Tagged With "George Zimmerman"
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Re: Another body for Obama and MSNBC
How many cases of "this is justice for trayvon" does this make now? And, what "justice" were all the other attacks on whites, just for being white and in the wrong neighborhood, before trayvon? And lastly, are they going after the hispanics for the same thing? Seriously I don't know. The media did a fine job of fanning the flames of hatred by constantly referring to zimmerman as a "white hispanic". I guess obama thinks all those reporters/news outlets making millions/billions are earning...
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Re: Trayvon Martin
The case appears to be that Zimmerman stalked the young man, even after being warned by 911 personnel not to do so. I don't see how this shooting can be justified.
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Re: Trayvon Martin
Here's what we know: 17-year-old Trayvon Martin was visiting his father in Florida, walked to a nearby store to buy Skittles and an iced tea during halftime of the NBA All-Star game, and was chased down and shot by George Zimmerman on his way back. Zimmerman was a community watch officer who called 911 because he thought Martin looked suspicious (he described this suspicious behavior as "just walking around and looking about"), and we know from the recording of that call that he was chasing...
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Re: Trayvon Martin
A witness says Zimmerman did listen to the cops at first and waited in his card. The victim then approached him in his car. Bottom line is that we won't know what happened until the details are ironed out. Until then, Zimmerman ought to be in jail. He lost is "self defense": defense as soon as he ignored the demands of the 911 dispatcher to wait for the cops. A child is dead because of that stupidity.
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Re: Trayvon Martin
Once again as usual we have a story and not all the facts, especially not enough to make a good judgement call. So let's try out this, Zimmerman lives in a affluent "Gated" community. He does so because he is affluent and can afford it, he's tired of theft, home intrusions, burglary in the drug ridden State of Florida. But thieves have to steal from those with property, so gated communities still have thefts no matter what the realitor told him when he moved there, so to combat these a...
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Re: Trayvon Martin
Originally Posted by JJ: Everyone is jumping to conclusions based on what they read or hear in the media. How about waiting until a thorough investigation based on fact is completed instead of listening to the talking heads who only concern is sensationalism? Then let the chips fall where they may. You know, due process and all that other constitutional stuff. The main reason that this case has generated so much national attention and outrage is precisely because the Sanford police failed to...
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Re: Trayvon Martin
Originally Posted by TheMeInTeam: Originally Posted by JJ: Everyone is jumping to conclusions based on what they read or hear in the media. How about waiting until a thorough investigation based on fact is completed instead of listening to the talking heads who only concern is sensationalism? Then let the chips fall where they may. You know, due process and all that other constitutional stuff. The main reason that this case has generated so much national attention and outrage is precisely...
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Re: Trayvon Martin
The link below is a video from Channel 2 claiming prosecutors advised police they did not have enough evidence for a manslaughter conviction. Witnesses claim Zimmerman was attacked . Treyvon Martin's father stated the voice on the 911 tape of a man in terror crying for help was not his son's voice leaving it to be Zimmerman's. Several Video's of this case are on the same website (Ch 2 ) one showing a "Gated Community" and implying it is the one involved. If this is the place, it would be...
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Re: Trayvon Martin
They are trying REALLY hard to make this about race. I think the fact that zimmerman is hispanic threw a wrench in the works, but they're working around that. This is not the first time zimmerman has "gone after someone" according to articles I've read. He sounds like an overzealous nutcase.
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Re: The full side of Treyvon Martin
Okay re: the size I believe Zimmerman is 5'9" and Marin 6'0" based on the police report. The police report does say Zimmerman was bleeding from his face and the back of his head and had grass stains on his back. He also said he had "yelled for someone to help him". No witness reports though. http://www.sanfordfl.gov/inves...Initial%20Report.pdf
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Re: The full side of Treyvon Martin
And it begins to unfold: "The guy on the bottom who had a red sweater on was yelling to me: 'help, help…and I told him to stop and I was calling 911," he said. Trayvon Martin was in a hoodie; Zimmerman was in red. The witness only wanted to be identified as "John," and didn't not want to be shown on camera. His statements to police were instrumental, because police backed up Zimmerman's claims, saying those screams on the 911 call are those of Zimmerman. "When I got upstairs and looked down,...
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Re: The full side of Treyvon Martin
So if someone starts following me in the dark....then starts chasing me as I run to get away from this stranger...then he catches me and we fight....then he shoots and kills me....thats ok because I should not have been fighting back to protect myself... got it... Sounds like Zimmerman wasn't the bad azz he wanted to be without a gun. He bit off more than he could chew when he started following and chasing this young man, and when he started getting his azz whipped he pulled out a gun and...
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Re: The full side of Treyvon Martin
http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayv...5959017#.T237m45reXw Zimmerman is a vigilante. He chased and ran down and unarmed kid and then shot him dead when the boy tried to defend himself.
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Re: The full side of Treyvon Martin
Originally Posted by Chuck Farley: But if her only verbally confronted Martin and Martin attacked him and had him down it may be justifiable. It's not against the law to ask someone what they are doing. Since Zimmerman was not a police officer and he had been following and chasing Trayvon, I am sure that the kid was scared to death when Zimmerman caught him. What would you do if you had just been chased down by a man for no reason and cornered? Would you not be ready to defend yourself?
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Re: 14-year-old girl stabbed to death at Florence party
Best, I think I thoroughly understand, and if so I agree, " If you can't raise 'em and feed 'em, don't breed 'em" !!!! If you have them it's your responsibly to raise them, not your parent's, not your spouse's ( but one should make every effort to select a proper parent to have children by), not your neighbor's and not our tax dollars, nor the government's to raise our children. And no, I don't want someone else, giving me unsolicited advice or interference in any task I may chose,...
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Re: Trevon Martin burgler?
For or against all judgments should be held until more facts are known. The real crucial piece of information that needs to be known is who attacked who first? It's known this boy was followed. It's known or reported that the boy decked the man, broke his nose, and hit his head on the ground, but what is not known is if the boy sought out the man who followed him or if Zimmerman actually provoked the attack. Regardless of what happened the Black Panther's call for capture live or dead is...
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Re: Trevon Martin burgler?
I think that now we have established that Treyvon Martin was a thug instead of a fresh faced 12 year old we can evaluate the evidence. Most of what Zimmerman said was corroborated by a witness. Those was his screams for help on the tape. The physical evidence supports his account. If some thug was walking around my neighborhood with a hood on I'd want the neighborhood watch checking him out. Chris Rock's security would be calling the cops.
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Re: Trevon Martin burgler?
That isn't what Zimmerman man said. From the transcript: This guy looks like he’s up to no good or he’s on drugs or something. It’s raining and he’s just walking around looking about. [00:25] Continue reading on Examiner.com George Zimmerman's 911 call transcribed - National unsolved cases | Examiner.com http://www.examiner.com/unsolv...cribed#ixzz1qNNQDQD3
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Re: Trevon Martin burgler?
Hold the presses, Zimmerman is a resisted Democrat in Florida. Arrest that white boy.
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Re: Updates in the Trayvon Martin Case Suggest Martin was the Aggressor
Hypothetical: Trayvon is being followed and yelled at, feels threatened. Under the law, had he turned around and shot the guy, he would have been acting in self defense, but if Trayvon is being followed and yelled at, feels threatened, then turned around and beat the s*** out of the guy, he is an aggressor, and Zimmerman has every right to shoot him? (Again, hypothetical, depending on interpretation of the "Stand Your Ground" Law.) (In this case, we could layer and layer the law and say...
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Re: Updates in the Trayvon Martin Case Suggest Martin was the Aggressor
Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch captain and a neighborhood watch captain or anyone for that matter has the right to check someone and ask what they are doing. Martin didn't have a right to attack him.
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Re: Updates in the Trayvon Martin Case Suggest Martin was the Aggressor
Originally Posted by Chuck Farley: Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch captain and a neighborhood watch captain or anyone for that matter has the right to check someone and ask what they are doing. Martin didn't have a right to attack him. He has that right, of course, careless as Zimmerman was (call the cops, let them handle it, kid wasn't committing a crime, just walking, with a hoodie, profiled), but Trayvon doesn't have the right to protect himself if he feels threatened? What is the...
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Re: Updates in the Trayvon Martin Case Suggest Martin was the Aggressor
Originally Posted by Chuck Farley: Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch captain and a neighborhood watch captain or anyone for that matter has the right to check someone and ask what they are doing. Martin didn't have a right to attack him. Zimmerman was also a paranoid dude that frequently called 9-1-1 for some mundane, non-criminal things and was always overly suspicious of anything (reported a black guy with loud music as a suspected car thief).
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Re: Updates in the Trayvon Martin Case Suggest Martin was the Aggressor
The problem is that no one can know because they weren't there. All we can do is put ourselves in the situation in our minds, and then say what WE would have done. I would never have followed the young man. Once the police told zimmerman not to follow him, that should have been the end of it. Then again, who knows, maybe that was the end of it, and then martin followed zimmerman and confronted him, thus making him the "attacker". It's odd that in this day and time, when there are video...
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Re: Updates in the Trayvon Martin Case Suggest Martin was the Aggressor
Would this have even made the news if Martin was WHITE??? Having said this...WHAT RIGHT does the New Black Panther Party have in offering up a REWARD for Zimmerman: DEAD or ALIVE? WHY aren't THEY being prosecuted for 'conspiracy to commit murder'? Oh, yeah....I forgot: .A.G. Holder is black.......
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Re: Updates in the Trayvon Martin Case Suggest Martin was the Aggressor
Originally Posted by dogsoldier0513: Would this have even made the news if Martin was WHITE??? Having said this...WHAT RIGHT does the New Black Panther Party have in offering up a REWARD for Zimmerman: DEAD or ALIVE? WHY aren't THEY being prosecuted for 'conspiracy to commit murder'? Oh, yeah....I forgot: .A.G. Holder is black....... ======= a.g. holder has no recollection of the memo stating he is a black.
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Re: Updates in the Trayvon Martin Case Suggest Martin was the Aggressor
Originally Posted by hayssco23: Originally Posted by Chuck Farley: Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch captain and a neighborhood watch captain or anyone for that matter has the right to check someone and ask what they are doing. Martin didn't have a right to attack him. Zimmerman was also a paranoid dude that frequently called 9-1-1 for some mundane, non-criminal things and was always overly suspicious of anything (reported a black guy with loud music as a suspected car thief). They had 8...
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Re: Updates in the Trayvon Martin Case Suggest Martin was the Aggressor
On the 911 recording Zimmerman ask Martin what he was doing, he didn't yell at him. And the "Police" never ordered Zimmerman to do anything on the 911 tape, a non police 911 operator told Zimmerman they didn't need him to follow Martin. 911 operators have no authority to order people around, they answer Fire, Police and EMT calls that's why on the tape you will hear her ask what type of emergency and help is needed, Fire, Police or Ambulance. In 1968 L.A.P.D. had the World Best Rating and...
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Re: Was Trayvon Martin A Drug Dealer?
So now innocent family members of Zimmerman are in fear of their lives.
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Re: Was Trayvon Martin A Drug Dealer?
ok...bottom line...he was a watchman ONLY...NOT hired as a ARMED watchman....he was to ONLY report what he seen to the Police....NOT to talk to...or approach anyone....He did not do what he was told to do....he confronted the 17 year old...after he was told not to....now from my years of experience I can tell you that unless you are just looking for trouble you best keep your mouth shut! Don't start any crap and we won't have to deal with any crap! but no no he had to follow behinid him like...
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Re: Was Trayvon Martin A Drug Dealer?
Bottom line may be everyone may want to look at the Official Police Report made the night of the incident and listen to all 8 of the 911 tapes and I think you could be enlightened. All of these are available online to all interested. The news media has to sell the news to get paid, and will report what gets the most viewing. On the 911 recording Zimmerman ask Martin what he was doing, he didn't yell at him. And the "Police" never ordered Zimmerman to do anything on the 911 tape, a non police...
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Re: Was Trayvon Martin A Drug Dealer?
Originally Posted by Justice for All: ok...bottom line...he was a watchman ONLY...NOT hired as a ARMED watchman....he was to ONLY report what he seen to the Police....NOT to talk to...or approach anyone....He did not do what he was told to do....he confronted the 17 year old...after he was told not to....now from my years of experience I can tell you that unless you are just looking for trouble you best keep your mouth shut! Don't start any crap and we won't have to deal with any crap! but...
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Re: Updates in the Trayvon Martin Case Suggest Martin was the Aggressor
Originally Posted by Chuck Farley: Originally Posted by hayssco23: Originally Posted by Chuck Farley: Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch captain and a neighborhood watch captain or anyone for that matter has the right to check someone and ask what they are doing. Martin didn't have a right to attack him. Zimmerman was also a paranoid dude that frequently called 9-1-1 for some mundane, non-criminal things and was always overly suspicious of anything (reported a black guy with loud music as...
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Re: Updates in the Trayvon Martin Case Suggest Martin was the Aggressor
Hayssco, you are right. There are thousands of black kids that wear hoodies that never do anything. There are thousands of white kids that wear hoodies and never do anything. There are thousands of white kids skulking around neighborhoods that creep out white people, there are black kids skulking around neighborhoods that creep out black people, yet are doing nothing wrong. There are thousands of kids black and white that wear hoodies and skulk around neighborhoods to steal, rob someone,...
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Re: Updates in the Trayvon Martin Case Suggest Martin was the Aggressor
Originally Posted by hayssco23: Originally Posted by Chuck Farley: Zimmerman was the neighborhood watch captain and a neighborhood watch captain or anyone for that matter has the right to check someone and ask what they are doing. Martin didn't have a right to attack him. He has that right, of course, careless as Zimmerman was (call the cops, let them handle it, kid wasn't committing a crime, just walking, with a hoodie, profiled), but Trayvon doesn't have the right to protect himself if he...
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Re: Was Trayvon Martin A Drug Dealer?
Martin may have a history with his teenage years coming out...what teenager has not be in trouble of some kind...that doesn't mean they should be killed...the cornor spoke this morning and there were no brusies on his fingers or hands to indicate he had punched anyone in the nose!!!Originally Posted by Chuck Farley: Originally Posted by Justice for All: ok...bottom line...he was a watchman ONLY...NOT hired as a ARMED watchman....he was to ONLY report what he seen to the Police....NOT to talk...
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Re: Was Trayvon Martin A Drug Dealer?
YOu would have to be pretty darn stupid to confront at dark a stranger asking why there were in your neighborhood...unless you were carring a gun for protection that is....Originally Posted by Chuck Farley: Originally Posted by Justice for All: ok...bottom line...he was a watchman ONLY...NOT hired as a ARMED watchman....he was to ONLY report what he seen to the Police....NOT to talk to...or approach anyone....He did not do what he was told to do....he confronted the 17 year old...after he...
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Re: Was Trayvon Martin A Drug Dealer?
I don't think it is good enough. I think he is just like Sharpton and Jackson. He should be arrested for trying to incite violence. If that is such a law. If someone goes to that address and hurts someone or worse kills them then not only the murderer but Spike Lee should be charged with the crime. The race issue is being way over played on both sides. I don't know and don't doubt that Zimmerman used some racial profiling when he called the cops about Trayvon walking through the...
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Re: Hot Mic!
What about your, apparent, personal bias against Fox News, is that justified? Where do you get this information for obviously it isn't from factual information. Have you actually listened to Fox News? I'm not talking about Commentary such as Hannity but actually the stories that Fox presents? The fact hat they usually always present a liberal vs conservative viewpoint and a representative from both sides on most stories? Regarding the Travon Martin Story they presented advocates for both...
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Re: Hot Mic!
Again, as a separate issue and point. For the liberal minded folks out there, the rational ones who I know have very good reasons you believe as you do and are also patriotic Americans who care for our country. Does it not give you some pause or concern when you find that only one media outlet, Fox News, is willing to investigate and expresses concern about this incident with the "Hot Mic"? Do you honestly believe that this is a political story or should there be questions ask about exactly...
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Re: Was Trayvon Martin A Drug Dealer?
Zimmerman wasn't the one screaming on 911 call....so say the experts. http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_n...ermans-2-experts-say
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Re: ABC News doctors Zimmerman video
There's always the possibility that they were both wrong. Martin was up to no good AND Zimmerman was too aggressive. Since I don't believe there is a conspiracy, it looks to me like the police have evidence that tells them Zimmerman's actions were within the limits of self defense. Neighborhood watch is a good thing when it consists of just that...watching. The idea is to be observant and watch out for your neighbor and call the police to handle things. When it turns into armed patrol, it...
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Re: ABC News doctors Zimmerman video
It gets stranger and stranger. Why was anyone yelling for help if neither martin or zimmerman had any indications of a physical altercation? If it was martin yelling, had zimmerman just stood there with a gun and let martin yell and yell, having to know full well he'd be drawing attention, and then just shot him? If it was zimmerman yelling the same thing applies. Was he just standing there yelling and risking drawing a crowd or alerting witnesses if his intention was just to shoot martin?
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Re: Updates in the Trayvon Martin Case Suggest Martin was the Aggressor
NBC told the Washington Post that it has launched an internal investigation of the "Today" show's editorial process after its morning show aired an edited conversation between George Zimmerman and a 911 dispatcher recorded moments before the shooting. The investigation came after Fox News and others pointed out that the network spliced two parts of the call together, making it appear as if Zimmerman had said, "This guy looks like he's up to no good. He looks black." In reality, Zimmerman was...
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Re: Updates in the Trayvon Martin Case Suggest Martin was the Aggressor
There apparently is no witness to this killing as far as I know. All we do know is that Zimmerman was a gung ho wanna be cop with a gun, with a long association with the police department according to call logs, and the black kid had a cellphone and box of skittles. If Zimmerman had got his *ss in his vehicle and left when the 911 operator told him too, the kid would still be alive. He apparently stalked the kid after they told him to disengage. Even if the kid did turn around and try to...
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Re: SANTORIDICULOUS!! SANTORINSANITY!!SANTORIDIOCY!!
Oh yes, uh huh, fox lies. Sure. I notice none of you have touched this one: NBC told this blog today that it would investigate its handling of a piece on the “Today” show that ham-handedly abridged the conversation between George Zimmerman and a dispatcher in the moments before the death of Trayvon Martin. A statement from NBC: Great news right there. As exposed by Fox News and media watchdog site NewsBusters , the “Today” segment took this approach to a key part of the dispatcher call:...
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Re: Was Trayvon Martin A Drug Dealer?
You walk to the store from your relatives place inside the neighborhood, which you have every right to do. As you are walking back to your relatives' residence, a place you have every right to be, some nosy busybody stops you and starts asking you all sorts of prying question. Maybe he thinks he has a right to do that, but you are under no obligation to allow him to stop you, question you, hold you until police get there, or whatever Zimmerman was proposing to do . You object strenuously.
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Re: Updates in the Trayvon Martin Case Suggest Martin was the Aggressor
You walk to the store from your relatives place inside the neighborhood, which you have every right to do. As you are walking back to your relatives' residence, a place you have every right to be, some nosy busybody stops you and starts asking you all sorts of prying question. Maybe he thinks he has a right to do that, but you are under no obligation to allow him to stop you, question you, hold you until police get there, or whatever Zimmerman was proposing to do. You object strenuously. You...
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Re: Updates in the Trayvon Martin Case Suggest Martin was the Aggressor
IF Zimmerman had been BLACK..and Martin had been WHITE...would we have even HEARD about this incident?
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Re: Updates in the Trayvon Martin Case Suggest Martin was the Aggressor
Originally Posted by dogsoldier0513: IF Zimmerman had been BLACK..and Martin had been WHITE...would we have even HEARD about this incident? No...and if Odummer would have stayed out of it we would not have heard as much either. I see where his Mom/lawyer I guess have applied for a trademark relating to this incident about the name. I will have to find the link again. http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/trayvon-martin-f