Are YOU Registered To Vote?

Hi to all my Forum Friends,

ARE YOU REGISTERED TO VOTE?  If yes, please exercise that privilege this coming November.  If no, why not?  It is a simple process.  Simply visit the web site shown in the URL link below, find your state, print your Voter Registration Form -- and mail it.

You have an opportunity to impact your nation, your home state, your community, and your family -- by voting.  Why would you waste such a privilege that many have died, and are still dying, to give to you?

And, if you have Friends or Family who are not registered to vote -- please, bring this Voter Registration web site to their attention. 


UNITED STATES ELECTION ASSISTANCE COMMISSION
http://www.eac.gov/voter_resou...tact_your_state.aspx

SEE YOU AT THE VOTING BOOTH!


God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

1 - Your Vote Counts

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Originally Posted by seeweed:

Yes I am registered , and if the republicans try to deny me my vote this fall there weill be hell to pay.

Why would you be denied?  You have stated you drive so you have a Government issued ID with a picture.  While we may be brothers in the lodge we usually disagree in politics.  I think every legal American who is legal to vote should be required to vote.  I simply believe in this day and age it is no too much to ask to show a Government issued ID with a pic.  Somehow most of the people complaining can find time to get public assistance wither it be earned as in S.S. or welfare etc.   In Memphis where I am from dead people, illegals and felons vote every election and this needs to stop.

quote:   Originally Posted by HIFLYER2:
quote:   Originally Posted by seeweed:

Yes I am registered , and if the republicans try to deny me my vote this fall there weill be hell to pay.


 
Why would you be denied?  You have stated you drive so you have a Government issued ID with a picture.  While we may be brothers in the lodge we usually disagree in politics.  I think every legal American who is legal to vote should be required to vote. 

 

I simply believe in this day and age it is no too much to ask to show a Government issued ID with a pic.  Somehow most of the people complaining can find time to get public assistance wither it be earned as in S.S. or welfare etc.   In Memphis where I am from dead people, illegals and felons vote every election and this needs to stop.


Hi Flyer,

 

I agree with you completely.   It does not bother me at all to have to produce legitimate identification to vote or to cash a check.   It is just like driving a car.  If I have my valid drivers' license, car registration available, and am not speeding -- why should I get nervous about flashing lights behind me?   I just pull to the right and let them speed on after those who are violating the law.

 

We need good Voter ID laws in all states -- and let the dead folks rest in peace.   Can you imagine being dead -- and finding out that you have just voted for Obama?  Now, that is truly hell.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

 

LOOKING FOR VOTES?

 

Reagan, Bush, and Obama

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Bill , you and others make that dead people voting accusation a lot, yet although I have ask, not one person has presented any credible proof . If you got it , please link it, otherwise, it just goes into the lie bucket. along with some of your other terms like "pro abortion" .

Originally Posted by HIFLYER2:
Originally Posted by seeweed:

Yes I am registered , and if the republicans try to deny me my vote this fall there weill be hell to pay.

Why would you be denied?  You have stated you drive so you have a Government issued ID with a picture.  While we may be brothers in the lodge we usually disagree in politics.  I think every legal American who is legal to vote should be required to vote.  I simply believe in this day and age it is no too much to ask to show a Government issued ID with a pic.  Somehow most of the people complaining can find time to get public assistance wither it be earned as in S.S. or welfare etc.   In Memphis where I am from dead people, illegals and felons vote every election and this needs to stop.

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In most of the states where Republicans are in charge, there is an effort do disenfranchise anybody that they think will vote for a Democrat. think of all the disenfranchised people who were denied a vote in the 2000 election in Fla. 

Since I make no secret of my political affiliation, I can only assume that they are plotting some way to disenfranchise me as we "discuss" on this forum. An orange orangutan would win in Alabama if it were on the ticket as a Republican, so I agree  that my vote will have little influence in this backwards state, but I will make every attempt to cast it. I have not missed a presidential election since I turned 21, the legal voting age back then. 

I will ask you the same I ask Bill, other than innuendo, is there any documented proof of dead people voting ?

I found this :

http://www.truthaboutfraud.org/

 

However, I agree that there is some fraud, but for the most part, it is a person registered in a place they don't actually live. 

Here is an example of a person who committed voter fraud.

http://articles.businessinside...s-governor-residency

 

Now the real question is, if people are fraudulently voting, that is a crime. Why are the police not arresting them ?

Originally Posted by HIFLYER2:

Seeweed,

Your wish is granted:

http://dailycaller.com/2011/07...unts-of-voter-fraud/

"the page you are looking for cannot be found"

http://azpundit.com/judge-slap...uring-2008-election/

"This is not a voter registration fraud case, it is an improper compensation case,” countered Lisa Rasmussen, the ACORN attorney, who argued that the fine should only be $1,000."

http://www.politifact.com/texa...t-dead-voters-Texas/

Did you read the last statement

http://www.politico.com/news/stoies/0512/76443.html

We're sorry, but that page cannot be found

http://www.wmctv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4291794

Ok, I'll give you this one , up to a point, but I would like to know the outcome of the investigation.

In the meantime, The commission administrator says he'll recommend that his board turn the results of our investigation over to the Attorney General's office for further investigation.


http://www.ire.org/resource-ce...0on%20voting%20lists

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Uh-oh! Page not found"

 

 

Just the tip of the iceburg

 

I was not able to get 3 of the sites as you can see, one had nothing to do with voter fraud, one had the final statement saying there was no real voter fraud, and the last one, from Memphis is 68 alleged voter fraud,. out of the millions of people who voted, that is pretty small.

Seeweed,

I don't know they work for me maybe a Mac thing as I use one?  All you have to do is got to WWW.GOOGLE.COM and type in illegal voters or dead voters and see the results.  I do not want to deny any legal American citizen who is eligible to vote their right to vote.  I simply believe it is not too much to ask for a Government Pic ID to vote.  I also do not believe it will impact that many people anyway as almost all already have one.  The few it impact will be microscopic compared to the illegal votes stopped.

It is not that I have a problem so much with havihg to have an ID, it is just that for a lot of people an ID may not be readily avaliable. For example, in a lot of big cities, there is a lot of people who don't drive - don't need to as they can get around on the public transportation. so, for those people, and for a lot of older and pooer people, it is downright inconvenient to go get a picture ID, and in some cases it cost money (read that poll tax).  

Also, as part of this, a lot of picture ID's are not accepted, some recent news articles in USA Today have mentioned veterns denied their rights , some even had a government issued picture ID, but the states wouldn't recognize it. 

Add to that, that Gov Scott in Fla who issued a "purge"order to the sec of state to rid the state of "questionable" voters, and of course by that he meant black voters. 

I think it all adds up to an attempt to disenfranchise a lot of rightful voters , mostly old, poor, and or black. You know, likely Democratic voters and most of which would not raise a ruckus , just bow their heads and go home. 

On the other hand, I'm not all that worried for myself, I'm white, not too old, and can become quite obnoxious when someone is trying to screw over me, a trait I learned from an old boss who had a MBA from Harvard where they actually teach people how to be obnoxious by asking questions that have no good answer.

Just a side note, 

What do you think should happen to someone who commits voter fraud ?

Should they be put in jail ?, should they pay a fine ?, should they be denied the right to vote from now on ?, or should they be allowed to run for president of the United States ?

Originally Posted by Contendah:

Bill, voting is NOT a "privilege," as you assert.  It is a RIGHT and is so identified in both Article XV  and Article  XIX  of the Constitution.Lookitup!

It is only a right for a American Citizen who is legal to vote!!  Not felons, illegals or dead people.

Originally Posted by HIFLYER2:
Originally Posted by Contendah:

Bill, voting is NOT a "privilege," as you assert.  It is a RIGHT and is so identified in both Article XV  and Article  XIX  of the Constitution.Lookitup!

It is only a right for a American Citizen who is legal to vote!!  Not felons, illegals or dead people.

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Meaning, one would suppose, that the right to vote, to whomever it applies, is indeed a right, and not merely a privilege, which is all that I was saying.

Interesting article I found today about the current campaign to rid the country of voters -

http://www.winningprogressive....entification-mandate

 

 

(By Fay Paxton, cross-posted at The Pragmatic Pundit)

I have never bought into the whole voter ID scam because I know history and bull****.  Doesn’t it strike anyone as hypocritical that the small government advocates, who hate mandates have mandated that everyone has to have a government ID?  In light of the fact that voter fraud is virtually non-existent, there’s no reason to believe that the same identification process that has always worked will continue to serve us well.  Still, there’s nothing like personal experience to give validity to one’s argument.

Let me give you my personal encounter with the voter identification process:

Some months ago, I moved to Kansas.  As is required, I went to the Department of Motor Vehicles to exchange my driver’s license for a Kansas license, to make record of my new address and to register to vote.  In order to make certain I would cover every possibility, I simply grabbed what I call “my identity packet” which contains the following:

My birth certificate
My social security card and my last social security statement that projects my benefits
A passport
Current 1099’s
My current tax return
My insurance policy
My Dependent Care Packet (a notarized, exhaustive packet issued by the military to anyone who will be responsible for the care of military children in the event of disability or death of a soldier)

I have credit cards and debit cards
A current driver’s license and automobile registration
A picture ID issued by the United States Armed Forces

To verify my new address I took mail I had received, since my relocation from:

The utility company
The Telephone company
My rental lease
A registered letter from the Internal Revenue Service

I COULD NOT REGISTER TO VOTE!

Acceptable Documents

Most of the items are simply not on the list of acceptable documents and clearly the people charged with verifying identity have no authority to use common sense.  My passport was issued in my hyphenated married name so I needed an original copy of my divorce decree to verify that my name has changed and of course, a copy of my marriage license to prove that I was married in the first place.

Okay, I get that the tax items were not on the list of acceptable items but a Dependent Care Package, a legal affidavit issued by the United States Army? They investigate and verify every aspect of one’s life; employment, income, family relations, assets, etc.  But then the military ID which allows you to prowl, unescorted around a military base, does not contain an expiration date.  Why is an expiration date even necessary?  If my driver’s license expires tomorrow, do I cease being the person on the picture?  Is the house I’ve resided in for twenty years no longer my address? That’s like saying if you don’t know your birthday, you were never born.  And isn’t the requirement to have a picture ID a mandate?

The items I used to verify my new address were not accepted because, as the clerk explained, “I have you listed at an address in Chicago and one in Maryland.”  Hmmm.  She accepted that the person with multiple addresses was me but the person standing before her was not.

I explained that I own property in both places, but that clearly I wasn’t presently residing in either place.  The lease and utility bill verifying my new address were meaningless.  As was the registered letter from the IRS.  The postman had required my identification and signature.  But IRS was not on the list!

Alas, I exist, afterall

During a second visit, exasperated, I rifled through my documents looking for something acceptable, when the clerk suddenly said, “Oh, I can accept this.”  She picked up an unopened letter from my bank and though it was clearly postmarked, SHE OPENED IT!  “I have to verify that there has been activity in the last three months.”  I was no longer exasperated, I was ****ed!

The information for my new driver’s license printed out, along with my voter’s registration.  I was photographed  for my new driver’s license.  I took a seat and waited for my name to be called.

I watched as an elderly woman, barely able to walk grappled with the fact that she still carried her husband’s name despite the fact he had been dead for decades.  She waved the death certificate and marriage license.

“He was killed in the war….I’ve lived in the same house for over fifty years….you know me.”  She was at the brink of tears.

“I understand”
, the clerk explained. “Don’t blame me, blame all these bad illegals who are taking advantage of us all and have made it bad for everybody.” 

“Well, don’t punish me…I am an American citizen….my husband and son both fought and died in wars for this country and I’m not going to be able to vote?”

The clerk handed her a tissue.  “What you will have to do is change your name back to your own name.”  She gave her the address and necessary information.  “After you have officially changed your name, bring in the official papers and I will be able to issue you a state ID.”

Just so you know, she was white.  I couldn’t help but think of my own mother, who never had a driver’s license…never owned a car…she never learned to drive.  Not because she was poor, she was anything but that, it just isn’t a necessity or desire in everyone’s life to own a car.

Hoop-time

I was thoroughly disgusted by the time I left.  A couple of months later, it occurred to me that I had not received a voter’s registration card, nor any communication from the election board.  I retrieved the form and for the first time, inspected the registration.  It had no first name printed on it; not even an initial.  How did that happen when it printed out at the same time as the driver’s license which contained my first name and middle initial?

At the County Clerk’s office, a worker complained that “she was tired of correcting their mistakes”.  But was it a mistake?  How many people will even notice the error before election day?  They think they’re registered, but they will not be able to vote.

On the fourth of July, I had a cookout for 22 soldiers.  Why did 14 of them complain that they had not be able to vote in the last election?  Every one of these men had been deployed to Iraq and/or Afghanistan more than once to risk their lives so the enemy can vote, while they were denied that right in their own country.

Voters have always had to identify themselves, there simply was a different standard of identification.  And the statistics prove, it was a system of identification that worked…FOR A HUNDRED YEARS!  Those who argue that photo identification is required to buy a beer or fly, fail to differentiate between a privilege and a Constitutional right.

I often read comments that question how individuals who receive government benefits can do so without identification, but the argument simply confirms that a photo ID is not necessary to prove who you are. Just as the clerk was able to tell me all my addresses, they have a hundred databases to pull from and crosscheck.  In fact, the government knows where you are as you read this article.   Shame on you people who uphold an activity that infringes on peoples Constitutional rights.  Voting isn’t a Democratic or Republican right.  It’s an American right!

Note:  So many people have emailed to ask, I thought I’d let everyone know, I still have not received my voter registration card.

 

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We have always known that high voter turnout favors the Democratic party, low voter turnout favors the Republicans.  Looks like they are attempting to promote the lower voter turnout .

I realize that Kansas is chunked full of bats*it crazy people , but this is pretty bad.

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