11 jobs where an honest day’s work will leave you in poverty

Oh, I already know one of you clueless righties is gonna pipe up and say, "These low-paying jobs aren't meant to be permanent jobs. Just get more education/skills and move into a better-paying one." But that is the point: We're in an economy where people CAN'T MOVE OUT OF THESE JOBS BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING TO MOVE UP TO!!! No matter how much more training/education one acquires, more higher-paying jobs aren't gonna just - poof! - be available; globalization and technology have ensured they've gone bye-bye forever. Things have changed; we Progressives are just waiting on y'all to wake up and understand this reality.

But all it takes is motivation, right?   

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Kevin O’Leary’s outlook on a report about "staggering" economic inequality is awfully sunny.

On Monday’s "The Lang and O’Leary Exchange," the co-host said it was “fantastic” that a recently released Oxfam report states the world’s 85 richest people hold the same amount of wealth as the poorest half of the planet’s population.

“This is a great thing because it inspires everybody, gets them motivation to look up to the one per cent and say, ‘I want to become one of those people, I’m going to fight hard to get up to the top,’” he said. “This is fantastic news and of course I’m going to applaud it. What can be wrong with this?”

"These low-paying jobs aren't meant to be permanent jobs. Just get more education/skills and move into a better-paying one."

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I know doing that goes against a lefties sensibilities. Why should they improve themselves when uncle sam will take care of them and get them big bucks for sacking hamburgers and making change, or just sitting around on their ***? Guess what, getting an education and learning skills does work. Except for, as you posted,

  We're in an economy (dem economy) where people CAN'T MOVE OUT OF THESE JOBS BECAUSE THERE'S NOTHING TO MOVE UP TO!!!

So of course the demmie solution is to make "entry level jobs", considered by some as a critical step jnto employment, pay more than the job is worth. Weren't the dems  supposed to "fix" the economy? Yep, curse the darkness rather than lighting a candle. Typical clueless dem thinking.

That's undoubtedly the most poorly written article I've seen in recent history.  There's little truth in what's been said on specific professions.  And the hourly wages are far from hitting the mark.

It was a waste of my time to read it.

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No, not a "dem" economy.  The Great Recession happened as a direct result of Bush's policies and the unconscionable actions of his supporters - i.e., the two wars he started and (we) couldn't pay for, and and the greedy boys on Wall Street and their subprime mortgages.  President Obama has done all he can do to pull us out of this mess, but it'll take decades to correct the damage.  Besides, conservatives REFUSE to work with him on ANY policy, no matter how much sense it makes, because they still resent the fact that he's president.

`Minimum wage workers represent 4.7 percent of the work force, including a quarter of whom are teenagers still living with their parents.  Want a better paying job, develop skills that will get you the job,  And, vote out the Democrats who are holding eh economy down.

you'll never get a regressive to understand, a decent wage for a days work will take more people off the 'government teat'. it's hell when wal-mart has a food drive for their employees.

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Too, many of those min wage job holders are seniors who draw SS and go back to work to either supplement their checks OR have something to do with their time.

right, because buying their meds and eating cat food is the best choice!

do these regressives actually believe this BS?

dire thinks a living wage is 7.25/hr. right dire ole boy?

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Introducing a new expensive program, raising taxes, and writing thousands of pages of new regulations is hardly a method of encouraging a recovery.  The House passed several jobs bill which languished and died as Reid refused to bring them to the floor of the Senate for debate and vote.  Nearly every action done by this administration is contra to what brought economies out of recessions before. 

Dire,A living wage for two adults one child family in Lauderdale County is $16.25 per hr. That wage in this county is installation maintenance and repair, community and social services or health practitioner and tech.

Tell me genius boy how many families here in this county of two adults and a child making your prescribed starvation wage will be able to move into one of these pitiful paying jobs?   

Your idea is for the parents to work at walmart and the child stays home-a-lone.

8+8= 16.

Unbelievably there are people like you among us.

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bahahahahaha! you just, by chance, use the brand new talking point, by the republicans! hhahahahaha

there are no "jobs bills"... the regressive response to being called out on NOT passing any jobs bills was to call EVERY bill they passed a 'jobs bill'.. abortion jobs bill, repeal obamacare vote jobs bill, ... you get the idea. there are ZERO jobs bills waiting for the senate. ZERO.

Why not just set the minimum wage at $50 an hour then everyone will be rich?

Funny a friends kid just graduated from college with a engineering degree and had 3 offers and ended up making almost 6 figures the first year.   If you drop out of school, barely have passing grades when get out of high school, get a useless degree in college or fail to learn a viable trade i.e. a electrician, plumber etc your job prospects will be slim to none and will earn about minimum wage.

As to those supposedly non-existent jobs bills passed by the House and stuck in the Senate.

http://kelly.house.gov/house-p...aiting-action-senate

http://energycommerce.house.go...gn-direct-investment

http://majorityleader.gov/JobsTracker/

Meanwhile, in a world where the OP...and the other "LibTard" responders  DO NOT LIVE...

Since 2009, the Fair Labor Standards Acthas dictated that the federal minimum wage is $7.25 an hour. Some people think that’s too low; others think it’s too high. But it turns out that, in 35 states, it’s a better deal not to work—and instead, to take advantage of federal welfare programs—than to take a minimum-wage job. That’s the takeaway from a new study published by Michael Tanner and Charles Hughes of the Cato Institute.

“The current welfare system provides such a high level of benefits that it acts as a disincentive for work,” Tanner and Hughes write in their new paper. “Welfare currently pays more than a minimum-wage job in 35 states, even after accounting for the Earned Income Tax Credit,” which offers extra subsidies to low-income workers who take work. “In 13 states [welfare] pays more than $15 per hour.”

The welfare system, at its best, is a system that gives people a way to live when they can’t find work for themselves, when they’re down on their luck. At its worst, the welfare system rewards people for not working, and incentivizes people to develop habits that make it harder for them to find work in the future, miring them in permanent poverty.

 http://www.forbes.com/sites/th...e-work-in-35-states/

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bahahahahaha!

did you even read any of those bills... about two thirds reduce some regulation, approve the keystone pipeline, then about a third 'repeal obamacare'... and they are all called 'jobs bills'.

thanks for proving my statement.

keystone would provide jobs. 

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Proof Crash did not examine the posted links. None concerned Obamacare repeal.  Yes, repealing regulations can help make jobs.  As, will building the Keystone pipeline.  Forcing the oil to be transported is a payoff to Warren Buffet's investment in such -- pure crony capitalism.. Plus, of course, using rail is much less safe, as we've recently seen.  Pipelines can be routed away from major population concentrations -- not the same for rail. 

Reid refuses to bring any to the floor of the Senate -- fears he can't control the Democrats who might vote for the bills. 

dire, here are a few of your "JOBS BILLS". i listed them by number, so you couldn't argue the facts. have fun defending this bull****!

HR 872 - reduces regulation on pesticide use near navigable waters .
H.R. 2018 - allows states to set their own water quality standards .
HR 1315 - authorizes the chairperson of the  financial stability oversight council to issue a stay of, or set aside, any regulation issued by the consumer financial protection bureau (CFPB) upon the affirmative vote of the majority. It currently requires 2/3 affirmative vote. (more jobs for lawyers?)
HR2681 - nullifies existing clean air standards for cement plants.
HR1633 - prevents the EPA from making new rules on farm dust, even though the EPA has stated they have no plans to do so. (where are the jobs here?)
HR2087 - Instructs the Secretary of the Interior to remove all deed restrictions, including easements and covenants, described in a specified quitclaim deed from the United States to Accomack County, Virginia, relating to a parcel of land consisting of approximately 31.6 acres.
(BIG JOB CREATOR< THERE!!!)
HR1837 - repeals the San Joaquin River Restoration Settlement Act, and makes big changes in the implementation of the Endangered Species Act, rerouting a greater share of California’s water to agricultural users in the San Joaquin Valley. (more farming water, less drinking, fishing, who needs clean water... lots of jobs created !)
H.R. 3012 - amends the Immigration and Nationality Act to eliminate the per-country numerical limitation for employment-based immigrants, to increase the per-country numerical limitation for family-sponsored immigrants. (bring in more immigrants! republican jobs bill is to bring in more immigrants. rt. wingnut hypocrisy at its finest.)

Crash just proved my point that none of the bills concerned revocation of Obamacare.  Again, why won't Reid bring these to the floor of the Senate for debate. 

Once again, minimum wage is a starter wage. Sixteen year olds just starting out aren't worth much more than that. Unemployment among the young is extremely high, partially as a result of the economy and partially because they're priced out of the market.

why does someone have to show you what's in your own links... nice try at showing 'jobs bills'... i'll just let my post stand for itself. several of these bills have 'riders' that would 'repeal' or 'defund'  the AHA. poor dire, he doesn't even know what's in his own links.... btw, i left you a long list of descriptions... right up there... i notice you just ignored them... nice job.

A CEO has a stock option as part of his package.  He closes a plant, this causes expenses to go down which causes Wall Street to cause the value of stock to go up which causes the CEO to exercise his stock options and gives him a pay increase  (sometimes in the millions).  This is one reason for unemployment to be so high.  

bosses often raise the wages of workers hovering right above the new minimum.

the challenge is "often", many above min. wage do not get a raise thus putting them closer

to poverty line. Ask people making $11 -$20 and hour if last time min. wage went up if they got a

raise. the other challenge is hospitality jobs etc. We are loosing factory jobs etc. and the "service

industry" industry is our largest segment of job. next is govt. employees which most often get more vacation, holidays and sick days than the private sector. the challenge is bigger than raising min. wage. Raising min. wage is attacking the symptom not the problem.

No, you left a brief description of a few, with prejudice.  For instance, for decades, the US government encouraged farmers to settle in the San Joaquin valley, which became the most productive acreage in the nation.  Environmentalists identified a small fish (smelt, I believe) they claim was endangered by use of the water for irrigation.  (Naturalists, in the area, believe the introduction of bass, which eat the smelt, for sport fishing is the real reason for the smelt's decline).  Now, thousands of acres are dry and dusty, with farmers bankrupt and towns in decline because of the ruin of the farms. 

The story is much more complicated than Crash states.  One must review the bills individually.  Once again, why won't Reid allow their introduction to the floor of the Senate and honest debate. 

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Good grief.

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Such a closure would necessitate approval of the board of directors.  If, the plant is producing a profit, doubtful they would approve closure.  If the plant is losing money, better to close it and ensure the rest of the company survives. 

LOL. Huh?

closing a PRODUCTIVE plant does not increase the value of a company's stock.  

On the other hand, why should a business's keep a plant open that is no longer needed?

I’m all for the government should doing something about the low pay of these people right away.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/...aders-130000752.html

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Oh those poor poor darlings! Practicing 6 hours a week!!!!! How could you post such horror?? Is it true that when interviewed one of the ladies said she thought they should be paid as much as a "brain scientist" or "rocket surgeon"?

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The story is much more complicated than you posted as well.

The entire state of California is drying up. Global warming, whatever the cause (so as not to argue that issue here), is the cause. The rivers that flow into San Fransisco bay cannot support at this time, the agricultural as well as the industrial needs , and still fulfill the needs for potable water in the cities.

The aging levies that channel the San Joaquin river and the rest, are either failing are are dangerously close to having a catastrophic failure,and the marshlands that nature intended to act as a sponge to absorb and clean the rivers is collapsing. The entire eco-system is at risk and you and some dingbat senator who has some farm lobbyist  money in his pocket is blaming all this on some fish ? 

The governor has decided that people should have drinking water as a priority of irrigation needs .   I'm sure the CEO of Nestea (who has stated that drinking water should not be a right in America or the world, as his company wishes to control all drinking water for profit) would not agree with the Gov., but I happen to do so.

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I don't know, and am not inclined to read up on this particular case, but in general, it is not uncommon for a plant, or business of some kind, that has public stock, to have a very profitable plant , but the property values , for whatever reason, have increased to the point that the property/equipment , is more valuable than the stock it would take to buy it.

That became the case when I worked at a large commercial bank. They sold all their buildings , and rented them back so that the business , itself , was all that the bank had.

This was at a time when corporate raiders, (you know, like Mitt Romney) , were buying up a business's stock until they had controlling interest. Then they would raid the pension plan, and sell the assets off at a tremendous profit, and end the business, and who gives a damm about what the business produced, or how many people it employed, or what happened to those people, just so the raiders got their billions.

While selling your assets was financially a stupid move, it was a necessary one for the bank to prevent that sort of thing.

Said all that to make the point that selling a profitable plant or something, can be a necessary, if not a good thing to do .

Sometimes , it ain't all about the profit, it's about playing the CYA game.

A major reason I dislike arguing with progressives about business on this forum is their lack of knowledge or a distorted view.

Jank and jtd appear to get most of their info from the New Republic and Mother Jones.  Seeweed misunderstands much of what he states (Mitt Romney was not a raider, he probably saved more jobs, they he had to cut).

Crash seems to get his info from Scrooge McDuck comics and pullitouthisdufflebag.  Squirrelly Dawg, lord knows?

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No, that is exactly what Mitt Romney did.

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poor poor dire... i got my information, about your 'jobs bills'... from the links you provided.

why do you always question your own material? i merely read your articles. i investigate the links provided in the articles, i tell you what they actually say. and then you proceed to discredit your own links. i find it quite entertaining.

Crash, Your first response stated the bills involved revoking Obamacare -- none did.  I took the one concerning the San Joaquin valley and showed you were in error about that, as well! Two examples of error are enough for me to conclude you didn't understand.  To be fair, seeweed also missed the San Joaquin problem, as well. 

The San Joaquin valley is a prime example of why conservatives dislike large federal projects.  Settling the valley with refugees from the dust bowl was a major project for FDR during the depression.  Come WWII, the government expanded the project to feed a massive army and several other nations, as well. 

With a simple EPA decree, farms run for two and three generations became worthless.  Communities that grew up around the farms became ghost towns.  Its not the only time government decrees destroyed communities by decree.  The lumber mills of the northwest and their supporting communities were destroyed because of misinformation about the Spotted Owl that supposedly could only nest in deep woods -- the lack of which was causing their demise.  Turns out that was wrong.  The reason the owl was becoming scarce was the migration of larger owl species into their habitat.  Now, the government pays to kill the larger owls.