why should america vote for hillary?
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quote:Originally posted by Liberal Wisenheimer:
Because she's a very smart lady who had a good deal of influence during her husband's administrations. The best eight years in our country's history. It would be nice to have a smart president again.
quote:Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
'Lady' is NOT a term I would use to decribe 'Hitlery'. 'The best eight years in our country's history'? For WHOM? We haven't had a good '8 years' since WWII and the years immediately following it....
quote:Originally posted by NashBama:
Americans with common sense won't vote for her. She doesn't stand a chance.
quote:I don't think anyone has anything to worry about, the ONLY good thing she is campaigning about that would help most Americans is Medical Insurance... and any of them could (and I can see that happening) do the same thing.
Hillary, isn't going to even get in the run-offs... just my opinion!! Whatever THAT is worth in Politics, LOL!!!
quote:Originally posted by NashBama:quote:I don't think anyone has anything to worry about, the ONLY good thing she is campaigning about that would help most Americans is Medical Insurance... and any of them could (and I can see that happening) do the same thing.
Hillary, isn't going to even get in the run-offs... just my opinion!! Whatever THAT is worth in Politics, LOL!!!
I don't see how giving the government something new to control, a new way to interfere in our personal lives, a new reason to raise taxes, and a new way to waste it can be considered a good thing. Socialize health care and that's what you'll have. If you want less government, don't vote for Hillary.
Gratuitous insult, the first weapon of the RADICALquote:Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
'Lady' is NOT a term I would use to decribe 'Hitlery'. 'The best eight years in our country's history'? For WHOM? We haven't had a good '8 years' since WWII and the years immediately following it....
GO AWAY SONNY YOU BOTHER ME.quote:Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
'Hitlery' totally DESPISES our country's military, and has said so publically. THAT is MORE THAN ENOUGH reason for me to NEVER vote for her....unless she runs for 'Chief Coal Shoveler' in Hell....
quote:I would much rather have Governmental Control over medical insurances than to have kids, grandkids, friends, family members getting killed or maimed in a place that the GOVERNMENT is CONTROLLING us being there, when the vast majority doesn't want to...
Dang Nash... with you one is danged if they do, danged if they don't... Agree with you and you argue, disagree with you and you argue...
Now THAT I do NOT understand
Stick to it and welcome to the fray.quote:Originally posted by Liberal Wisenheimer:
Because she's a very smart lady who had a good deal of influence during her husband's administrations. The best eight years in our country's history. It would be nice to have a smart president again.
quote:Originally posted by NashBama:quote:I would much rather have Governmental Control over medical insurances than to have kids, grandkids, friends, family members getting killed or maimed in a place that the GOVERNMENT is CONTROLLING us being there, when the vast majority doesn't want to...
Dang Nash... with you one is danged if they do, danged if they don't... Agree with you and you argue, disagree with you and you argue...
Now THAT I do NOT understand
I read this three times and I still can't figure it out. Sorry Kindred, no idea what you're talking about here.
quote:Originally posted by EdEKit:Stick to it and welcome to the fray.quote:Originally posted by Liberal Wisenheimer:
Because she's a very smart lady who had a good deal of influence during her husband's administrations. The best eight years in our country's history. It would be nice to have a smart president again.
She is a very smart lady. The only downside is "She is a woman." I would love to see her in office. I would Love to see Carol Mosley Braun in office. I THINK THE ELECTORATE would benefit from her being in office. Nancy Pelosi is one of the keys. Good performance, from Pelosi could eliminate the raw prejudice against women leaders. I don't know if one year is enough time. I don't know if Pelosi can do it unless we also see some outstanding work from Others.
The total number of women in State Legislative leadership positions is 62. 47 of them are Democrats. 12 are Republicans. 3 represent third parties. The total number of
democrat Women in State Legislatures is 1,183. The total of Republicans 536. Third Parties are represented by 4 women. Nebraska has a Non Partisan Legislature and 9 women are in it.
9 Women Are governors, three are Republicans, 6 Democrats. 11 Women are Lieutenant Governors. 8 Democrats and 3 Republicans.
4 Women are Attorney Generals. All Democrats.
12 Women are Secretary of State, 7 D, 5 R.
Ten states have Women Treasurers, 6 D, 4 R
None of those numbers reaches anywhere near a majority of office holders.
When you start looking at the only office in the nation that requires a majority of ALL Americans, those numbers can be both encouraging and discouraging.
If you are a Republican Woman looking for political power, you're in the wrong party. If you are a Republican woman looking to have Women representing you, it is time to switch to the Democratic party.
If You are a Male Chauvinist Pig, you might be a Republican.
quote:Originally posted by interventor:
Pelosi was rather stumble footed in leading the House, but it may be just her "newness" to leadership positions. But, to claim to bring a peace proposal to Syria from Israel and, then, be denied by Olmert, is not real bright.
Please specify the common sense issues that Hillary Clinton is off the mark on?quote:Originally posted by NashBama:
Americans with common sense won't vote for her. She doesn't stand a chance.
What Runoffs?quote:Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:quote:Originally posted by NashBama:
Americans with common sense won't vote for her. She doesn't stand a chance.
I don't think anyone has anything to worry about, the ONLY good thing she is campaigning about that would help most Americans is Medical Insurance... and any of them could (and I can see that happening) do the same thing.
Hillary, isn't going to even get in the run-offs... just my opinion!! Whatever THAT is worth in Politics, LOL!!!
I would like to know where the spin on the Peace proposal Pelosi Carried From Israel to Syria was a failure.quote:Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:quote:Originally posted by interventor:
Pelosi was rather stumble footed in leading the House, but it may be just her "newness" to leadership positions. But, to claim to bring a peace proposal to Syria from Israel and, then, be denied by Olmert, is not real bright.
I actually like Pelosi, but Syria and Peace doesn't belong in the SAME sentence!!!! Syria is like what we conceive typical terrorism, they feel like they are born to war. Sad... but true!!!
I have the problem, and yes, it is a problem, of not KNOWING which Middle East persons are the good guys, and which are the bad guys... I am not meaning that in a racist way, but it is just the truth in my own mind.
Ya see... if you read all about the PILOTS of 9/11, you will find that ALL their neighbors, and working buddies thought they were very nice, very polite, very gentlemenly, very much FAMILY MEN, very religious and very kind!!!! Everyone that crossed their paths were in shock for a very long time that these men could do what they did that day.... so hence is WHY my thoughts were born about the Middle Easterners.... if that makes sense....
quote:The only downside is "She is a woman."
quote:Originally posted by NashBama:
Americans with common sense won't vote for her. She doesn't stand a chance.
quote:Nash, that is a very small percentage. ;^)
If anyone wants to see us dig our hole any deeper, just vote Democrat or Republican.
Please consider a third party, maybe Libertarian.
interventor. I never said there was. Israel sent a proposal for TALKS. Olmert accepted the proposal, and is considering a response. That is how these things are done.quote:Originally posted by interventor:
Ed,
Per Olmert, there was no peace proposal from his government.
Official Libertarian Platform position on Immigration. http://www.lp.org/issues/platform_all.shtmlquote:Originally posted by NashBama:quote:Nash, that is a very small percentage. ;^)
If anyone wants to see us dig our hole any deeper, just vote Democrat or Republican.
Please consider a third party, maybe Libertarian.
You're right, so far from what I've read about Libertarian Party they make sense. I need to learn a little more about them first.
The first step:quote:Borders will be secure, with free entry to those who have demonstrated compliance with certain requirements. The terms and conditions of entry into the United States must be simple and clearly spelled out. Documenting the entry of individuals must be restricted to screening for criminal background and threats to public health and national security. It is the obligation of the prospective immigrant to demonstrate compliance with these requirements. Once effective immigration policies are in place, general amnesties will no longer be necessary.
quote:Ensure immigration requirements include only appropriate documentation, screening for criminal background and threats to public health and national security. Simplifying the immigration process and redeployment of surveillance technology to focus on the borders will encourage the use of regular and monitored entry points, thus preventing trespass and saving lives. End federal requirements that benefits and services be provided to those in the country illegally. Repeal all measures that punish employers for hiring undocumented workers. Repeal all immigration quotas.
quote:I may be off the mark here, but I think you have expressed adamant opposition to these two proposals for long term and immediate solutions to immigration control.
The link is to the Libertarian Party OFFICIAL PLATFORM.
quote:Originally posted by MarianLibrarian:
I wish Al Gore would run.
quote:Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:quote:Originally posted by MarianLibrarian:
I wish Al Gore would run.
Most definitely: FAR, FAR AWAY!!!!
quote:Originally posted by EdEKit:Please specify the common sense issues that Hillary Clinton is off the mark on?quote:Originally posted by NashBama:
Americans with common sense won't vote for her. She doesn't stand a chance.
Does she want to see you keep more of the money you earn? Yes, in fact, she wants to take the insurance premiums you pay away from the million dollar a year MBA's who make medical decisions, and put it into HEALTH services. (that's what national health insurance does.) That's just common sense, UNLESS you are a million a year HMO manager. She wants to take a portion of the money you make for the owner of your company, and put it into care and education for your children while you work to feed and clothe them.
That is just plain common sense.
She wants to take some of the value you produce at a job that was once held or developed by a now retired worker to assure that he has enough to eat, and wear, and a roof over his head that YOU could be proud of.
Common sense says that you should not spend your life making someone else prosperous, and die of starvation when he says, "What have you done for me lately?"
quote:You have pointed out my biggest problem with Mrs. Clinton, she wants to TAKE somebody elses money than give it to another person. I'm a hard working American who will probably never be millionare. A real American doesn't take what doesn't belong to them. The money I earn or the money the millionare makes doesn't belong to the government nor to another individual. It is my and their right to choose to do what we want with out money. Do we not live in a free Society? Taking money from me or anyone without giving me a direct choice, doesn't seem free or right to me. I donate what I can to charity. My life would be a lot easier if the government would TAKE a little less from me and other individuals.
quote:Originally posted by NashBama:quote:You have pointed out my biggest problem with Mrs. Clinton, she wants to TAKE somebody elses money than give it to another person. I'm a hard working American who will probably never be millionare. A real American doesn't take what doesn't belong to them. The money I earn or the money the millionare makes doesn't belong to the government nor to another individual. It is my and their right to choose to do what we want with out money. Do we not live in a free Society? Taking money from me or anyone without giving me a direct choice, doesn't seem free or right to me. I donate what I can to charity. My life would be a lot easier if the government would TAKE a little less from me and other individuals.
That is what you call common sense and that's exactly why Hillary will never be president. Americans do not want socialism.
quote:Originally posted by RollTide66:quote:Originally posted by EdEKit:Please specify the common sense issues that Hillary Clinton is off the mark on?quote:Originally posted by NashBama:
Americans with common sense won't vote for her. She doesn't stand a chance.
Does she want to see you keep more of the money you earn? Yes, in fact, she wants to take the insurance premiums you pay away from the million dollar a year MBA's who make medical decisions, and put it into HEALTH services. (that's what national health insurance does.) That's just common sense, UNLESS you are a million a year HMO manager. She wants to take a portion of the money you make for the owner of your company, and put it into care and education for your children while you work to feed and clothe them.
That is just plain common sense.
She wants to take some of the value you produce at a job that was once held or developed by a now retired worker to assure that he has enough to eat, and wear, and a roof over his head that YOU could be proud of.
Common sense says that you should not spend your life making someone else prosperous, and die of starvation when he says, "What have you done for me lately?"
You have pointed out my biggest problem with Mrs. Clinton, she wants to TAKE somebody elses money than give it to another person. I'm a hard working American who will probably never be millionare. A real American doesn't take what doesn't belong to them. The money I earn or the money the millionare makes doesn't belong to the government nor to another individual. It is my and their right to choose to do what we want with out money. Do we not live in a free Society? Taking money from me or anyone without giving me a direct choice, doesn't seem free or right to me. I donate what I can to charity. My life would be a lot easier if the government would TAKE a little less from me and other individuals.