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And THIS is from a CNN poll!  http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/bestoftv/2013/11/24/exp-politics-steinhauser-new-obama-polls.cnn&iref=allsearch&video_referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cnn.com%2Fsearch%2F%3Fquery%3Dapproval%26primaryType%3Dmixed%26sortBy%3Drelevance%26intl%3Dfalse%26x%3D0%26y%3D0

 

 

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Originally Posted by jtdavis:

If anyone wants Obama to fail, isn't that a way of saying, "I want America to fail"?  I never voted for either Bush or Reagan, but I never wanted them to fail.

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Last time I checked, one did not say allegiance to Obamacare, nor do the military and civil servants take an oath to support the thing.  Obamacare is not America

Are you one of those sycophants filmed singing praises and praising the Chosen One!  Obamacare is a law -- a poorly written, poorly thought out travesty.  Its not in the constitution, the bill of rights, the Declaration, nor mentioned in the Federalist Papers.

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Bush is no longer president.  Nor, did Bush enter the presidency with such a large devoted following.    That is correct, he did not have a majority and the supreme court (5 republican, 4 democrat appointees) voted along party lines to seat him.  Don't forget that.

 

 

One thing for sure I won't forget-Bush was a million times a better president than the horror show you lefties put in office with all your dirty dealings, lies, vote selling, and empty promises that people with good sense knew would never be fulfilled.

Washington (CNN) - Only four out of 10 Americans believe President Barack Obama can manage the federal government effectively, according to a new national poll.
And a CNN/ORC International survey released Monday morning also indicates that 53% of Americans now believe that Obama is not honest and trustworthy, the first time that a clear majority in CNN polling has felt that way.

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According to the survey, conducted last Monday through Wednesday, 40% say the President can manage the government effectively. That 40% figure is down 12 percentage points from June and is the worst score Obama received among the nine personal characteristics tested in the new poll.
"A lot of attention has focused on the President's numbers on honesty in new polling the past three weeks, but it looks like the recent controversy over Obamacare has had a bigger impact on his status as an effective manager of the government, and that may be what is really driving the drop in Obama's approval rating this fall," CNN Polling Director Keating Holland said.
Does being an effective manager count more than honesty?
"Just ask Bill Clinton, whose overall approval ratings remained high during and after the Monica Lewinsky scandal because three-quarters of all Americans thought he could get things done, even though only about one in five said he was honest," Holland added.
Obama's woes are not limited to honesty and his managerial skills. Fifty-six percent say he is not a person they admire, and an equal number say he does not agree with them on important issues. Fifty-six percent also say he does not inspire confidence, and 53% don't view him as a strong and decisive leader. All of those figures are all-time records for Obama in CNN polling.
There is a silver lining in the poll for the President: He's still seen as someone who cares about ordinary Americans, six in 10 say he has a vision for the country's future, and seven in 10 say he is likable–his best attribute of the nine items tested in this poll. But the numbers are down for both admiration and likeability.
"It's clear that views of Obama as a person - once his strong suit - have taken a hit in October and throughout 2013," said Holland.
The poll was conducted November 18-20 for CNN by ORC International, with 843 adult Americans questioned by telephone. The survey's overall sampling error is plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
– CNN Political Editor Paul Steinhauser contributed to this report.
Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Bush is no longer president.  Nor, did Bush enter the presidency with such a large devoted following.    That is correct, he did not have a majority and the supreme court (5 republican, 4 democrat appointees) voted along party lines to seat him.  Don't forget that.

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NO!  The Florida Supreme Court attempted to over ride the Florida state constitution.  The US Supreme Court thwarted that attempt and the law prevailed.  Their Secretary of State concluded Bush won and awarded the electors to him.  Subsequent recounts paid for by the NY Times upheld that Bush won the election.  No rewrites of history, please.

 

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

Bush is no longer president.  Nor, did Bush enter the presidency with such a large devoted following.    That is correct, he did not have a majority and the supreme court (5 republican, 4 democrat appointees) voted along party lines to seat him.  Don't forget that.

Well I don't know what choice you were left with when gore didn't win
Florida or Tennessee. I guess gore's home state is D.C.

Florida couldn't make enough bogus votes to pull it out.

Don't blame it on the supreme court.

jtd. the truth is there ain't been many cases of voter fraud reported.  But the implementation of having to show a picture ID is not gonna cost the tax payer any more than the current system.  Now I am gonna ask you a couple of questions.

What does odumass's low approval ratings have to do with voter fraud?

Does requiring potential voters to show a picture ID violate yours or their rights?

 

In Lawrence county Tennessee, the republican dominated state government has made it a hardship for some people to get government issued picture ID's.  You have to go to Columbia to get it done. If you live in the southwest part of the county, it's about a 70 mile one way drive.  I know a WWII pow who does not have a picture ID.  He can't vote.

Dunno jt, sure sounds easy to me.

 

Department of Safety and Homeland Security Prepared to Help Voters Get Photo IDs

Voter ID

  • Starting in 2012, registered voters in Tennessee will have to show government-issued photo identification in order to cast a ballot at the polls.
  • Acceptable forms of ID include:
    • Tennessee drivers license with your photo
    • United States Passport
    • Photo ID issued by the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security
    • Photo ID issued by the federal or Tennessee state government
    • United States Military photo ID
    • Tennessee handgun carry permit with your photo
  • Student ID cards from state universities are NOT acceptable.
  • The new law requiring a government-issued photo ID to vote applies only to those voting at polling places. It does not apply to those casting absentee ballots under state law, including those age 60 or older who wish to vote absentee or those voting at licensed nursing homes.

For Citizens Without Government-Issued Photo IDs

  • If you are a registered voter and do not have a government-issued photo ID, the Department of Safety and Homeland Security will provide you with a photo ID at no charge. Citizens may obtain these IDs at 48 of the Driver Service Centers across the state. (The only center where IDs are not available is the Driver License Reinstatement Center on Murfreesboro Road in Davidson County.)
  • To minimize wait times, groups or organizations planning to bring several people to the centers for photo IDs are encouraged to make appointments by calling Linda Cone at 731-225-0924 or Wanda Adams at 615-251-5309.
  • Under the new voter ID law, in order to get a photo ID for voting purposes, voters must show the following documentation to a Driver Service Center examiner:
    • Proof of citizenship (such as a birth certificate); and
    • Two proofs of Tennessee residency (such as a copy of a utility bill, vehicle registration/title, or bank statement).
  • It is very important to bring these documents to the Driver Service Center. Under the law, the Department of Safety and Homeland Security cannot issue a photo ID without each of these required items. (If you do not have a birth certificate, ask to speak to a Driver Service Center manager who will work with you to identify possible other documentation to prove citizenship).
  • For a photo ID, each applicant must also sign an affidavit under penalty of perjury stating that he or she does not have a valid government-issued photo ID for voting purposes. To expedite this transaction, voters may print the affidavit here and sign it before visiting the Driver Service Center. Copies of this affidavit are also available at county election commissions across the state.

For Citizens With Non-Photo Driver Licenses

  • Any citizen who currently holds a non-photo Tennessee driver license may elect to simply get a photo driver license rather than a separate photo ID.
  • Registered voters may convert a non-photo driver license to a photo driver license at Driver Service Centers.
  • A citizen with a non-photo driver license must sign an affidavit under penalty of perjury stating that he or she does not have a valid government-issued photo ID for voting purposes. To expedite this transaction, voters may print the affidavit here and sign it before visiting the Driver Service Center. Copies of this affidavit are also available at county election commissions across the state. There will be no fee for this service.

 

http://www.tn.gov/safety/photoids.shtml

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

In Lawrence county Tennessee, the republican dominated state government has made it a hardship for some people to get government issued picture ID's.  You have to go to Columbia to get it done. If you live in the southwest part of the county, it's about a 70 mile one way drive.  I know a WWII pow who does not have a picture ID.  He can't vote.

Does he not drive?

Originally Posted by teyates:

A WWII p.o.w would have to be near 90 years old.  If he has gotten by this many years without an ID, he should have to get one.  That is ridiculous.  How does the man cash a check or put money in his account at the bank.  I think we are being fed a line of BS.

 

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Unless the WWII POW was German, Italian, or Jap.

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Dunno jt, sure sounds easy to me.

 

Department of Safety and Homeland Security Prepared to Help Voters Get Photo IDs

Voter ID

  • Starting in 2012, registered voters in Tennessee will have to show government-issued photo identification in order to cast a ballot at the polls.
  • Acceptable forms of ID include:
    • Tennessee drivers license with your photo
    • United States Passport
    • Photo ID issued by the Tennessee Department of Safety and Homeland Security
    • Photo ID issued by the federal or Tennessee state government
    • United States Military photo ID
    • Tennessee handgun carry permit with your photo
  • Student ID cards from state universities are NOT acceptable.
  • The new law requiring a government-issued photo ID to vote applies only to those voting at polling places. It does not apply to those casting absentee ballots under state law, including those age 60 or older who wish to vote absentee or those voting at licensed nursing homes.

For Citizens Without Government-Issued Photo IDs

  • If you are a registered voter and do not have a government-issued photo ID, the Department of Safety and Homeland Security will provide you with a photo ID at no charge. Citizens may obtain these IDs at 48 of the Driver Service Centers across the state. (The only center where IDs are not available is the Driver License Reinstatement Center on Murfreesboro Road in Davidson County.)
  • To minimize wait times, groups or organizations planning to bring several people to the centers for photo IDs are encouraged to make appointments by calling Linda Cone at 731-225-0924 or Wanda Adams at 615-251-5309.
  • Under the new voter ID law, in order to get a photo ID for voting purposes, voters must show the following documentation to a Driver Service Center examiner:
    • Proof of citizenship (such as a birth certificate); and
    • Two proofs of Tennessee residency (such as a copy of a utility bill, vehicle registration/title, or bank statement).
  • It is very important to bring these documents to the Driver Service Center. Under the law, the Department of Safety and Homeland Security cannot issue a photo ID without each of these required items. (If you do not have a birth certificate, ask to speak to a Driver Service Center manager who will work with you to identify possible other documentation to prove citizenship).
  • For a photo ID, each applicant must also sign an affidavit under penalty of perjury stating that he or she does not have a valid government-issued photo ID for voting purposes. To expedite this transaction, voters may print the affidavit here and sign it before visiting the Driver Service Center. Copies of this affidavit are also available at county election commissions across the state.

For Citizens With Non-Photo Driver Licenses

  • Any citizen who currently holds a non-photo Tennessee driver license may elect to simply get a photo driver license rather than a separate photo ID.
  • Registered voters may convert a non-photo driver license to a photo driver license at Driver Service Centers.
  • A citizen with a non-photo driver license must sign an affidavit under penalty of perjury stating that he or she does not have a valid government-issued photo ID for voting purposes. To expedite this transaction, voters may print the affidavit here and sign it before visiting the Driver Service Center. Copies of this affidavit are also available at county election commissions across the state. There will be no fee for this service.

 

http://www.tn.gov/safety/photoids.shtml


Tennessee QUIT issuing 'non-photo' IDs in the 1980s.

He is 89.  His answer is, "I ain't gonna drive a 100 miles to get my picture took".  Part of the problem is, it's a small community, he knows them, they know him, he knew their parents and probably grandparents.  He has a voter registeration card and feels like they are insinuating that he is lying.  He has shown me his drivers license, and two or three military id's,  none of them have a picture.

Again, it isn't like he is a stranger.  Also, he's very religious.  

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