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"Speak not evil one of another, brethren, he that speaks evil of his brother

and judges his brother speaks evil of the law and judges the law, but if you

judge the law you are not a doer of the law but a judge. There is one lawgiver

that is able to save and to destroy. Who are you that judges another?"

James 4: 11-12

 

"It's possible that we could spend weeks in these two verses." There's an

area of theology here that is so vast and so basic and so essential that I

don't want to...I don't want to belabor the issue but I don't want to rush

through it because I think it's at the very heart, the very ground floor, the

very foundation of how we perceive sin...which is very important.

 

How we perceive sin has a lot to do with how we perceive righteous and

how we perceive obedience and how we perceive ourselves and God

and His law, and so many, many ramifications.

 

There just seem to be more than usual of this going around lately.

Here's the link to the paper

 

http://www.gty.org/Resources/Print/Sermons/59-26

 

 

 

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Vic, my Friend,

 

Just curious.  Do YOU have any idea who wrote that and what he/she believes/teaches?   Or does it just fit your "rambling thought for the day" mindset?

 

It is always a good idea to know the writer -- before you quote that writer.   You may end up inadvertently quoting a Baptist, God forbid!

 

Bless your little heart!

 

Bill

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Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

The forum fool/know it all & the other forum know it all should be here shortly to put you down for this topic & to set us all straight to what those scriptures mean.

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I suspect that you did not read the information in the link Invictus posted. Your attention is called to this particular statementbold emphasis mine);

 

<<<Basically, James is talking about the blasphemous sin of defaming others. The dictionary defines "defamation of character," which is a familiar term in our society, as...and I'm quoting..."an attack on the reputation of someone by publishing falsely and maliciously things that slander and injure." Let me say it again, "defamation of character is an attack on the reputation of someone by publishing falsely and maliciously things that slander and injure.">>>

 

The emphasis here --and it is a heavy enough emphasis that the writer makes it twice--is not on criticizing someone, per se, but on DEFAMATION, "publishing falsely and maliciously things that slander and injure."  "Slander" is false  information that defames.

Correctly recognizing what someone else says or does or teaches and then criticizing them for such is not what is described here.

 

I am not putting down anyone for this topic; Top the contrary, I am, in what I have just written, concurring in it.  I am merely pointing out to you what the information in the cited link says about the cited verses.  The tone of your post suggests that you might have assumed that it had some other meaning. 

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Vic, my Friend,

 

Just curious.  Do YOU have any idea who wrote that and what he/she believes/teaches?   Or does it just fit your "rambling thought for the day" mindset?

 

It is always a good idea to know the writer -- before you quote that writer.   You may end up inadvertently quoting a Baptist, God forbid!

 

Some of the best people I know are Baptist. You aren't one of them.

I know more about what I post than you. You need to stick your snot

nose back op your butt.

 

 

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Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

The forum fool/know it all & the other forum know it all should be here shortly to put you down for this topic & to set us all straight to what those scriptures mean.

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Originally Posted by Contendah:

<<<Basically, James is talking about the blasphemous sin of defaming others.

 

I am not putting down anyone for this topic; 

The tone of your post suggests that you might have assumed that it had some other meaning. 

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I don't need you to tell me what James was talking about.........I'm not stupid! My tone "suggested" nothing, I said what I meant.

And show me exactly where your ID was mentioned. Which one do you believe yourself to be?

The forum fool/know it all or the other forum know it all??????

 
Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Vic, my Friend, 

Just curious.  Do YOU have any idea who wrote that and what he/she believes/teaches?   Or does it just fit your "rambling thought for the day" mindset?

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 Originally Posted by INVICTUS: 

Some of the best people I know are Baptist. You aren't one of them.

I know more about what I post than you. You need to stick your snot

nose back op your butt.

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His nose probably needs a trip to the park.

 

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
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I don't need you to tell me what James was talking about....... ?

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Maybe you don't, but you did need ME to show you  what was actually in the posted link.

 

Try actually replying to this, which is the fundamental point I cited:

 

<<<<<Basically, James is talking about the blasphemous sin of defaming others. The dictionary defines "defamation of character," which is a familiar term in our society, as...and I'm quoting..."an attack on the reputation of someone by publishing falsely and maliciously things that slander and injure." Let me say it again, "defamation of character is an attack on the reputation of someone by publishing falsely and maliciously things that slander and injure."

 

The emphasis here --and it is a heavy enough emphasis that the writer makes it twice--is not on criticizing someone, per se, but on DEFAMATION, "publishing falsely and maliciously things that slander and injure." "Slander" is false  information that defames.

Correctly recognizing what someone else says or does or teaches and then criticizing them for such is not what is described here.>>>>>>

Originally Posted by semiannualchick:

The forum fool/know it all & the other forum know it all should be here shortly to put you down for this topic & to set us all straight to what those scriptures mean.

Put downs are fine, that's all I get even though it's an overall observation

having seen the judgment's and defamation through acts of straight up

spiritual felonies.

 

Defamation is just the end result traceable by way of slander which may as

well be the spoken word. The emphasis is about judgment from a non judge

no matter how a person tries to disguise it.

 

     

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Originally Posted by semiannualchick:
Originally Posted by Contendah:
Maybe you don't, but you did need ME to show you  what was actually in the posted link. 

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Good grief! Get over yourself! I didn't need you to show me anything!!

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Then find someone else to show it to you, since you obviously did not pay any attention to it or you would not have written what you did.

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