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Daffy posted:

Can somebody tell me how Jesus came down from heaven to earth and was born an human. How did he enter Mary's body? Does anybody know.

It might help if you believe God created Adam a full grown
adult and Adam carried Eve as a rib. If that can be believed
then a human could be created in the womb of a mother
with no problem.
 
Adam and Jesus would have 23 chromosomes, God would
have taken Eve from Adam having 46 chromosomes.
The Father doesn't have a physical body, so no chromosomes.
 
Back to the power of God, people go wrong by trying to explain
the workings of God using human logic and basic physical laws of
nature, which were created by God and can be manipulated in
the same matter.

First of all, as I have said before, there is much that being human means we cannot understand or comprehend and much of has to do with "God" has to be taken on faith or by faith.  What follows is my own opinion/belief based upon what I've read in Scriptures.

Being human means we are two parts, on part flesh (the physical) which is created by the union of our fleshly parents (egg and sperm).  The second part is the inner soul/spirit which was created by God and is eternal in nature but is separate but supported by the body. 

God is Spirit, dwelling in the Spiritual realm which I subject neither mankind nor science can define, comprehend or understand.  Christ (Jesus) is essentially God (God's Spirit) inside the human/fleshly body form that came from Mary however the flesh was not created from human seed, from man's sperm but was miraculously created from the Holy Spirit (God the Holy Spirit) creating the child within Mary's egg and thus born from Mary and God in Human form .. Christ (Jesus) the Son of God.  Lastly God in the form of the Holy Spirit the form of God which convicts mankind of our sins and actually indwells mankind that is saved given as a gift of God as promised by Christ (John 14).

Christ (God in human flesh, Son of God) sinless in not inheriting the sin nature through mankind but perfection in the flesh whose purpose, directed by the Father (God) to die on the cross thus sacrificing His perfect Blood as a sacrifice for mankind's sins if man accepts this sacrifice.  God pre-determined long ago that only by blood is sins atoned for and only can the perfect blood of Christ can mankind's sins be removed without the need to continue to do so over and over.  So it is for this reason Christ came, to save sinners (not to judge) but will return again and the second time will come to judge.

Could anyone tell me that knows the method the Father wished
for mankind to procreate. He told them many things and one was
for them to populate the land he has given to the both of them,
but didn't express the plan he wanted this to be done.
They are in a part of Heaven, like maybe a suburb, with a tree
that God restricted entirely.
 
So Adam and Eve are immortal and leaves one to think maybe
Eve was to be the Mother of Jesus or maybe Jesus was never meant
for that, but was to welcome the people into Heaven at a certain
time in their life's. Because they sure weren't going to die and
God wasn't at all pleased with the two rewriting the script.
This resulting in Eve experiencing a high level of horny/
randiness and apparently didn't take much arm twisting for
Adam. If God had already told the couple how he wanted the
performance to be performed, and they hooked up the way
they did, then our salvation would not have been possible.
 
    

As I have said before, much of Christianity as well as with any religion must be taken on faith.  It is accepted that there are some things that are just not elaborated on, in scriptures, or that God's Spirit will impart knowledge about. 

Adam and Eve, nor would I say a vast number of their descendants, spent time writing things down for those to follow them.  I'm sure for a long time things were passed down verbally but even whenever the first scribes wrote down and recorded things for those that would come after they surely did so from what they had heard from persons who had heard the stories passed down from others, older than them.

Essentially there will always be questions that will, for some, have no adequate or acceptable answer and even many Christians will live accepting many things on faith alone without dogmatic answers.  Whether a Christian, Muslim, Buddhist or whatever religion there will always be certain answers to certain questions that humans cannot answer adequately and they are just accepted upon faith.

Would Christians as a whole, doubt or believe according to their
own opinions, that God has communicated to the human race
from the time of Adam/Eve to the present. Or after the ascension
of Jesus, he then shut the door behind him, left us to fill in the
blanks.? John said if all that Jesus said and did was written down
the world wouldn't be large enough to hold everything.
 
God also knows the danger of when we fill in the blanks.
It's not logical Jesus would deny the human race ninety percent
of pertinent information when he died still teaching in word and
example. True that it's spread over thousands of years but I
know there's far too much to be contained in the brevity of the
Bible. I'm not saying you should have more than the Bible, but
Paul did suggest such a thing. If Jesus told you something to
remember in the year AD 30, would it be less believable in the
year 2017..??
Kraven posted:
Would Christians as a whole, doubt or believe according to their
own opinions, that God has communicated to the human race
from the time of Adam/Eve to the present. Or after the ascension
of Jesus, he then shut the door behind him, left us to fill in the
blanks.? John said if all that Jesus said and did was written down
the world wouldn't be large enough to hold everything.
 
God also knows the danger of when we fill in the blanks.
It's not logical Jesus would deny the human race ninety percent
of pertinent information when he died still teaching in word and
example. True that it's spread over thousands of years but I
know there's far too much to be contained in the brevity of the
Bible. I'm not saying you should have more than the Bible, but
Paul did suggest such a thing. If Jesus told you something to
remember in the year AD 30, would it be less believable in the
year 2017..??

I surely don't purport to speak for God, nor could I if I wanted, but the way I look at it or envision it is that what awaits us, in the future life (after this physical one) is also something beyond our comprehension.  Could be it's far more simple or infinitely more complicated and involved.   Whatever it is I believe it to be a life of a Spiritual nature rather than a physical, fleshly, one.  Being human I don't know that we could tolerate living thousands of years or even ten's of thousands if that were possible.  We'd get tired of living.  Human Nature is to desire change (or so I believe) and after a certain time we, being human, tire of our current situation and desire change.   We, or most of us, tire of the car we drive or the house where we live and desire another, better, newer, one.  That doesn't apply to all but surely to a lot.   

I just don't think humanity has the where with all to envision or know what is ahead of us, after death.  Some believe that nothing awaits us, that after death all ceases, that this life experience was just a happenstance thing that just miraclously came about and is over when it's over.  I don't believe that, myself, but that's me.  I do very much believe that from a physical, fleshly, ,standpoint that things may cease and just black out, but I believe that we do have an inner soul/spirit that will survive us and will live on and is capable of living on in a dimension and realm that we have no way of envisioning at this point in our existence and life.   I just believe that our human minds are so limited, God knowing this, doesn't create a situation where we can know everything there is to know about everything.  I don't see God as a person or with limitations but as an all powerful, all knowing, power/energy existing in a form that we could never comprehend, one in a Spiritual realm/dimension much more expansive than our physical realm.  Just as comparing or contrasting thoughts to brain cells or matter.  One is physical where the other unlimited in nature and evaporative and unable to be defined and confined yet still just as valid and real.   

We may not understand how a human of normal mental and physical
capacities could exist for thousands of years in the same environment
while working to maintain their sanity. The OT has people living for five,
seven up to nine hundred years, if that's true they more than likely have
help from God.
 
As the meter runs out for our life on earth and all is said and done with
the necessary red tape, we find ourselves in Heaven, but now we have
a revised edition of body and intellect that's of the sanctified type.
 
Only God knows what it takes to live an everlasting life, if not, there would
be immortal souls trying to off themselves in a state of eternal happiness.
And just think, we still attempt to suggest we've learned so much about
everything to the point of thresholding the completion of knowledge.
 
To actually achieve that you will need the absolute sum of all our known
knowledge and multiply that by infinity.

 

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