Should we be celebrating Helen Keller. She is on the Alabama state quarter and she is a known SOCIALIST. Whats up with that?
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quote:Originally posted by Yo Brotha from anotha Motha:
DL, would you care that one of the liberal democrats was a former member of the KKK?
quote:Originally posted by David L.:
I have to confess that I don't know a lot about Socialism!
quote:Originally posted by just saying:
I have mixed feelings about this. According to the back of the Alabama state quarter, which has the banner “Spirit of Courage”, it’s not supporting her political views. Everyone has his or her own political views. What it seems the state quarter is trying to depict is her overwhelming difficulties she surpassed. I see the quarter as supporting her courage and nothing else. Having a personal family member who works for the Alabama Institute for the Deaf and Blind, I’ve seen first hand the courage that it takes for someone with such multiple disabilities to over come. Socialism and her ACLU founding principles aside, she was a remarkable woman.
quote:Everyone has his or her own political views.
quote:Originally posted by David L.:
I have to confess that I don't know a lot about Socialism!
quote:Think about that before you attack ME for saying it. Government OF THE PEOPLE, BY the People and FOR the people is socialism.
quote:Originally posted by Mott The Hoople:quote:Everyone has his or her own political views.
I've heard Saddam Hussein had some good points.
quote:Originally posted by NashBama:quote:Think about that before you attack ME for saying it. Government OF THE PEOPLE, BY the People and FOR the people is socialism.
It's clear you don't understand exactly what socialism is. From the American Heritage New Dictionary of Cultural Literacy:
"An economic system in which the production and distribution of goods are controlled substantially by the government rather than by private enterprise, and in which cooperation rather than competition guides economic activity. There are many varieties of socialism. Some socialists tolerate capitalism, as long as the government maintains the dominant influence over the economy; others insist on an abolition of private enterprise. All communists are socialists, but not all socialists are communists."
Socialism is not a good thing. A socialist society means the people have given up or lost individual freedoms. Their way of life is controlled by their government.
A government of the people, by the people, and for the people means that the people control the government. In a socialist society the government controls the people. If you're such a fan of socialism, I'm sure you'll enjoy living in China or North Korea. They are still holding on to the socialist ideals.
I don't agree with Helen Keller's politics, but every historical figure has a dark side. It's not her ideas that we acknowledge, it's her ability to overcome adversity and become successful.
quote:Originally posted by tdreader:quote:Originally posted by smurph:
to bad tdreader you do not appreciate the fact the internet has opened so many doors to KNOWLEDGE. Granted there is a lot of pure bunk out there,but so is there in the local library shelves. One has to use some COMMON SENSE and check the sources of any article read from anywhere.
Thank you for agreeing with me. That is exactly what I was implying. If common sense had been used there would never have been a Hellen Keller smear topic started.
Perhaps the irony of a celebrated American icon having a different opinion of the ideal society than mainstream America would have made an interesting discussion.
But, for God's sake, was someone's advances toward an elderly blind deaf woman rejected? If this discussion had been signed into Hellen Keller's palm, it would have seared her flesh.
I do not understand how this blind deaf woman, in her grave for so many years, could present such a threat to our American way of life simply because of her differing opinion. Which, by the way, has been proven faulty.
quote:The essential problem with the dictionary definition of Socialism is the fact that such a system HAS NEVER EXISTED.
quote:Government of the people BY THE PEOPLE IS SOCIALISM.
quote:Please tell me we are not getting a comparison between Helen Keller and Saddam here.
quote:Originally posted by meanasasnake:quote:Originally posted by Mott The Hoople:quote:Everyone has his or her own political views.
I've heard Saddam Hussein had some good points.
Please tell me we are not getting a comparison between Helen Keller and Saddam here.
quote:Originally posted by meanasasnake:
This is funny. Helen Keller is now an enemy of the state. Her political views "overshadow" her lifes work for the deaf and blind. You know you are in the minority in this - like many other things.
quote:Originally posted by Yo Brotha from anotha Motha:
I will bet you my life that you had know idea she was a Socialist before you read this thread.
quote:Originally posted by Yo Brotha from anotha Motha:quote:Originally posted by meanasasnake:
This is funny. Helen Keller is now an enemy of the state. Her political views "overshadow" her lifes work for the deaf and blind. You know you are in the minority in this - like many other things.
I will bet you my life that you had know idea she was a Socialist before you read this thread. If it's not such a big deal then why is it that 90% of people don't know it? Why do they fail to teach about the socialist part of her life when teaching our children in school?
What if George Washington had been a socialist?
Admit it, you just received an education free of charge and you are in shock and don't know how to respond. Thats ok, just read more on the subject before you begin ranting.
quote:Better be glad you did not make that bet - I was aware of Helen Kellers political affiliations. I just dont give a ****. She had every right to her political philosophy - just as you do. It in no way changes her contribution to the deaf and blind in our country. Wonder why the only thing we hear of is this contribution and not the politics? Because its a footnote, not really very relevant, and those who are obsessed with it HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO WORRY ABOUT. Get a job, go work with the deaf and blind, iron clothes, but for Gods sake, stop digging up 50yr old trivia looking for an enemy of the state.
quote:Originally posted by Yo Brotha from anotha Motha:quote:Better be glad you did not make that bet - I was aware of Helen Kellers political affiliations. I just dont give a ****. She had every right to her political philosophy - just as you do. It in no way changes her contribution to the deaf and blind in our country. Wonder why the only thing we hear of is this contribution and not the politics? Because its a footnote, not really very relevant, and those who are obsessed with it HAVE NOTHING BETTER TO WORRY ABOUT. Get a job, go work with the deaf and blind, iron clothes, but for Gods sake, stop digging up 50yr old trivia looking for an enemy of the state.
What has you so hot under the collar? The original post was a little known fact and then a simple question for discussion. My opinion is that she should not be on any United States Currency. Sure celebrate with a festival in Tuscumbia but don't put her image on US currency. To many have fought and died to protect us from being a socialist government.
Is that honor?
I do work with deaf, blind, sick, and elderly.
What do you do?