Originally Posted by Stanky:
Originally Posted by Wild_Irish_Prose:
How was the gun in the car if Parker was "in a campus building with a concealed handgun?" How does that work, exactly?
This is not supported by the facts. According to a study of 62 mass shootings over 30 years conducted by Mother Jones, “not a single case includes evidence that the killer chose to target a place because it banned guns.” Many of those mass shootings took place in areas were guns where permitted, but not a single one was stopped by armed civilians.
Parker’s interview revealed the practical difficulties of armed civilians trying to stop a mass shooting. By the time he became aware of the shooting, a SWAT team had already responded. He was concerned that police would view him as a “bad guy” and target him, so he quickly retreated into the classroom.
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I might note that Parker sought a classroom to hunker down in after the shooting started, he wasn't in class. He based his decision on not intervening because of the distance and time to get there along with the fear of being collateral damage by those the left allows to be armed.
Despite the protestations of gun rights advocates, Umpqua Community College is not actually a "gun-free zone."In 2012, the Oregon State Board of Higher Education unanimously voted to ban guns inside university buildings, but not on campus grounds overall. While UCC is not dictated by the SBHE, its policy on weapons is reportedly comparable.
http://mic.com/articles/126203...-stop-mass-shootings
The poor folks in class with the killer were in a Gun Free free fire zone.
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Let's say we arm all teachers (whether they agree to it or not) and, for example, at a high school one day the regular armed teacher is out and there's an unarmed substitute, and that classroom is where a shooting starts that day. By the time the armed teacher next door figures out what's going on, it's too late: people are dead.
So..., again, either we arm EVERYONE, EVERYWHERE and at ALL TIMES (and that includes preschoolers and middle schoolers - you know, in case the teacher has to step out to go to the bathroom) in order to prevent ALL SHOOTINGS (from killing more than one or two...or five or ten), or we pass common sense gun legislation.
But I do realize nothing's going to happen after this; nothing will change. If prayer worked, it would work (it obviously doesn't because these massacres keep happening); if "good guys with guns stop bad guys with guns" worked, it would work (it obviously doesn't, as the vet points out). So, the right to own guns, no questions asked, is more important than children's lives. I get it. We all get it.
(Incidentally, there were plenty of "good guys with guns" around when your Reagan god got shot. He still got shot, along with several others, including Jim Brady, of course, who went on to become an ardent supporter of gun control.)