Alabama vs Auburn

we're coming off a 5-7 year, with a coaching staff that has had the job for 2 months. compared to alabama going 12-2, being #1 for half the season, and a coach who is known for recruiting on his 3rd year of recruiting these kids. did you expect anything else? given the circumstances i , as an auburn fan, am very happy with our class. if we can land oku (who knows when he'll announce), i'll consider this recruiting year, after all that's gone down, a major success. chizik could have easily folded and just went after the scrubs but he took his chances with the reuben randle's and the tana patrick's. which is a lot more than xCTT was doing

according to scout, alabama signed 3 5 star players, auburn signed 2.

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Originally posted by adamryan1121:
did you expect anything else?

Nope....everything worked out about like I thought it would. I'm sure Cheesewiz, with that great coaching ability and the awesome talent they have on the plains, can improve their record. Heck, he might even get them too 6 or 7 wins, that should make Auburn fans ecstatic.

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Originally posted by midknightrider:

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Originally posted by adamryan1121:
did you expect anything else?

Nope....everything worked out about like I thought it would. I'm sure Cheesewiz, with that great coaching ability and the awesome talent they have on the plains, can improve their record. Heck, he might even get them too 6 or 7 wins, that should make Auburn fans ecstatic.

not to be rude, but why does it matter to you?

just wondering, but how many wins did alabama have in saban's first year?

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Originally posted by adamryan1121:

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Originally posted by midknightrider:

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Originally posted by adamryan1121:
did you expect anything else?

Nope....everything worked out about like I thought it would. I'm sure Cheesewiz, with that great coaching ability and the awesome talent they have on the plains, can improve their record. Heck, he might even get them too 6 or 7 wins, that should make Auburn fans ecstatic.

not to be rude, but why does it matter to you?

just wondering, but how many wins did alabama have in saban's first year?

Uh...because I hate to see Auburn fans unhappy ?

I'll answer your second question with a question...why does it matter to you?

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Originally posted by Rowdymale:
I wonder if old Rielly has read this yet....

Link

Oh, yay! a blog post.

Yeah Rowdy, I read it...and obviously this guy is an idiot loser who knows nothing about Auburn University... He wrote that from under Saban's desk because he couldnt get his mouth off of Saban's.... well, you get the point. Like I give a crap what this idiot says. He's completely in the dark on Auburn football and wrote a biased commentary to please saban and his loyal followers.... I'm sure youloved CNN's coverage on McCain and Palin during the election too didt you... LOL what a joke.

As to the topic starter..... So how many points did this recruiting class put on the board for next year's Iron Bowl?? or any game next year for that matter??? Since you say Auburn got "whipped", go ahead and tell me the score to next years game so I'll know if it's worth watching or not... LOL...hahahaha... I love it. Keep sipping the kool-aid sabanites.... I'm an on the field kind of guy, and since I don't know how good the offense for Auburn will be next year then all I can say is.... the sky is the limit in terms of potential for the existing talent on the Plains, and in terms of this class.

Both teams signed some good players it seems... Now we'll see how they do on the field with the other big boys in the SEC.

By the way... Do ya'll realize how idiotic ya'll sound comparing Auburn's class to those teams ya'll mentioned??? Auburn was 15th and 18th with 6 weeks of crootin from these coaches.... Where was UAB??? You're shuttin up about that stupid crap now??? Good idea... LOL

Well to me Auburn KNOWS they are beat. As long as Saban is at Bama it is history folks. Saban is a recruiter and very good at that. Chezik is learning but will get better. Compete with Saban. He NEVER will!

i sure hope Saban don't read blogs with posts about him in them.... he'd start developing a God complex....oh wait... too late for that.. hahaha

NEVER, is a strong word.... Saban has had several good recruiting classes and some very good seasons....but overall, his record is just that....good. he got 1 split/mythical national championship, failed miserably in the NFL, and now is 19-8 in his 1st 2 seasons at bama. He's never been undefeated and has lost to Auburn more than he's won. Also, Florida always "out-recruits" Auburn... Would you like to know what Meyer(and Tewbow's) record against Auburn is.... goose egg and 2. Auburn finished in the 18 spot on rivals... they typically are around the 12 to 15 spot overall average during the last 10 years.... would you like to guess who is the only team with an undefeated season over that span??? GREAT JOB!!! That would be Auburn...never won a Crootin NC, only once I can remember in the top5...yet the only undefeated SEC team in ten years. Just some things to maybe curb your overconfidence in Saban.
But he is a good coach and has good players, I expect Alabama to be a SEC West contender as long as he is there....(1-3 more seasons is my guess)...

IS IT AUGUST YET??? LOL

WAR EAGLE

Since scholarship limitations were created, Alabama has averaged a better recruiting class than Auburn, including the much lauded in-state recruits (since when did in-state recruits become the prized possession?). During this time, Auburn has won more games than Alabama. They are also 3rd in the state in winning percentage (behind Auburn & Troy)

So keep enjoying your great recruiting classes (it was Shula's recruits that made the huge difference last year) and we will do the same, and, unless the rules have changed, the games will be decided on the field (though, from the looks of it, only recruiting rankings matter).

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Originally posted by hayssco:

(it was Shula's recruits that made the huge difference last year)

That is true to a point but who recruited Jones and Ingram? Those two guys made a huge differance last season. Ingram came in and gave Coffee a breather and still kept up the momentum.

Also it took a good coach to get these guys to play the way they did last year.

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Originally posted by hayssco:
Since scholarship limitations were created, Alabama has averaged a better recruiting class than Auburn, including the much lauded in-state recruits (since when did in-state recruits become the prized possession?). During this time, Auburn has won more games than Alabama. They are also 3rd in the state in winning percentage (behind Auburn & Troy)

So keep enjoying your great recruiting classes (it was Shula's recruits that made the huge difference last year) and we will do the same, and, unless the rules have changed, the games will be decided on the field (though, from the looks of it, only recruiting rankings matter).

Yeah auburn has enjoyed success due to Bama being hurt by probation. Bama also went though an unstable time with coaches. Auburn reaped the benefits of that too.

I'm laughing here at all the " SOUR GRAPES " these albarn posters are serving up. It's like they are trying their best to convince themselves that everything is alright down on the plains.

Here they have a 5-19 head coach that is on a 10 game losing streak and he is going to lead a bunch of mediocre players in the future. Albarn's head coach took a .500 team in Iowa and brought that average down.

Good luck with that self brain-washing. Yes you are right....we'll see!

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Originally posted by Rowdymale:
Yeah auburn has enjoyed success due to Bama being hurt by probation. Bama also went though an unstable time with coaches. Auburn reaped the benefits of that too.

Auburn went through unstable times in the 60's and 70's.... is that the only reason Bama won a lot during that time?? Careful of your answer there, wouldnt want to look like a hypocrite would you?..... LOL

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Originally posted by Rowdymale:
I'm laughing here at all the " SOUR GRAPES " these albarn posters are serving up. It's like they are trying their best to convince themselves that everything is alright down on the plains.

Here they have a 5-19 head coach that is on a 10 game losing streak and he is going to lead a bunch of mediocre players in the future. Albarn's head coach took a .500 team in Iowa and brought that average down.

Good luck with that self brain-washing. Yes you are right....we'll see!

What sour grapes??? all I've seen is Auburn fans posting facts about ON THE FIELD victories, and bammers blastin a bunch of 18 year old kids that signed with Auburn.... Yes, Chizik was 5-19.... but you obviously sip that kool-aid without looking at the ingredients. Look at the entire situation then see that Iowa St. gave him an extention. Yes, he has a ton to prove at Auburn, but he has done a fantastic job out of the gate....He knows he has a lot to prove and he doesnt want to let down Auburn University... He loves it... He has hired a fantastic staff, did a great job of recruiting in such a short period of time.... Now comes the on the field stuff.... Time will tell...All you are doing is making that crow that you will have to eat bigger if it turns out Auburn is as good as their potential shows for next year.

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Originally posted by cjtl1000r:

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Originally posted by hayssco:

(it was Shula's recruits that made the huge difference last year)

That is true to a point but who recruited Jones and Ingram? Those two guys made a huge differance last season. Ingram came in and gave Coffee a breather and still kept up the momentum.

Also it took a good coach to get these guys to play the way they did last year.

Last year's success was the O-line... plain and simple. Ask any football guy to watch the film on bama from last year and that's what they'd tell you. Jones and Ingram were both solid guys yes, and will be for the next few years.... But if that line struggled Bama struggled...i.e. Florida and Utah, and even a few games they squeaked by in the regular season. They had an A+ offensive line last year...Losing Smith, Cauldwell along with one other starter...plus Walker and McCall at TE is huge. I they can get to B+ that would be a big acheivement and would get them to the 9-10 win range....anthing less and it could be an adventure with a new QB.

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Originally posted by Rowdymale:

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Originally posted by hayssco:
Since scholarship limitations were created, Alabama has averaged a better recruiting class than Auburn, including the much lauded in-state recruits (since when did in-state recruits become the prized possession?). During this time, Auburn has won more games than Alabama. They are also 3rd in the state in winning percentage (behind Auburn & Troy)

So keep enjoying your great recruiting classes (it was Shula's recruits that made the huge difference last year) and we will do the same, and, unless the rules have changed, the games will be decided on the field (though, from the looks of it, only recruiting rankings matter).

Yeah auburn has enjoyed success due to Bama being hurt by probation. Bama also went though an unstable time with coaches. Auburn reaped the benefits of that too.

So Alabama was on probation since the 70s???? Scholarship limitations were introduced in 1973, with a transition period of 105 scholarships until 1977, then 95 until 1991, and the current 85 scholarship limit has been in effect since 1992. So since Alabama hasn't been on probation since the 1970s, you are simply making an inaccurate argument. Alabama owned the first scholarship limitation period, partly while Auburn played catch up, but once everything was allowed to get balanced, Auburn has owned the show (both in the Iron Bowl and against other opponents). Find a new excuse/moral victory.

Now Hayssco....That's way too much of a factually based post that deminishes the grand tradition of the great university of alabama..... There's no place for that here!!! LOL...hahahaha... Good stuff in that post, but it was in vain... Mullets look great, but don't absorb any fact that puts Auburn in a good light...much less facts that show that Auburn is equal to Alabama now in football.

The facts are:
Since 1950 the wins for each decade break down like this:
1950's they split 5-5, Bama owned the 60's 8-2, Bama owned the 70's 8-2, the 80's belonged to Auburn 6-4, the 90's once again went to the Tide 7-3 and since 2000 Auburn has a commanding 6-2 advantage.

Overall that is Bama 34 - Auburn 24 since 1950

Since 1970 Bama has a 21-17 lead

From 1980 until present Auburn has a 15-13 lead

None of that really shows any sustained Auburn dominance.

DHS... To me it's not about Auburn dominance. It's about how great a feat is has been for Auburn to pull even with bama after the Bear era. By the end of his coaching career Auburn was considered a second rate football school.... However, there is nothing that shows that Auburn has any reason to take a back seat to Bama any longer. No person with any football iq can say that Bama is still the dominate program in the state..those days left with unlimited schollys and the Bear... That's my real point.

aWBURN is still considered a second rate football school.

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Originally posted by Rowdymale:
aWBURN is still considered a second rate football school.

MY MY, how they come out of the wood work. finally win one, then here comes the post... cant help but laugh, so I will make a deal with you, when you take all those #1 recuits and lose to Auburn's 3 and 4 stars, will you post your picture over there <---- wearing a Auburn hat, that ranking means only one thing, that in HIGH SCHOOL THEY WERE THAT GOOD, Jones is an outstanding player, Ingram is an outstanding player. but that ranking only means one thing and that is on the high school level. So stand proud you BAMA fans, because it may come again when saban leaves for Michgan,lmao, that yall are stranded again out in the middle of now where talking about being on probation and your 12 national championships.... WAAAAAAAAAAAR-EAGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanx longarm... And no...he won't post anything like that if/when, Auburn wins the Iron Bowl....See, there will be a great excuse...now wait, reason why Auburn was able to come out on top....like solar flares, acid rain, global warming...maybe an earthquake... but out of the 32 out of the 71 times they've played, I'm sure there was a great reason why bama just wasnt up for the Iron Bowl that year. But everytime bama won it was against a great Auburn team that was playing it's heart out!! hahaha....

WAR EAGLE!!

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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
Thanx longarm... And no...he won't post anything like that if/when

IF is the correct term!
Roll Tide Roll!!!!

If is the right term.... for both teams... Like it's been "if Auburn wins" 7 out of the last 9 years....

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Originally posted by FloTownDown08:

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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
Thanx longarm... And no...he won't post anything like that if/when

IF is the correct term!
Roll Tide Roll!!!!

Was "If" not a word the prior 6 years before this Iron Bowl?

One thing is for sure, without a doubt, and it really don't matter how good either team is during the rest of the season. Alabama vs Auburn will ALWAYS be THE game to watch. Either team can win any day they play reguardless of records, players or coaches. The Iron Bowl is one game you should NEVER place a bet on unless you are prepared to hand over your money.

One thing is for sure, without a doubt, and it really don't matter how good either team is during the rest of the season. Alabama vs Auburn will ALWAYS be THE game to watch. Either team can win any day they play reguardless of records, players or coaches. The Iron Bowl is one game you should NEVER place a bet on unless you are prepared to hand over your money.


Oh no! I cant believe that I am going to say this; I totally agree with you! You have to be one of few Alabama fan's that I have ever agreed with! lol Thank you.

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Originally posted by cjtl1000r:
That is true to a point but who recruited Jones and Ingram? Those two guys made a huge difference last season.

Answer: Lance Thompson, who racked up eight more of Bama's top commits this year and then jumped ship for a rival.

Bama fans might as well get used to the revolving door of assistant coaches - it's the one constant with Nick Saban throughout his career. His record has been up and down (including at Bama) and overall he's a very good coach, but he's also extremely tough to work for and he's notorious for treating everyone around him like dirt going all the way back to his first HC job at MSU. Take the wins, but don't be surprised at the mass exodus of assistant-coaching talent every year, It's just part of the price you pay to have him.