must have have understood that cap gains is are not taxed under 999. Mr. Laffer must also not realize the burden to be placed on businesses to deal with yet another sales tax. And how hard and expensive it will be to enforce paying the sales tax.
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Re: Cain tries to explain his tax plan on Meet The Press

Buttercup ·
Originally Posted by Contendah: Who said "... " the worst idea is a proposed national sales tax, which is a disguised VAT (value added tax) on top of everything we already pay in federal taxes." Who also said this , less than a year ago? "Even worse is reason number two: In every country that has established a VAT with the promise of reducing its national debt, the VAT has eventually gone up or expanded on top of the existing tax structure. After discovering many of the tax grenades in the...
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Re: Cain's Stimulating '9-9-9' Tax Reform

Buttercup ·
Originally Posted by b50m: Federal tax tables for a married couple after deductions for this year are; $0 to $17,000 is 10% $17,000 and $69,000 is 15% $69,000 to $139,350 it is 25%. Now if you think that 9% is too high for these groups, tell me why. ============================================================================ Again, it is "in addition to" that's the problem because it doesn't replace other taxes. Cain says he'll get rid of the built-in taxes on goods and services, but he...
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Re: Ultimate wickedness

Bill Gray ·
Hi Firenze, You find something I wrote in my earlier post offensive. I have gone back and looked at that post -- and, honestly I cannot see what I wrote that you find offensive. I wrote that Deep is an atheist who preaches for his Church of Nothing and augments that from his Church of YouTube. Do you find that offensive? If so, why? We all know that Deep is a avowed atheist -- atheism does indeed teach Nothing -- and, Deep most certainly is addicted to YouTube. And, I asked Con/Beter if he...
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Re: OPPORTUNITY!!!

Roland Pfalz ·
Originally Posted by Mr.Dittohead: Originally Posted by Bestworking: --------------------------------------- If you don't know how it works, if you've never been concerned enough to find out how people get on the government dole, what are you doing even posting on the subject? If you want "official sources" do what everyone else that is interested in it does, ask the "officials". Or you can visit the websites for the print out forms and "guidelines". There is just a bit more to it than...
 
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