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who do you believe?   back in the 1990s I received different emails about deep state, global government or what ever you would like to label it.   A lot of it appears to have come true.   

90 some % of congress gets reelected even tho their approval is in the teens.  We need to vote them all out.

the Latest is Mueller is looking into inauguration donations.  It is simple a witch hunt to get the outsider out.  In Missouri an outsider governor is under attack for what? An affair he had before he was elected.  Some 40% of America have had affairs,  divorce rate is at 50%  who can throw the first stone.

1130 posted:

who do you believe?   back in the 1990s I received different emails about deep state, global government or what ever you would like to label it.   A lot of it appears to have come true.   

90 some % of congress gets reelected even tho their approval is in the teens.  We need to vote them all out.

the Latest is Mueller is looking into inauguration donations.  It is simple a witch hunt to get the outsider out.  In Missouri an outsider governor is under attack for what? An affair he had before he was elected.  Some 40% of America have had affairs,  divorce rate is at 50%  who can throw the first stone.

Well, when you claim to be the 'Christian Party' and the 'Family Values Party', don't  you think you should at least show a good example instead of showing how to not act? That's some serious hypocrisy you've shared there.

Br’er Rabbit posted:

Well, when you claim to be the 'Christian Party' and the 'Family Values Party', don't  you think you should at least show a good example instead of showing how to not act? That's some serious hypocrisy you've shared there.

How to ACT..??

You liberals couldn't make up for the fake news and fake Dossier
if you had to, and you do but that ain't gonna happen.
Oh yeah, the people who shoot LEO's in the back or blindside
them, burn down or destroy business's, silly infantile marches
and blocking bridges by the dim witted BLM morons purchased
by the white slob slave owner Soros...
 
I don't actually hate to say it, but you people are too stupid to
see any of this.....

While, I do not believe in  global conspiracy composed of the Illuminati, the Rothschilds, or any other such group, I know there was such composed of the Soviets and their fellow travelers.  That is dead.  However, a deep state is self evident.  No great organization with a Dr. No central HQ, but a confluence of special interests and academics within and without government.  

As to Dr. John, which one of our lefties are you? 

Dr. John posted:

I'm not a leftist. I'm a centrist. I try to look at things logically and realize that even a stopped clock is right twice a day, even Henny Penny sometimes calls it, but usually most people see conspiracies where there are none.

astupid

The FBI planted a police spy within the Trump campaign.  That is a deep state action.  Bureaucracies have a history of stupidity. Just ask Franz Kafka, or anyone in a VA hospital waiting room.

Your comments betray your claim to be a moderate.  However, there is now hope for Democrats.  I see that scientists are now growing miniature Neanderthal brains -- just an implant away. 

direstraits posted:
Dr. John posted:

I'm not a leftist. I'm a centrist. I try to look at things logically and realize that even a stopped clock is right twice a day, even Henny Penny sometimes calls it, but usually most people see conspiracies where there are none.

astupid

The FBI planted a police spy within the Trump campaign.  That is a deep state action.  Bureaucracies have a history of stupidity. Just ask Franz Kafka, or anyone in a VA hospital waiting room.

Your comments betray your claim to be a moderate.  However, there is now hope for Democrats.  I see that scientists are now growing miniature Neanderthal brains -- just an implant away. 

While you support conspiracy theories and call Democrats stupid, you only serve to show your own ignorance and bias. Republicans will spout party lies, even when they know it's BS, all while blaming Democrats for Republican failures.

Speaking of Blaming Democrats for Republican Failures:

Anyone recall, Republicans (08 & 12) blaming Democrats for their Failed candidate’s Loss to Obama? You know, the one in which Republicans orchestrate a concocted Russian/Foreign Conspiracy story line?

 Or was that the one which Democrats Blamed Republicans for their Failed candidates loss to Trump?

 Here is some Minor Deep State Damage Control at work:

As I recall, Sept. 2016 Clintons Doctor said, She was in Excellent Health to be President of the United States….and if  that were the case, I would hate to have seen what Good Health  or Fair Health rating would look like. Something close to Death Bed one would suspect.

 

  You would have to be a total idiot to believe Hillary was in Excellent Health.

 Then, Democrat front-runner Hillary Clinton excels at lying and diverting people’s attention away from the truth — so much so, in fact, that she practically invented a new bobble-head move for this very purpose.

 Famous Head Bobble II back in June 2016 when ask about Warren as her Running Mate:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpphHCN5MAs

 “You guys have got to try the cold chai.” (Oh, that explains the head bobble, I should have known...Stupid me...)

 Over 1 ½ years later, the Dems, Friendly Big Media & Friends are still diverting people’s attention away from the Truth… No wonder, people know the Deep State is at work, Just like Hillary's Head Bobble move... it was the Cold Chai..

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I can only imagine, kinda like that I think I'll say it again, I can
only imagine how many millions of Obozo/Iranian's 150 billion
US kickback dollars the sot lost over that special night.
Then consider how high the pay to play stakes would go..?
 
And Trump's trying to stop the twelve million pamper hat
shiitees from moving in, then you could call this place New
London.
 
Helda might not be right that the fault of her loss was because
of the three wise men...someone should check with Russia.

It's been over 20 years since I voted for a Dem. for president. I'd say I've voted Republican in most races 90% of the time. But because I believed in them. Sometimes foolishly so.

So yes I'm a centrist. The FBI? That org. spies on all parties. So does the NSA. I'm sure they call it expedient. Still no Deep State as such. I'd call it ingrained preservation.

 

 

 

 

Kraven posted:
I can only imagine, kinda like that I think I'll say it again, I can
only imagine how many millions of Obozo/Iranian's 150 billion
US kickback dollars the sot lost over that special night.
Then consider how high the pay to play stakes would go..?
 
And Trump's trying to stop the twelve million pamper hat
shiitees from moving in, then you could call this place New
London.
 
Helda might not be right that the fault of her loss was because
of the three wise men...someone should check with Russia.

The Persians spent no new funds on infrastructure or the welfare of their people.  They did increase their War Department budget by 40 percent, plus increase contributions to Hezbo'Allah.  Guess where they got the money. At least, most of their new weapons are Russian crap. 

Dr. John posted:

It's been over 20 years since I voted for a Dem. for president. I'd say I've voted Republican in most races 90% of the time. But because I believed in them. Sometimes foolishly so.

So yes I'm a centrist. The FBI? That org. spies on all parties. So does the NSA. I'm sure they call it expedient. Still no Deep State as such. I'd call it ingrained preservation.

 

 

 

 

You've confirmed my response as the deep state swamp being a confluence of the like minded and entrenched bureaucrats.  The FBI needs someone of the stature of Elliot Ness or a younger J. Edgar Hoover (before he morphed into the entrenched bureaucrat).  Lacking that, I could only recommend sending in the Federal Marshals Service with written orders from the president as to what papers are to be immediately required. Any opposition should be met by immediate suspension and frog marched out of the HQ. 

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