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Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrusader:

Muslim upbringing, radicals for heroes, immoral parents, anti-American mentality an now this...

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-P...aily-Intel-Briefings

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Too bad George W. Bush did not miss those "intelligence" briefings wherein he was wildly misinformed about those "weapons of mass destruction" that never existed.


Too bad Bill Clinton was with Monica instead of the briefings regarding Osama Bin Laden.

Originally Posted by seeweed:

The supposition of the headline is wrong. First, Obama has made some excellent decisions, However, the decision to cave to Boner on ending the Bush tax cuts was a wrong one. So, one bad decision and you label him a bad decision maker.

 
Name a few of his "excellent" decisions, please. I can name plenty of the bad ones, although it would take a while.

Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by CaptainCrusader:

Muslim upbringing, radicals for heroes, immoral parents, anti-American mentality an now this...

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-P...aily-Intel-Briefings

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Too bad George W. Bush did not miss those "intelligence" briefings wherein he was wildly misinformed about those "weapons of mass destruction" that never existed.

All of our allies also came to that same conclusion. How much time did the UN give Sadamm to shuffle and hide his arsenal?
But, I agree, at least it wasn't Bush's fault. Any blame falls on his intelligence agencies and those of our allies.

Remember how the republicans were all over Clinton when he tried to blow up binLaden?  You forgot? How about that.


No, I don't and neither do you:

 

If you would take your head out of that hole you have it in you would remember. He dropped some bombs where binLaden was supposed to be. It was close to getting him, but the republican spin meisters called it an aspirin factory. 

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Remember how the republicans were all over Clinton when he tried to blow up binLaden?  You forgot? How about that.


No, I don't and neither do you:

 

If you would take your head out of that hole you have it in you would remember. He dropped some bombs where binLaden was supposed to be. It was close to getting him, but the republican spin meisters called it an aspirin factory. 

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No, he fired off a number of cruise missiles at an empty al Qaeda encampment -- destroying a number of mud huts. A failure of intelligence based on lack of huminit on the ground information. 

 

Last edited by direstraits
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Remember how the republicans were all over Clinton when he tried to blow up binLaden?  You forgot? How about that.


No, I don't and neither do you:

 

If you would take your head out of that hole you have it in you would remember. He dropped some bombs where binLaden was supposed to be. It was close to getting him, but the republican spin meisters called it an aspirin factory. 

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JT, to quote an old Drill Sergeant to one of his troops -- "grab left ear with left hand, grap right ear with right hand. Now remove head from duffel bag!"

 

It was the left that used the term aspirin factor, first  Michael Moore to be specific! 

 

"On August 20, 1998, President Clinton ordered the bombing of a factory in Khartoum, Sudan. The factory, the United States alleged, was making chemical weapons. Even more evil: it was linked to Osama bin Laden.

Of course, then the story unravelled. The factory was making aspirin, not weapons

..."http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.../wonderful/sudan.php

 

Republicans just echoed the lefties.

 

"Officials later acknowledged, however, that "the evidence that prompted President Clinton to order the missile strike on the Shifa plant was not as solid as first portrayed." Indeed, officials later said that there was no proof that the plant had been manufacturing or storing nerve gas, as initially suspected by the Americans, or had been linked to Osama bin Laden, who was a resident of Khartoum in the 1990s."[5]"

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C..._Sudan_(August_1998)

 

Once again, it was cruise missiles, not bombs. And the reason was a failure of humint intelligence.  I

Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Remember how the republicans were all over Clinton when he tried to blow up binLaden?  You forgot? How about that.


No, I don't and neither do you:

 

If you would take your head out of that hole you have it in you would remember. He dropped some bombs where binLaden was supposed to be. It was close to getting him, but the republican spin meisters called it an aspirin factory. 

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No, he fired off a number of cruise missiles at an empty al Qaeda encampment -- destroying a number of mud huts. A failure of intelligence based on lack of huminit on the ground information. 

 

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No, he took out some factories (aspirin I believe) that Ben Laden owned in the Horn of Africa, and he missed killing Ben Laden by a few minutes in that attact you describe as an "empty camp" .
However, the Congressional Republicans were not interested in Ben Laden (as apparantely W Bush never really was), because they were more tantalized by the Lowensky affair, and when he hit Ben Laden's factories adn the  camp, they in unison shouted "wag the dog" claiming Clinton was trying to deflect from Monica.

According to a Howard Wasdin, a former SEAL who wrote "SEAL Team Six", Clinton also screwed the pooch in Mogadishu.  I read the book and Wasdin did not hesitate when describing the disdain he felt for the Clintons:

 

http://www.americanthinker.com..._of_a_navy_seal.html

 

Howard Wasdin, also a former SEAL, wrote a book published earlier this year, SEAL Team Six.  This book gives the details about the life of a Navy SEAL sniper.  After becoming a member of SEAL Team Six, Wasdin graduated from the Marines' Scout Sniper School, becoming one of eighteen snipers on the team.  Especially poignant are the chapters that place the reader on the battlefields of Somalia and Mogadishu, where Black Hawk Down took place.

 

The last paragraph in the book summarizes Wasdin's views: "The SEAL Team Six sniper standards remain high[.] ... For the most part, their commitment, sacrifice, and patriotism will continue to remain hidden."  When asked about that quote, Wasdin commented, "I got the nation's highest medals, the Silver Star and Purple Heart, on an op that went completely wrong, Black Hawk Down.  I have been on a bunch of ops that have gone really, really well and never got any recognition.  The only reason we did not win this one is that Bill Clinton decided to cut tail and run, totally negating all the sacrifices made.  Sorry if I sound bitter, but I was in a position to see my buddies going down.  He totally pulled out before we had accomplished the mission, maintaining political points instead of wanting to win."

 

 

Originally Posted by seeweed:
Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Remember how the republicans were all over Clinton when he tried to blow up binLaden?  You forgot? How about that.


No, I don't and neither do you:

 

If you would take your head out of that hole you have it in you would remember. He dropped some bombs where binLaden was supposed to be. It was close to getting him, but the republican spin meisters called it an aspirin factory. 

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No, he fired off a number of cruise missiles at an empty al Qaeda encampment -- destroying a number of mud huts. A failure of intelligence based on lack of huminit on the ground information. 

 

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No, he took out some factories (aspirin I believe) that Ben Laden owned in the Horn of Africa, and he missed killing Ben Laden by a few minutes in that attact you describe as an "empty camp" .
However, the Congressional Republicans were not interested in Ben Laden (as apparantely W Bush never really was), because they were more tantalized by the Lowensky affair, and when he hit Ben Laden's factories adn the  camp, they in unison shouted "wag the dog" claiming Clinton was trying to deflect from Monica.

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I provided a link for my statements on the pharmaceutical factory.  Please provide same for your claim.

Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by seeweed:
Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Remember how the republicans were all over Clinton when he tried to blow up binLaden?  You forgot? How about that.


No, I don't and neither do you:

 

If you would take your head out of that hole you have it in you would remember. He dropped some bombs where binLaden was supposed to be. It was close to getting him, but the republican spin meisters called it an aspirin factory. 

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No, he fired off a number of cruise missiles at an empty al Qaeda encampment -- destroying a number of mud huts. A failure of intelligence based on lack of huminit on the ground information. 

 

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No, he took out some factories (aspirin I believe) that Ben Laden owned in the Horn of Africa, and he missed killing Ben Laden by a few minutes in that attact you describe as an "empty camp" .
However, the Congressional Republicans were not interested in Ben Laden (as apparantely W Bush never really was), because they were more tantalized by the Lowensky affair, and when he hit Ben Laden's factories adn the  camp, they in unison shouted "wag the dog" claiming Clinton was trying to deflect from Monica.

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I provided a link for my statements on the pharmaceutical factory.  Please provide same for your claim.

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Sorry, if you are too mentally disabled to remember. I am not your Google, but , like Delta, it is ready when you are.

 

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

I provided a link for my statements on the pharmaceutical factory.  Please provide same for your claim.

I clicked on your listed site and the only response was "invalid request". The problem may be in my computer.It is on its last legs.

The story I heard was, missed binLaden by minutes.

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My first link

http://www.bowlingforcolumbine.../wonderful/sudan.php

works just fine and details how Michael Moore used the term aspirin factory long before others. 

 

The second link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C..._Sudan_(August_1998)

 

worked fine in IE as well. Bin Laden was not the owner of the pharmaceutical factory.

 

Wiki also mentions the 1998 cruise missile attack on bin Laden and that it was hours, not minutes.

 

 

Last edited by direstraits
Originally Posted by seeweed:
Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by seeweed:
Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Remember how the republicans were all over Clinton when he tried to blow up binLaden?  You forgot? How about that.


No, I don't and neither do you:

 

If you would take your head out of that hole you have it in you would remember. He dropped some bombs where binLaden was supposed to be. It was close to getting him, but the republican spin meisters called it an aspirin factory. 

________________________________________
No, he fired off a number of cruise missiles at an empty al Qaeda encampment -- destroying a number of mud huts. A failure of intelligence based on lack of huminit on the ground information. 

 

=================

No, he took out some factories (aspirin I believe) that Ben Laden owned in the Horn of Africa, and he missed killing Ben Laden by a few minutes in that attact you describe as an "empty camp" .
However, the Congressional Republicans were not interested in Ben Laden (as apparantely W Bush never really was), because they were more tantalized by the Lowensky affair, and when he hit Ben Laden's factories adn the  camp, they in unison shouted "wag the dog" claiming Clinton was trying to deflect from Monica.

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I provided a link for my statements on the pharmaceutical factory.  Please provide same for your claim.

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Sorry, if you are too mentally disabled to remember. I am not your Google, but , like Delta, it is ready when you are.

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Pretty poor excuse. You feel yourself to be an immaculate source of information. No one can question you, is that it?  Once more, I provided the source of my info. Provide yours.

 

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