Bill Nye on religious superstition: Fear of death makes people ‘nutty’

You, and many others, are content to put your faith in what Bill Nye says but I consider Bill Nye as Spiritually blind as anyone else who knows not Christ and has not had a relationship or encounter with God.  It is only natural that one seeks to find any other reason for mankind's existance and how we got here when you do not believe in or accept God as being a valid and real entity.   Saying that it isn't so though doesn't make it so.   

Those whom God has saved, whom God has enabled (John 6:44) who have accepted God's gift (of Salvation) through Christ and have received God's Holy Spirit as PROOF and assurance of His existance and certainity of the validity of their own conversaion need no more assurance.  Those who continue to refuse God and reject any possibility of something because they, themselves cannot feel, see, or experience it certainly can be understood to rationalize and justify their not having this proof or knowledge by simply considering those who report differently are simply delusioned or somehow fooling themselves.

Those who believe and accept Creation as the method and path that mankind and other species got here simply state that we don't now HOW God chose to create and establish what He has and did but rather accept that there are far greater and more powerful things out there than our own selves and that being human means there are far greater things out there that we have yet to be able to conceive or understand.  That there exist something far greater than our own selves, someone that loves us, His Creation, enough that He desires a knowing,conscience, relationship with Himself thus He (God) provided a method and path by which mankind can establish a relationship with our Creator and the onw who brought us about.  That method is through faith in Christ Jesus and as a result receiveing God's own Holy Spirit our PROOF and EVIDENCE totally sufficient for us to KNOW that God is not only Real but working in and through us and is alive within our own bodies and that we can see and sense throughout all nature and the Universe.

Certainly those who know not God who have no way  of experiencing His magnifigance have only to deny it and rationalize some other way or path and Like Bill Nye just consider those who God has revealed Himselff to as being delusional and crazy and find som valid way of writing them off so that they can feel warm and fuzzy in a world that they strive to explain.

For God so loved the world that He gave His only Son (He God, came unto mankind in human flesh, born of a woman,) that whoever trust, adheres to and believes in Christ/God's sacrifice on the Cross as an atonment for mankinds sinfulness is not thus lost and hopeless but will be saved, brought close unto God the Creator who will establish, through His Holy Spirit a very close and personal relatiionship with mankind who accepts Him and His testimony.  God did not come (through Christ) at this time to judge and bring judgment upon the earth and mankind but rather to provide unique Salvation unto mankind.  It is up to mankind to decide what to do with that and whether or not to accept it.  

To those who know and are saved, of God, and have received His Holy Spirit who continually ministers unto us do not need any more proof for the evidence is living, dwelling, within our own bodies.  It is God's Holy Spirit with our inner Spirit confirming not only God's existance but His promise unto us.  For those, outside, who know not God it most certainly and understandabily is foolishness but for us who know Christ/God it is the Power of God and we only wish we could impart that knowledge unto everyone else.  We are left with only to share our experience and hope that each person will in time respond to God's call, His invitation to know and experience Him, throug Christ, mankind's ONLY path and method to know and Please God and meet His requirements for mankind.

You, and many others, are content to put your faith in what Bill Nye says but I consider Bill Nye as Spiritually blind as anyone else who knows not Christ and has not had a relationship or encounter with God.

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And? You saying he's wrong doesn't make him wrong and you saying it is so doesn't make it so. As for the rest of your sermon, I skipped it. KISS

I like Bill Nye.  I find him to be a very intelligent and insightful man.  And he is right when he says that there is a system of indoctrination in Christianity.  It goes so far as to be brain washing in my opinion.  It starts at a very early age and continues until the brain washing is broken. 

We as humans want to give meaning to the things we cannot readily explain.  When something we cannot explain happens, we attribute it to the supernatural, even though there is no rational reason to believe in the supernatural.  When our loved ones die, we experience emotional pain.  We miss them.  We want them to continue living and to see them again.  So, we create a life after death, even though there is no rational evidence or reason to believe in it.  

We humans are a superstitious lot.  We believe in luck and fate.  We believe in ghosts and demons and even all powerful gods, even though there is only anecdotal evidence.  Christianity holds no more validity than any other religion.  They are all based on superstition.

Ya lost me at "knows not christ."

If ya wanna make a point that your susperstition makes more sense than actual science with verifiable evidence does, I'd suggest using plain English.

Speaking like Yoda-Impress me it does not.

  When our loved ones die, we experience emotional pain.  We miss them.  We want them to continue living and to see them again.  So, we create a life after death, even though there is no rational evidence or reason to believe in it.  

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My loved ones are alive in my mind. I don't do it often, but I still dream about them and it is like having a visit. When I die, all that will be gone, and I won't know anything. That is OK with me, I don't believe in or desire an eternal life. I do want to be remembered by the ones I love in a loving way, and when they dream of me have it be a pleasant "visit" they can smile about when they wake up.

gbrk, the forum troll is back, just reading right now & it's killing him that you have taken over his pulpit.

At least you won't be mocking, making fun, telling lies on us, & using his stupid cartoons but we would come more near to reading your post if they weren't so long.

They'd do better to open their own churches, seeing as how they're frustrated peacher wannabes.

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Best, this is probably the most mellow thing you've posted in two months, and quite beautiful. 

I love that and couldn't have put it any better. They live on in our minds and hearts long after they are gone. 

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Too, today we have every way in the world to record their lives. Pictures, videos, phone videos, you name it. There are such a few photos of my parents, the older family before us, and me and my siblings when we were kids.

You are correct!  "does not know Christ" is more plain than "knows not Christ" however both mean essentially the same.  As for superstition  ..  that is an opinion and I will just say there is no superstition about it.  While I cannot, in physical ways, demonstrate that which is, to me, true beyond any question, it still remains a matter of faith and there is much that is true and valid yet remains beyond Science's ability to explain or comprehend.  You cannot scientifically analyze or explain the concept of Love yet that doesn't mean that Love doesn't exist.  Emotions exist but not to the point that you can put one under a microscope.  There are even actual physical things that gives Science difficulty and that it strives to define but cannot.  Although we can estimate what lies at the center of our planet no sensor, probe, or measuring device as ever made it that far so as to give definitive proof of what the center of our own planet is like.  

There are things that have to be taken on faith alone and each individual decides, for themselves, what they want to accept as true and believable and whether or not something is factual or not.

Comedy? For me it's posts like gb and a few others make. For instance, I wonder how I have put my 'faith' in what bill nye said/says. How does gb decide what I and others are 'content' to put our faith in? What could be funnier than a wannabe preacher trying to use big words to spin long rambling sermons on a newspaper forum? Nye debated ham, seems nye is dealing with the same type of comedy.

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Gb sez:

You, and many others, are content to put your faith in what Bill Nye says

Bill Nye is like many others who rely upon science to confirm everything to them.  Trouble is Science is sure up and until the next sure thing comes along.  I'm sure at one time, according to Science, the world was flat.  Just as today there are many scientist who say man made climate warming is scientific proof and many may have genuine beliefs of such based upon the data they see.  Trouble is more and more revelations are coming forth that the very data that is used to prove man made climate warming is modified and false so the basis of their very belief is void.  They are putting their faith, with regards to climate warming, in data with no real factual basis.  Worse there are many other very qualified, competent scientist that are being fired or discredited over this one topic, when they come out opposed to man made climate warming.

Then there are some who, when it comes to matters of religion or anything to do with Christianity go absolutely ballistic.  Where there are many additives that define them or could describe them OBSESSED seems to be one that fits best.  They are so obsessed with Christians to the point that their anger and inner bitterness oozes out of just about every pore of their body.  Scientist and those who are like this are livid and full of rage in most every encounter they have with a Christian or person of faith.     It reminds me of the following passage of Scripture:

Romans 8:5-9 (New International Version)
⁵  Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires.
⁶  The mind of sinful man is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace;
⁷  the sinful mind is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so.
⁸  Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God.
⁹  You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.  

 Mankind has not changed from the standpoint of exactly who and what we are.  WE still are governed by that fleshly nature that nature which itself is opposed to God.  It is very vividly highlighted in the following verses:

Colossians 3:8-10 (New International Version)
⁸  But now you must rid yourselves of all such things as these: anger, rage, malice, slander, and filthy language from your lips.
⁹  Do not lie to each other, since you have taken off your old self with its practices
¹⁰  and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. 

also highlighted in Galatians:

Galatians 5:19-21 (New International Version)
¹⁹  The acts of the sinful nature are obvious: sexual immorality, impurity and debauchery;
²⁰  idolatry and witchcraft; hatred, discord, jealousy, fits of rage, selfish ambition, dissensions, factions
²¹  and envy; drunkenness, orgies, and the like. I warn you, as I did before, that those who live like this will not inherit the kingdom of God. 

While, yes, there are Christians that are radical in their faith and there are those that seek to impose their personal beliefs on others in a forceful and dictatorial way not caring on who they trod over or what methods are used and do so in the most dogmatic way as if they had the patient on insight and knowledge.  

With regards to the other side though, those who reject Christ, reject, God, or any thought of a Deity or Creator, one only has to watch and listen to them speak or read their writings, and the inner disgust, hatred, and anger  oozes out in almost every statement they make.  They are not content in what they believe but they have to go out and proselyte others to their own beliefs and opinions and woe to those who do not acquiesce and change their own minds and their beliefs to match.  They are then the ones being pounded into submission and dismissed by claims that they are delusional and insane or brain-washed.  They are utterly dismissed as fools and discredited if they happen to belong to the Science community for daring to consider that there are things other than what Science can identify and define.

For those who are still wondering about who is right or what is right or just what there is out there other than what we see.  I challenge you to look around (not just at those here) and observe people that claim Christ, Christians, and look at those who reject religion and reject Christ and just observe the way people are as they go through life.  Does it seem that they are happy?  Have a reason to live a full life? Does it appear that they have hope or have dismay, doubts, and are generally unhappy with life?  Are they angry or forgiving and compassionate toward others and how do they interact with those that disagree with them?   

Galatians 5:22-25 (New International Version)
²²  But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
²³  gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law.
²⁴  Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires.
²⁵  Since we live by the Spirit, let us keep in step with the Spirit. 

Bill Nye is like many others who rely upon science to confirm everything to them.  Trouble is Science is sure up and until the next sure thing comes along.  I'm sure at one time, according to Science, the world was flat

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Scientific theory. Look it up. Science is willing to keep searching and keep open minds. You 'god did it' folks minds are closed and won't change, no matter the evidence put out there. Did everyone think the world was flat? Who proved the world wasn't flat? God? The bible? Columbus? Could it have been scientists?

I'm sure at one time, according to Science, the world was flat

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This from someone that thinks religious ideas should be taught in schools.

I must admit that the thought of ceasing to exist is kinda scary. As a matter of fact I find it mind boggling to try and comprehend it as an possible fate. Not from a believers stand point, but from the perspective of a living, breathing, thinking, talking person who is alive.

The thought of death does not make me feel as nutty as it once used to. Unlike Bill the science guy God has given me the gift of faith and hope to believe He will once again make me and all my loved ones alive again. So I cannot blame Bill one bit for the absence of faith. Other wise I think he is a pretty smart guy.

I love science and I can agree with most of what scientists say. Like I believe the universe is at least 13 billion years old because there is just too much evidence that proves this. I also believe dinosaurs once roamed the earth. I mean come one there bones are found everywhere. And the bible does actually mention them. The bible also supports the idea of an old earth which is something like 4.5 billion years old.

Couldn't agree more with his opinion about the indoctrinating of our youth with scientific ignorance. It's kinda lame, but then again all is of God. He sure has His way of pitting us against Him, whether we know it or not, and whether we are a believer or not.

Good stuff Best, thanks for the read.

A scientist will read thousands of books in his lifetime and be sure that he doesn't know everything..

A religious person barely reads one book and is convinced that they know it all.