ReJoySingRed, sometimes people just have to do what they can to make it. It is very hard to just pick up stakes and move in these days and times, expenses are just too high as it is. People are barely making it, much less others putting pressure on them to go another mile, when they can only afford half a mile.
Only Mark and his wife know what they can afford and what they can do, and we just cannot judge them for what they are doing now to TRY to correct a horrible situation when it would be easy, I mean EASY for the School to rectify it with them.
This could and SHOULD be a joint effort, not just all on Mark and his family. First they get taunted, for YEARS, and then they get told THEY are the ones who have to leave???
My God, just what is this world coming to when a child cannot be safe and taken care of in School... heck, plain old babysitters can do a better job than what I have read here on this board.
You do a great disservice to your name, Kindred Spirit...there are thousands of teachers and administrators who go to work everyday in this area, people who enjoy working with kids and have spent many years in the education field...and many kids are the better for it...I'm in my 28th year as a teacher..wouldn't you think that I would know a little about this subject? A person who has dedicated their lives to helping kids would do their best to keep them safe at school...I don't know why you hold such bitterness toward teaches and administrators but your comments are way off base and I will defend my profession in any debate with a rational person.... so my interaction with you is over...
I want to add that the only added expense we have incurred is a little extra gas money for transporting our daughter to her new school. We did not pick up home & move...just changed schools; however, the added gas expense is actually a "plus" for us...compared to ALL the fees we paid yearly at Brooks, we now have only one fee yearly-P.E. uniform...that's it. A VERY small price to pay for our childs well-being.
quote:Originally posted by elijah1945:
You do a great disservice to your name, Kindred Spirit...there are thousands of teachers and administrators who go to work everyday in this area, people who enjoy working with kids and have spent many years in the education field...and many kids are the better for it...I'm in my 28th year as a teacher..wouldn't you think that I would know a little about this subject? A person who has dedicated their lives to helping kids would do their best to keep them safe at school...I don't know why you hold such bitterness toward teaches and administrators but your comments are way off base and I will defend my profession in any debate with a rational person.... so my interaction with you is over...
Elijah... I am sorry you feel that my "bitterness" was driven to every teacher out in teacherland, which was not the case at all.
My daughter-in-law, which I love dearly is a teacher in florence, and I have numerous friends who are teachers, whom I respect very much.
But, you know what? I have sent this link to them, and they have agreed with me on my comments... BHS handled this situation all wrong, right from the beginning... about 3 years ago, if I read correctly.
If you are a good and caring teacher who not only teaches children, but also watches and protects them from bullying, then I applaud you, but in LOT of instances, that just doesn't happen.
The teachers that's read all the comments on this post has so many stories where their "counterparts" HAVE turned a deaf ear, and a blind eye to things going on... particularly if the bullies were popular, into sports, or came from a family with money. Now these are observations from people who may just work right along side of you. These are comments from teachers who KNOW that this goes on, but are powerless to stop it completely because they do not have the support of the higher powers.
Even TEACHERS think what I think... maybe you should spend a little more time watching what is going on in a childs personal interactions instead of in the classroom.
And besides, if all teachers were as you said they were, there would be NO bullying, NO sexual harassment, and NO problems ... the 'problem' children would be in an alternative school until that student LEARNED how to interact.
There is just so much to be said about this, but I am going to stop here because you aren't going to read this anyway.
I like Brooks...some of you are only looking at the bad parts..I mean sure there is alot of bad parts but there is alot more good then you think...sure 7th and 8th grade were ahrd..but once you get to the actual high school it will be the best time of your life
quote:Originally posted by Knucklehead17:
(b) The principal shall notify appropriate law enforcement officials when any person violates local board of education policies concerning drugs, alcohol, weapons, physical harm to a person, or threatened physical harm to a person. or threatened physical harm to a person. If any criminal charge is warranted arising from the conduct, the principal is authorized to sign the appropriate warrant. If that person is a student enrolled in any public school in the State of Alabama, the local school system shall immediately suspend that person from attending regular classes and schedule a hearing at the earliest possible date, which shall not be later than five school days. The decision to suspend or initiate criminal charges against a student, or both, shall include a review and consideration of the student's exceptional status, if applicable, under Chapter 39, or appropriate federal statutory or case law.
Why is the school board not following this policy? This Alabama Code here. It is spelled out, there is no room for interpretation.
I've posted the link to this code twice and keep asking - has the one(s) complaining spoke directly to a Laud. Co. Board of Ed. member in a sit down meeting?
I still think it is important to know if it took going to the media if it wasn't taken to the top first.
If it was then the admins are responsible for following this code and going to the media was justified imho.
If it wasn't then this whole thing smells fishy to me.
IMHO <--- the one with the ORIGINAL waving US flag with no pole
quote:Originally posted by lookn2it:quote:Originally posted by imho:quote:Originally posted by _Joy_:
lookn2it...And what would you teach your child? You think he or she won't face adversity when they get in the real world? Somebody harrassing you at work? Let's see, how did Mom teach me to handle situations like these? Don't press charges and hold them accountable for their behavior. Leave the job you worked hard for because God forbid you stand up for yourself.
NO, she should not leave her school and NO, she should not be silent. She and her family should use every legal means at their fingertips to claim her rights. I would imagine the teachers and administrators at Brooks AGREE WITH THAT and are applauding their efforts because it is helping them discipline children that quite obviously need some discipline.
Like I said, I don't need to know who did what and when they did it. Vandalism and death threats warrant discipline.
I AM NOT ONE TO BACK DOWN FROM AN ARGUMENT OR A FIGHT, JOY. WHAT I AM SAYING THAT IF THERE IS ENOUGH PHYSICAL AND MENTAL ABUSE AND THERE IS A TRUE DEATH THREAT THAT THE CHILD IS ACTUALLY SCARED TO GO TO SCHOOL AND THAT YOU ARE BRINGING IN THE MEDIA TO SHED LIGHT ON THE SITUATION. PUT HER FIRST TAKE HER OUT OF DANGER AND THEN STAND YOUR GROUND. DON'T EVEN THINK FOR ONE MINUTE I AM SAYING DON'T PURSUE IT LEGALLY. BUT ARE YOU TELLING ME IF YOU ACTUALLY THINK SOMEONE IS GOING TO SLIT YOUR CHILD'S THROAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEND THEM BACK TO BE ATTACKED! GIVE ME SOME CREDIT AS A FELLOW PARENT, I WOULD HOLLER, SCREAM, PITCH FIT AFTER FIT ON TOP OF WHOEVER'S DESK I WOULD HAVE TO PURSUE JUSTICE IN THE SITUATION, BUT IF YOU ARE ASKING IF I WOULD CONTINUE TO PUT MY CHILD IN HARM'S WAY FOR ME TO MAKE A FRIGGIN' POINT YOU'RE NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ah, this explains the following comment you made about me on another thread.
Originally posted by lookn2it: I'm fairly new to this board and after reading alot from Joy...I would have to agree. If she/he is "joy" I would hate to see pissed.
I wondered where this was coming from. First of all, I should not have directed my vehemence regarding 'standing up for yourself' at you. I apologize. I should have simply stated how I felt about it and not been a smart aleck. Sorry about that. This thread seems to have brought the fire out of everyone. I will attempt to not let my passion about a subject turn me into an ogre next time.
quote:Originally posted by _Joy_:quote:Originally posted by lookn2it:quote:Originally posted by imho:quote:Originally posted by _Joy_:
lookn2it...And what would you teach your child? You think he or she won't face adversity when they get in the real world? Somebody harrassing you at work? Let's see, how did Mom teach me to handle situations like these? Don't press charges and hold them accountable for their behavior. Leave the job you worked hard for because God forbid you stand up for yourself.
NO, she should not leave her school and NO, she should not be silent. She and her family should use every legal means at their fingertips to claim her rights. I would imagine the teachers and administrators at Brooks AGREE WITH THAT and are applauding their efforts because it is helping them discipline children that quite obviously need some discipline.
Like I said, I don't need to know who did what and when they did it. Vandalism and death threats warrant discipline.
EXACTLY, I AM NOT ONE TO BACK DOWN FROM AN ARGUMENT OR A FIGHT, JOY. WHAT I AM SAYING THAT IF THERE IS ENOUGH PHYSICAL AND MENTAL ABUSE AND THERE IS A TRUE DEATH THREAT THAT THE CHILD IS ACTUALLY SCARED TO GO TO SCHOOL AND THAT YOU ARE BRINGING IN THE MEDIA TO SHED LIGHT ON THE SITUATION. PUT HER FIRST TAKE HER OUT OF DANGER AND THEN STAND YOUR GROUND. DON'T EVEN THINK FOR ONE MINUTE I AM SAYING DON'T PURSUE IT LEGALLY. BUT ARE YOU TELLING ME IF YOU ACTUALLY THINK SOMEONE IS GOING TO SLIT YOUR CHILD'S THROAT YOU ARE GOING TO SEND THEM BACK TO BE ATTACKED! GIVE ME SOME CREDIT AS A FELLOW PARENT, I WOULD HOLLER, SCREAM, PITCH FIT AFTER FIT ON TOP OF WHOEVER'S DESK I WOULD HAVE TO PURSUE JUSTICE IN THE SITUATION, BUT IF YOU ARE ASKING IF I WOULD CONTINUE TO PUT MY CHILD IN HARM'S WAY FOR ME TO MAKE A FRIGGIN' POINT YOU'RE NUTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ah, this explains the following comment you made about me on another thread.
quote:
Originally posted by lookn2it:
I'm fairly new to this board and after reading alot from Joy...I would have to agree. If she/he is "joy" I would hate to see pissed. Big Grin
I wondered where this was coming from. First of all, I should not have directed my vehemence regarding 'standing up for yourself' at you. I apologize. I should have simply stated how I felt about it and not been a smart aleck. Sorry about that. This thread seems to have brought the fire out of everyone. I will attempt to not let my passion about a subject turn me into an ogre next time.
Don't worry Joy... most of us regulars love hearing your opinions, and you DO bring "JOY" to this Forum... Hold your head high, you are one of the good'uns!!!
quote:Originally posted by lookn2it:quote:Originally posted by ReJoySingRed:
Voiceover... Are you more concerned with "added expense" for transferring your daughter to another school than you are with what may be a resolve & perhaps what may be better for her? This entire situation must be humiliating & un-nerving to her; to say the least. My husband & I had several issues with a particular teacher at Brooks High last year; after contacting the school in person 4 times & via phone 2 times, we contacted the Board...to no resolve, I might add. Her self-esteem dropped along with her grades. She felt she had no self-worth -after being told her "parents were "stupid" for not leaving Vaderbilt Hosp. to pick up her home work & make up work". Our daughter was in the hospital for 8 days. It was an Emergency room admission. Without quetion, it was in our daughters best interest for us to do what we felt would restore what had been taken from her; NO matter what we had to sacrifice. High school has a huge impact on our children. It is a major stepping stone to prepare them for the rest of their lives. She now attend school out of our district & to us it is a minor sacrifice...one worth everything to us. It was the best move we've made. She is on Honor Roll, loves school now, has no problem with any of her teachers & is more confident now than ever. I just try to think of what is best for the child involved in whatever the situation may be. Will your daughter continue to be tormented at Brooks if & when her situation is resolved? This entire thing is without doubt affecting her in some way & will it impact her life in a positive or negative way? I pray that this all comes to an end soon & that Ashley can move on without further problems & disrespect from others.
Very Well Put, ReJoySingRed.
Well put ReJoysing... I can agree to a point with taking the child out of harms way.... but what happens to all the other kidlets at that school that is being mean? Do they get to do a "high-five" for running this child off?
Or is the school actually going to hold them responsible for all the harassment they have been doing?
I would be curious to know that answer... one CAN remove one's child from a bad situation, but I have seen it give the Bully's even MORE power to find their next victims...
Thanks, KS...back at you.
I graduated from Brooks in the 80's and it saddens me to read what is happening there. Coach Hill was our principal, and it was like Moses parting the Red Sea when he would walk down the hall. We respected him (or feared him, depending on how much trouble you got in to) and the faculty at BHS. The "in" girl-crowd (I can't speak for the boys) was popular for a very different reason than nowadays. If you were in cheerleading/majorette/sports, you were held to a much higher level of accountability. Any rumors of drinking/fighting or otherwise "bad" behavior and you were kicked off the squad. If you went to a wild party, you could be kicked off. I saw it happen. My mom taught at Brooks for a few years before she retired and could not believe the difference from when her kids went there. Not just with the administration, but with the children and parents, as well. I think a weak administration, apathetic teachers (not all, but there are some; and the teachers who do care are mad as hell about them), lazy parents and undisciplined, entitlement-minded children have created the "Tipping Point" that gives us the results of our schools today. Teachers and administrators are tired of hearing "I'll Sue!!" , so they are teaching with a CYA mentality, much like doctors practice medicine.
and for imho:
Before my mom came to BHS, she was at another Lauderdale Co. school. There she was harrassed and threatened with her life by a student. She took it to the School Board and they did nothing- until my dad threatened to sue them if one hair on her head was harmed. It was disgusting that it took the threat of litigation to get some action from them. Even then their solution was a little more than a slap on the wrist. The people on the School Board are ELECTED officials and depend on their "popularity" to be re-elected. I would be surprised to see if any help comes from them voluntarily, but I'll continue to hope.
I have kids in Middle and High school now and have seen first hand the bullying that goes on at school. I'm also a former teacher and realized you can't be everywhere all the time. But from what I've read, it looks like someone was turning a blind eye to what was going on in the hopes that it would all work itself out.
and for imho:
Before my mom came to BHS, she was at another Lauderdale Co. school. There she was harrassed and threatened with her life by a student. She took it to the School Board and they did nothing- until my dad threatened to sue them if one hair on her head was harmed. It was disgusting that it took the threat of litigation to get some action from them. Even then their solution was a little more than a slap on the wrist. The people on the School Board are ELECTED officials and depend on their "popularity" to be re-elected. I would be surprised to see if any help comes from them voluntarily, but I'll continue to hope.
I have kids in Middle and High school now and have seen first hand the bullying that goes on at school. I'm also a former teacher and realized you can't be everywhere all the time. But from what I've read, it looks like someone was turning a blind eye to what was going on in the hopes that it would all work itself out.
quote:Originally posted by cspearman:
and for imho:
Before my mom came to BHS, she was at another Lauderdale Co. school. There she was harrassed and threatened with her life by a student. She took it to the School Board and they did nothing- until my dad threatened to sue them if one hair on her head was harmed. It was disgusting that it took the threat of litigation to get some action from them. Even then their solution was a little more than a slap on the wrist. The people on the School Board are ELECTED officials and depend on their "popularity" to be re-elected. I would be surprised to see if any help comes from them voluntarily, but I'll continue to hope.
...it looks like someone was turning a blind eye to what was going on in the hopes that it would all work itself out.
This is the kind of info I want to know - I thin k we all need to know.
If the Laud. Co. BOE is having people come to them with this and doing nothing (unless threatened with litigation) then YES - going to the media was sensible.
My point has been that it is in black and white what they are suppose to do. If they don't do it then they should answer for the problems.
People with ties to Brooks, past, future and present need to give the board a call and ask how they are going to address increased instances of bullying, cliques, etc. within their schools. Refer them to this website. If they want to think these are isolated instances maybe they should start adding them up.
quote:TimesDaily.com Forums Forums Your Discussions News Brooks High School incident
I am the coach that Mr. Peeples is referring to regarding the ejection of his wife and himself from the Brooks Youth Cheerleading association. Mr. Peeples has made slanderous, untrue statements regarding me and my character in his post. During this incident, I followed the instructions of the board that "under no circumstance was Ashley to cheer" before the Peeples met with the board. I tried to present this information sensitively (hence his referral to my cheerful attitude) in hopes that they could resolve it. Both Mark and Monica Peeples began immediately verbally attacking me, stating that I had a vendetta against their child--I did not and had never had any issues with Ashley or her behavior-- with Mrs.Peeples physically hitting me on the arm several times and Mr. Peeples putting his finger in my face and both of them screaming profanity at me, at which point I told them they would need to leave the field or be escorted off by the police. This only escalated their behavior. And yes, Coach Beavers (who was coaching one of the youth football teams that day) did witness the entire event, as well as an officer with the Florence City Police Department and other parents who were horrified over the Peeples' behavior toward me. Also, it was during our jamboree, which fell on Thursday, not Saturday as our normal games did. Too many coaches have been injured or murdered in recent years for parents not to expect threatening behavior to be handled any less than with swift resolution and accountibility. Unfortunately, this situation could not be resolved in a way that did not effect Ashley because the Peeples' escalated behavior on the field in front of the other children led the BOARD to make the decision to ban the Peeples from all future activities. I supported the board's decision and felt they handled it with much concern and consideration, with heavy hearts that a child was to be affected due to her parent's actions. My actions had nothing to do with ego and every thing to do with protection of my squad and myself in what I deemed to be immediate danger. It did turn out that the Peeples had paid their fees and the board had not been able to rescind their directions to me before this occured, something that could have been resolved in a conversation had it been allowed before the assault on me at the field. It was upon the recommendation of the board president and Killen police officer that answered the call that I made a formal report on this incident. I, however, was only the coach and did not have the authority to decide whether Ashley could cheer or not over fees or otherwise. As for the incident Mr. Peeples refers to as my distrubtion of any board meetings, this is slanderous and untrue. No such incident ever occured. I will hold Mr. Peeples or any one else accountable for publishing false and slanderous information concerning me. I regret that Mr. Peeples felt the need to do so on this occasion in this forum. I have it documented and will continue to document it if it does not cease immediately.
quote:Originally posted by mcbride74:quote:TimesDaily.com Forums Forums Your Discussions News Brooks High School incident
I am the coach that Mr. Peeples is referring to regarding the ejection of his wife and himself from the Brooks Youth Cheerleading association. ...I followed the instructions of the board that "under no circumstance was Ashley to cheer" before the Peeples met with the board.
...led the BOARD to make the decision to ban the Peeples from all future activities.
...I supported the board's decision
...the board had not been able to rescind their directions to me
...the recommendation of the board president
...my distrubtion of any board meetings
1) As in earlier posts I made - Is this all about cheerleading? I've heard it is "dog eat dog" at Brooks with many of those in Cheerleading.
2) Is this "board" you refer to a "cheerleading board" and not the Board of Education. This needs clarification.
GET A GRIP parents! These are 12 year old cheerleaders and it ain't the tryouts for the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders - but you would think so!
I have to say if everyone that has been involved in this from the Peeples to the other girls (and their parents) would get out of bed on Sunday morning and get to church you might all see there are bigger things in life than your status as a cheerleader or a parent of one.
My heart goes out to Ashley (a 12 year-old) that has girls threatening her, her parents threatening others, her name slung around like Britney Spears, and when all is said and done NO ONE WINS A THING! We all lose! GROW UP!
Good Night and God Bless.
AMEN to that, imho!!! I wonder how many of these parents are living a little too vicariously through their kids?
quote:1) As in earlier posts I made - Is this all about cheerleading? I've heard it is "dog eat dog" at Brooks with many of those in Cheerleading.
As I stated, I am not responding to this post except to clarify the false accusations Mr. Peeples made against me personally herein. Thank you.
quote:Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:quote:Originally posted by lookn2it:quote:Originally posted by ReJoySingRed:
Voiceover... Are you more concerned with "added expense" for transferring your daughter to another school than you are with what may be a resolve & perhaps what may be better for her? This entire situation must be humiliating & un-nerving to her; to say the least. My husband & I had several issues with a particular teacher at Brooks High last year; after contacting the school in person 4 times & via phone 2 times, we contacted the Board...to no resolve, I might add. Her self-esteem dropped along with her grades. She felt she had no self-worth -after being told her "parents were "stupid" for not leaving Vaderbilt Hosp. to pick up her home work & make up work". Our daughter was in the hospital for 8 days. It was an Emergency room admission. Without quetion, it was in our daughters best interest for us to do what we felt would restore what had been taken from her; NO matter what we had to sacrifice. High school has a huge impact on our children. It is a major stepping stone to prepare them for the rest of their lives. She now attend school out of our district & to us it is a minor sacrifice...one worth everything to us. It was the best move we've made. She is on Honor Roll, loves school now, has no problem with any of her teachers & is more confident now than ever. I just try to think of what is best for the child involved in whatever the situation may be. Will your daughter continue to be tormented at Brooks if & when her situation is resolved? This entire thing is without doubt affecting her in some way & will it impact her life in a positive or negative way? I pray that this all comes to an end soon & that Ashley can move on without further problems & disrespect from others.
Very Well Put, ReJoySingRed.
Well put ReJoysing... I can agree to a point with taking the child out of harms way.... but what happens to all the other kidlets at that school that is being mean? Do they get to do a "high-five" for running this child off?
Or is the school actually going to hold them responsible for all the harassment they have been doing?
I would be curious to know that answer... one CAN remove one's child from a bad situation, but I have seen it give the Bully's even MORE power to find their next victims...
I am not stating that this should or will come to a screaching halt; Ashley should be removed from Brooks & relocated FIRST & then her parents can pursue whatever they feel to resolve this situation & prevent it from EVER occuring again to any other child. From what we have experience with the Board of Lauderdale County, this could very well be a long, drawn out process. Protect first & then prevent.
And we have more info now,this thing is unreal from all positions.
has anyone contacted The Jerry Springer Show?
has anyone contacted The Jerry Springer Show?
[QUOTE]Originally posted by mandomama:
I graduated from Brooks in the 80's and it saddens me to read what is happening there. Coach Hill was our principal, and it was like Moses parting the Red Sea when he would walk down the hall. We respected him (or feared him, depending on how much trouble you got in to) and the faculty at BHS.
This is exactly my feeling about Coach Hill. I had posted earlier in the thread about the way it was way back in the 80's.
to the veteran posters::
is there some kind of instant messaging on here since we aren't supposed to put our contact information?
I graduated from Brooks in the 80's and it saddens me to read what is happening there. Coach Hill was our principal, and it was like Moses parting the Red Sea when he would walk down the hall. We respected him (or feared him, depending on how much trouble you got in to) and the faculty at BHS.
This is exactly my feeling about Coach Hill. I had posted earlier in the thread about the way it was way back in the 80's.
to the veteran posters::
is there some kind of instant messaging on here since we aren't supposed to put our contact information?
They let Jerry Hill do the coin tosss at the D2 Championship in honor of his father yesterday!
quote:Originally posted by HomesickGirl:
to the veteran posters::
is there some kind of instant messaging on here since we aren't supposed to put our contact information?
At top of screen under new - then click private message and choose nickname of person you want to pm. If it doesn't work, that person may have chosen to not receive private messages.
quote:Originally posted by imho:quote:Originally posted by mcbride74:quote:TimesDaily.com Forums Forums Your Discussions News Brooks High School incident
I am the coach that Mr. Peeples is referring to regarding the ejection of his wife and himself from the Brooks Youth Cheerleading association. ...I followed the instructions of the board that "under no circumstance was Ashley to cheer" before the Peeples met with the board.
...led the BOARD to make the decision to ban the Peeples from all future activities.
...I supported the board's decision
...the board had not been able to rescind their directions to me
...the recommendation of the board president
...my distrubtion of any board meetings
1) As in earlier posts I made - Is this all about cheerleading? I've heard it is "dog eat dog" at Brooks with many of those in Cheerleading.
2) Is this "board" you refer to a "cheerleading board" and not the Board of Education. This needs clarification.
GET A GRIP parents! These are 12 year old cheerleaders and it ain't the tryouts for the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders - but you would think so!
I have to say if everyone that has been involved in this from the Peeples to the other girls (and their parents) would get out of bed on Sunday morning and get to church you might all see there are bigger things in life than your status as a cheerleader or a parent of one.
My heart goes out to Ashley (a 12 year-old) that has girls threatening her, her parents threatening others, her name slung around like Britney Spears, and when all is said and done NO ONE WINS A THING! We all lose! GROW UP!
Good Night and God Bless.
YYYYAAAAAAYYYYY IMHO!!!!! VERY WELL SAID!!!
And to MR MCBRIDE, it took almost a week to get your guys story straight enough for you to come on this board and flame a child?????? Your entire comment just re-enforced to me that BHS is at fault here, and now I am hoping the Peeples get EVERYTHING they deserve through a court of law.
School officials: How many meetings did it take this week, huh? You ALL get your stories straight??? Had to figure out ways to discredit the parents of a 12 year old child? The Schools now aiding in making parents LOOK bad to their children????
Wow ... I tell you one thing, I am thankful all my kids are grown and married, and I am thankful even more that my kids did NOT have to be subjected to BHS.
Frankly, Coach, I dont think you are doing the right thing now by coming here.
TWO WRONGS never ever make a right... and to be involved in destroying Ashley's parents reputation, which virtually destroys the child, meand someone is protecting someone ELSE.
I pray you go to Church, say your prayers and actually do the RIGHT thing, not the "Politically correct" thing.
This is just a horrid situation and I think any official from Brooks could have straightened it out a long time ago... after all, it has been going on THREE years, and you are just now speaking out.
Something is wrong with this picture and with your comment.
quote:Originally posted by mandomama:
I graduated from Brooks in the 80's and it saddens me to read what is happening there. Coach Hill was our principal, and it was like Moses parting the Red Sea when he would walk down the hall. We respected him (or feared him, depending on how much trouble you got in to) and the faculty at BHS. The "in" girl-crowd (I can't speak for the boys) was popular for a very different reason than nowadays. If you were in cheerleading/majorette/sports, you were held to a much higher level of accountability. Any rumors of drinking/fighting or otherwise "bad" behavior and you were kicked off the squad. If you went to a wild party, you could be kicked off. I saw it happen. My mom taught at Brooks for a few years before she retired and could not believe the difference from when her kids went there. Not just with the administration, but with the children and parents, as well. I think a weak administration, apathetic teachers (not all, but there are some; and the teachers who do care are mad as hell about them), lazy parents and undisciplined, entitlement-minded children have created the "Tipping Point" that gives us the results of our schools today. Teachers and administrators are tired of hearing "I'll Sue!!" , so they are teaching with a CYA mentality, much like doctors practice medicine.
Before my mom came to BHS, she was at another Lauderdale Co. school. There she was harrassed and threatened with her life by a student. She took it to the School Board and they did nothing- until my dad threatened to sue them if one hair on her head was harmed. It was disgusting that it took the threat of litigation to get some action from them. Even then their solution was a little more than a slap on the wrist. The people on the School Board are ELECTED officials and depend on their "popularity" to be re-elected. I would be surprised to see if any help comes from them voluntarily, but I'll continue to hope.
I have kids in Middle and High school now and have seen first hand the bullying that goes on at school. I'm also a former teacher and realized you can't be everywhere all the time. But from what I've read, it looks like someone was turning a blind eye to what was going on in the hopes that it would all work itself out.
Wow, fear of Principals, respect for teachers, cheerleaders and majorettes held to a higher standard... Nice huh????
It is extrememly SAD to hear your Dad had to threaten litigation against a school board to get anything done... it is SAD that the ELECTED officials were so afraid of stepping on toes of the popular than protecting the life of an Employee. So it also brings to MY mind that this thing with Ashley isn't isolated, it is going on around every school, including BHS...
I am in awe at what is going on in our very own area.... Be popular, go ahead, and when you have to "reap what you sow" then take what you deserve.... Isn't that what our Church Leaders say????
I don't live in the Shoals any more. Did Coach Hill pass away? Yo Brotha said they let his son do a coin toss in his honor. I can't believe nobody told me!!
quote:Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:quote:Originally posted by imho:quote:Originally posted by mcbride74:quote:TimesDaily.com Forums Forums Your Discussions News Brooks High School incident
I am the coach that Mr. Peeples is referring to regarding the ejection of his wife and himself from the Brooks Youth Cheerleading association. ...I followed the instructions of the board that "under no circumstance was Ashley to cheer" before the Peeples met with the board.
...led the BOARD to make the decision to ban the Peeples from all future activities.
...I supported the board's decision
...the board had not been able to rescind their directions to me
...the recommendation of the board president
...my distrubtion of any board meetings
1) As in earlier posts I made - Is this all about cheerleading? I've heard it is "dog eat dog" at Brooks with many of those in Cheerleading.
2) Is this "board" you refer to a "cheerleading board" and not the Board of Education. This needs clarification.
GET A GRIP parents! These are 12 year old cheerleaders and it ain't the tryouts for the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders - but you would think so!
I have to say if everyone that has been involved in this from the Peeples to the other girls (and their parents) would get out of bed on Sunday morning and get to church you might all see there are bigger things in life than your status as a cheerleader or a parent of one.
My heart goes out to Ashley (a 12 year-old) that has girls threatening her, her parents threatening others, her name slung around like Britney Spears, and when all is said and done NO ONE WINS A THING! We all lose! GROW UP!
Good Night and God Bless.
YYYYAAAAAAYYYYY IMHO!!!!! VERY WELL SAID!!!
And to MR MCBRIDE, it took almost a week to get your guys story straight enough for you to come on this board and flame a child?????? Your entire comment just re-enforced to me that BHS is at fault here, and now I am hoping the Peeples get EVERYTHING they deserve through a court of law.
School officials: How many meetings did it take this week, huh? You ALL get your stories straight??? Had to figure out ways to discredit the parents of a 12 year old child? The Schools now aiding in making parents LOOK bad to their children????
Wow ... I tell you one thing, I am thankful all my kids are grown and married, and I am thankful even more that my kids did NOT have to be subjected to BHS.
Frankly, Coach, I dont think you are doing the right thing now by coming here.
TWO WRONGS never ever make a right... and to be involved in destroying Ashley's parents reputation, which virtually destroys the child, meand someone is protecting someone ELSE.
I pray you go to Church, say your prayers and actually do the RIGHT thing, not the "Politically correct" thing.
This is just a horrid situation and I think any official from Brooks could have straightened it out a long time ago... after all, it has been going on THREE years, and you are just now speaking out.
Something is wrong with this picture and with your comment.
Apparently you missed the part where I said I was simply responding to deflamatory, untrue comments made directly against me by Mr. Peeples in a post in this forum. It is a response, not a "story" that I just brought up after what you state is a term of "almost three years."
But since you've decided to address me I will respond. The very thing we are saying we should hold our children accountable for seems to not apply to a large part of the comments by adults in this forum. Apparently, undisciplined name-calling is OK if you are making a point in a forum. Why is anyone who makes an statement to their positive experience at BHS is suddenly "in a click" or attempting to do the "politically correct" thing?
I cannot account for the Peeples experience, only my own. I am grateful to the staff and administration of Brooks High School for the wonderful job they do day in and day out. The teachers, coaches and principals pay close attention to the students and their activities. My daughter is receiving a quality education and is in an environment that allows her to grow and become a productive adult. That is my experience with Brooks High School. So feel free to call me names and "bully" me for stating it. And if you want to address me, do so correctly. It is MRS. McBride.
This is purely an objective opinion, which you can throw right out the door if you want, no problem. Why don't all the parents, coaches, teachers, administrators all sit down together and calmly work out a solution? Instead of working against one another, why not work together for the sake of the kids you all care about? It's easy to get worked up on here because no one knows who you are (well some of you), but at least think about letting go of anger and find common ground. Find what you have in common...a love for the kids and then work towards a solution. A non-biased mediator (peacemaker) would be essential of course.
This would also be a great example for the kids on how to deal with anger and conflict.
This would also be a great example for the kids on how to deal with anger and conflict.
quote:Originally posted by _Joy_:
This is purely an objective opinion, which you can throw right out the door if you want, no problem. Why don't all the parents, coaches, teachers, administrators all sit down together and calmly work out a solution? Instead of working against one another, why not work together for the sake of the kids you all care about? It's easy to get worked up on here because no one knows who you are (well some of you), but at least think about letting go of anger and find common ground. Find what you have in common...a love for the kids and then work towards a solution. A non-biased mediator (peacemaker) would be essential of course.
This would also be a great example for the kids on how to deal with anger and conflict.
Joy, this is an excellent suggestion. Although we are not involved in the current situation, and did not wish to be brought into it, I believe that your solution is one that should be considered and carried out. It would certainly be a blessing if something good would come of all of this. God Bless all.
might I suggest Kindred Spirit as the mediator......
quote:Apparently you missed the part where I said I was simply responding to deflamatory, untrue comments made directly against me by Mr. Peeples in a post in this forum. It is a response, not a "story" that I just brought up after what you state is a term of "almost three years."
But since you've decided to address me I will respond. The very thing we are saying we should hold our children accountable for seems to not apply to a large part of the comments by adults in this forum. Apparently, undisciplined name-calling is OK if you are making a point in a forum. Why is anyone who makes an statement to their positive experience at BHS is suddenly "in a click" or attempting to do the "politically correct" thing?
I cannot account for the Peeples experience, only my own. I am grateful to the staff and administration of Brooks High School for the wonderful job they do day in and day out. The teachers, coaches and principals pay close attention to the students and their activities. My daughter is receiving a quality education and is in an environment that allows her to grow and become a productive adult. That is my experience with Brooks High School. So feel free to call me names and "bully" me for stating it. And if you want to address me, do so correctly. It is MRS. McBride.
You will find that kindred_spirit is just another holier than thou flaming hypocrite.
quote:Originally posted by _Joy_:
This is purely an objective opinion, which you can throw right out the door if you want, no problem. Why don't all the parents, coaches, teachers, administrators all sit down together and calmly work out a solution? Instead of working against one another, why not work together for the sake of the kids you all care about? It's easy to get worked up on here because no one knows who you are (well some of you), but at least think about letting go of anger and find common ground. Find what you have in common...a love for the kids and then work towards a solution. A non-biased mediator (peacemaker) would be essential of course.
This would also be a great example for the kids on how to deal with anger and conflict.
Some people will think how lame this idea is - but anyone not willing to do it IS the problem.
I have it on good accord that this is primarily a cheerleading clique at Brooks and that many of the parents and girls are guilty of things posted here.
I stand behind an earlier post I made - if the primary problem is with those in the cheerleading program then school admins should make a ultimatum - either work it out among yourselves (parents, kids, and coaches) or shut down the program.
quote:Originally posted by elijah1945:
might I suggest Kindred Spirit as the mediator......
I think it would have to be someone with no prior knowledge of any of the incidents mentioned on this forum as well as someone with experience in mediating. No offense to KS.
I think the mediator shouldn't be a liar...what do you think Joy?
quote:Originally posted by _Joy_:quote:Originally posted by elijah1945:
might I suggest Kindred Spirit as the mediator......
I think it would have to be someone with no prior knowledge of any of the incidents mentioned on this forum as well as someone with experience in mediating. No offense to KS.
Maybe Jesse Jackson or Jimmy Carter?
Just trying to lighten the mood
In this season of Christmas, and with the school break coming up, why don't cooler heads prevail and all of you involved make a New Year's resolution to work this out for your kids and your school.
The days will slip by and your status in Jr. High and High School will mean very little in this world we live in.
quote:Originally posted by imho:
Maybe Jesse Jackson or Jimmy Carter?
Just trying to lighten the mood
LOL
Surely it hasn't come to that!
I don't know, if Jimmy would parch everybody some peanuts, it'd be a step towards a smile anyway.
quote:Originally posted by elijah1945:
might I suggest Kindred Spirit as the mediator......
Elijah, leave me out of your snide, juvenile comments. If you have constructive things to say, I will listen, but just throwing childish insults out will get you no where.
Mr. MCBride, I agree with Joy, I think the entire faculty needs to hash this out, and maybe then we can leave BHS alone on this Forum, I think that most of us who commented here was doing so because they, as well as myself, just couldnt understand the 'school' not doing anything to help this situation.
CASE IN POINT: Elijah has decided to be "my" bully on here, because I disagreed with him about something. Am I going to back down? Heck no... Am I going to try to handle it correctly, absolutely.
Elijah, don't know exactly what I said that ruined your Cheerio's, but whatever it is, we now have Private Messaging, maybe you can enlighten me?
quote:Originally posted by _Joy_:quote:Originally posted by elijah1945:
might I suggest Kindred Spirit as the mediator......
I think it would have to be someone with no prior knowledge of any of the incidents mentioned on this forum as well as someone with experience in mediating. No offense to KS.
No offense taken, Joy... School systems have to be very careful, and I am sure there are people in the profession that can do the job. My particular style of Mediation, that I HAVE been trained on, and HAVE had over 10 years experience with, doesn't include children battles....
So, no offense taken anywhere...
quote:Originally posted by Mott The Hoople:quote:Apparently you missed the part where I said I was simply responding to deflamatory, untrue comments made directly against me by Mr. Peeples in a post in this forum. It is a response, not a "story" that I just brought up after what you state is a term of "almost three years."
But since you've decided to address me I will respond. The very thing we are saying we should hold our children accountable for seems to not apply to a large part of the comments by adults in this forum. Apparently, undisciplined name-calling is OK if you are making a point in a forum. Why is anyone who makes an statement to their positive experience at BHS is suddenly "in a click" or attempting to do the "politically correct" thing?
I cannot account for the Peeples experience, only my own. I am grateful to the staff and administration of Brooks High School for the wonderful job they do day in and day out. The teachers, coaches and principals pay close attention to the students and their activities. My daughter is receiving a quality education and is in an environment that allows her to grow and become a productive adult. That is my experience with Brooks High School. So feel free to call me names and "bully" me for stating it. And if you want to address me, do so correctly. It is MRS. McBride.
You will find that kindred_spirit is just another holier than thou flaming hypocrite.
LOLOLOLOL!!! I am not an Avatar Thief though!!! hahhahahahaha
quote:Originally posted by Mott The Hoople:
I think the mediator shouldn't be a liar...what do you think Joy?
So Mott, you and Joy think I am a liar now? I have never said anything on these boards that I cannot prove in person. And if the Moderator on this sites wants to Clarify that, then I would be happy to share.
Now, if you two are in some sort of conspiracy, (since Mott brought you into it Joy, I have no choice but to include you, sorry)... to prove me a liar, or to call me out, then by all means, please do it TO MY FACE instead of behind my back.
Snide comments only confuses me, it confuses the forum and isnt fair to anyone reading the posts...
Please, out with it, lets clear the air?
Excuse me, everyone... I had this confused with a FORUM that everyone could come on and voice opinions without worry of being called names behind ones back. NEVER have I talked to anyone on here, about anyone else on here....
Unless you want to count AM, when I asked about getting ISP's for people to PROVE that they are who they say they are, and the accusations about that would stop. But that was another thread....... another day....... another time.... Care to enlighten me on what is going on this time?
Unless you want to count AM, when I asked about getting ISP's for people to PROVE that they are who they say they are, and the accusations about that would stop. But that was another thread....... another day....... another time.... Care to enlighten me on what is going on this time?
quote:Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:quote:Originally posted by Mott The Hoople:
I think the mediator shouldn't be a liar...what do you think Joy?
So Mott, you and Joy think I am a liar now? I have never said anything on these boards that I cannot prove in person. And if the Moderator on this sites wants to Clarify that, then I would be happy to share.
Now, if you two are in some sort of conspiracy, (since Mott brought you into it Joy, I have no choice but to include you, sorry)... to prove me a liar, or to call me out, then by all means, please do it TO MY FACE instead of behind my back.
Snide comments only confuses me, it confuses the forum and isnt fair to anyone reading the posts...
Please, out with it, lets clear the air?
Kindred, I have him blocked & I don't accept private messages. I didn't know he made that comment until you posted it. Yes, you can leave me out of it because I have nothing to do with it. If you IGNORE him, he'll find a new playground. I don't why and don't care why he likes to stir up trouble, but you are giving him exactly what he is after. I will say, there are times that the ignore feature doesn't work for whatever reason, but it usually does. I think TD are still working on the system. I've had numerous problems the last few days.