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You're not going to believe what you've been eating the last few years (thanks, Bush! thanks meat industry lobbyists!) when you eat a McDonald's burger (or the hamburger patties in kids' school lunches) or buy conventional ground meat at your supermarket:

According to today's New York Times, The "majority of hamburger" now sold in the U.S. now contains fatty slaughterhouse trimmings "the industry once relegated to pet food and cooking oil," "typically including most of the material from the outer surfaces of the carcass" that contains "larger microbiological populations."

Read more and cringe!

http://www.alternet.org/enviro...ost_u.s._ground_beef

One way to avoid this, insofar as ground beef in home cooking is concerned, is to buy a good cut of beef and have your in-store butcher grind it up for you. That way, you will get BETTER beef and none of that ammoniacal slime the lowlife lords of industry want to foist off on you.

Meanwhile, you should rent the documentary, "Food, Inc." and learn more about the bizarre, profiteering, unhealthy practices of the food and agriculture industries in this lobbied-to-death, fast-food, bad-food nation.

Link: http://www.foodincmovie.com/about-the-film.php
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I have been grinding my own beef since 1990 when my husand had heart surgery. Buy a food processor, use it until you wear it out,and then buy a new one! Many teachers have avoided ground beef dishes in school lunchrooms for years. I also call the bulk ground beef 'meat from 1000 cows'! Very, very seldom do I eat fast food.
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Originally posted by Jobe:
Don’t put any faith in anything altered net has to say nor some people trying to make money on a film they created.


And don't put any faith in the unexplicated, undocumented proclamations of absolutist dogmatics like Jobe, who automatically condemn anything not associated with some right-wing source.
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Originally posted by beternU:
You're not going to believe what you've been eating the last few years (thanks, Bush! thanks meat industry lobbyists!) when you eat a McDonald's burger (or the hamburger patties in kids' school lunches) or buy conventional ground meat at your supermarket:

According to today's New York Times, The "majority of hamburger" now sold in the U.S. now contains fatty slaughterhouse trimmings "the industry once relegated to pet food and cooking oil," "typically including most of the material from the outer surfaces of the carcass" that contains "larger microbiological populations."

Read more and cringe!

http://www.alternet.org/enviro...ost_u.s._ground_beef

One way to avoid this, insofar as ground beef in home cooking is concerned, is to buy a good cut of beef and have your in-store butcher grind it up for you. That way, you will get BETTER beef and none of that ammoniacal slime the lowlife lords of industry want to foist off on you.

Meanwhile, you should rent the documentary, "Food, Inc." and learn more about the bizarre, profiteering, unhealthy practices of the food and agriculture industries in this lobbied-to-death, fast-food, bad-food nation.

Link: http://www.foodincmovie.com/about-the-film.php


Wasn't it a big deal in the news @ 10 years ago when Taco Bell outbid a dogfood company on Beef?
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Originally posted by beternU:
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Originally posted by Jobe:
Don’t put any faith in anything altered net has to say nor some people trying to make money on a film they created.


And don't put any faith in the unexplicated, undocumented proclamations of absolutist dogmatics like Jobe, who automatically condemn anything not associated with some right-wing source.


Glad you realize altered net is a bias left winged source. They characteristically slam Bush at any opportunity for anything at anytime. Like they did in that article. Maybe your messiah will save us all.
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Originally posted by David L.:
There is a documentary out now called "Food Inc." which is supposed to be very eye-opening. I haven't it seen it yet. I am trying to go vegetarian. I rarely eat meat now, just once or twice per month, but I'd love to stop altogether.


I actually went veg for a couple of years about a decade ago. It's tough - but there are more supplements out there to replace the protein, now. Do you see any difference in your health?
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
My grandfather was a Health Inspector. You wouldn't believe what the USDA allows in peanut butter.


i heard peanut butter factories are some of the nastiest in the world and are worse than hot dog factories. if you've ever seen what goes in a hot dog, you'd never eat another one.
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
My grandfather was a Health Inspector. You wouldn't believe what the USDA allows in peanut butter.


Many of the USDA criteria for processed food products specify how many mouse feces, rat feces and insect parts are permitted per weight or volume of product.

EXAMPLE:

"PEANUT BUTTER Insect filth
(AOAC 968.35) Average of 30 or more insect fragments per 100 grams
Rodent filth
(AOAC 968.35) Average of 1 or more rodent hairs per 100 grams
Grit
(AOAC 968.35) Gritty taste and water insoluble inorganic residue is more than 25 mg per 100 grams

DEFECT SOURCE: Insect fragments - preharvest and/or post harvest and/or processing insect infestation, Rodent hair - post harvest and/or processing contamination with animal hair or excreta, Grit - harvest contamination..."

Here is a link to the complete item:

http://www.fda.gov/Food/Guidan...tation/ucm056174.htm

UGH!
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Originally posted by Jobe:
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Originally posted by beternU:
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Originally posted by Jobe:
Don’t put any faith in anything altered net has to say nor some people trying to make money on a film they created.


And don't put any faith in the unexplicated, undocumented proclamations of absolutist dogmatics like Jobe, who automatically condemn anything not associated with some right-wing source.


Glad you realize altered net is a bias left winged source. They characteristically slam Bush at any opportunity for anything at anytime. Like they did in that article. Maybe your messiah will save us all.


Truly you are the dimmest of dimbulbs if you read what I posted and actually concluded that it referred to AlterNet. That conclusion on your part is unlikely, however. It is much more probable that you are trying (and failing miserably) to be cute, in your own conceits at least, by "turning the tables" on what I posted to assert that it refers to AlterNet, when it is obvious to anyone but a syphilitic drooling fool that the reference is to YOU! ("absolutist dogmatics like Jobe")
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Originally posted by beternU:
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Originally posted by Jobe:
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Originally posted by beternU:
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Originally posted by Jobe:
Don’t put any faith in anything altered net has to say nor some people trying to make money on a film they created.


And don't put any faith in the unexplicated, undocumented proclamations of absolutist dogmatics like Jobe, who automatically condemn anything not associated with some right-wing source.


Glad you realize altered net is a bias left winged source. They characteristically slam Bush at any opportunity for anything at anytime. Like they did in that article. Maybe your messiah will save us all.


Truly you are the dimmest of dimbulbs if you read what I posted and actually concluded that it referred to AlterNet. That conclusion on your part is unlikely, however. It is much more probable that you are trying (and failing miserably) to be cute, in your own conceits at least, by "turning the tables" on what I posted to assert that it refers to AlterNet, when it is obvious to anyone but a syphilitic drooling fool that the reference is to YOU! ("absolutist dogmatics like Jobe")


Just put up reliable sources when you try to make a point. Then after people respond to your crap, you can still depart from the subject and fuss about grammar.
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[QUOTE]Just put up reliable sources when you try to make a point. Then after people respond to your crap, you can still depart from the subject and fuss about grammar.[QUOTE]

I do use reliable sources; it is just that you and your fellow travellers in right-wing fantasyland are so provincial and narrow that you don't recognize a reliable source when you see one.
Exactly. That's why I drink!
Rum, and Bourbon have all of the nutrients you need...daily, without all of the "poison".
There are carbs, sodium, protein, starch...etc.
All of the things you get by eating...without the risk.
Just look at it: Rum...made from sugar cane...natural.
Bourbon: Corn! For Christ sake!...It's CORN!
Look up how much food you eat EVERY DAY that contains corn?
Flour...corn
Meal...corn.
CapTain Crunch.
Pancakes.
Bread?...wel maybe not corn, but wheat...a grain.
Shall I continue?
Chick..

I go to Foodland just as soon as they open. The meat manager will go through the counter and pick out the meat that is starting expire...the meat will be marked down from 30 to 75% depending...
The second and third place is O'quirres on avalon and Piggly Wiggly. I buy their mark down meats also.
It really sounds like a lot of trouble to grind your own, but you will be surprised how fast you can get it done.
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Originally posted by trader:
Chick..
I go to Foodland just as soon as they open. The meat manager will go through the counter and pick out the meat that is starting expire...the meat will be marked down from 30 to 75% depending...
The second and third place is O'quirres on avalon and Piggly Wiggly. I buy their mark down meats also.
It really sounds like a lot of trouble to grind your own, but you will be surprised how fast you can get it done.


Thank you..... Wink
A quote from the link from alternet: “And to emphasize: this pink slime isn't just in fast food burgers or free lunches for poor kids:” No needs to pull on the heart strings, not all kids that are eating lunch at schools are poor. Just read the actual nytimes article, which is linked from alternet.

I watched the “Food Inc.” movie. (It’s available to watch instantly on Netflix.) I think it is pointless to try to put the blame on Republicans over Democrats or vice versa; or one man for that matter. Surely you saw it shown in the documentary where both Bush and Clinton administration were with Monsanto. Also, there were various other members who served dual roles in government while serving on boards such as Smithfield’s. I also think it’s pointless to make it political because every item you buy at the grocery store is basically your vote cast. Buy organic. Buy local. Grow a garden using organic seeds.

Also, if you are struggling to become a vegetarian, do watch the “Food, Inc.” movie. It’ll be a while before I eat chicken again and I usually by the heartland organic brand. Not to mention thinking long and hard about all the corn syrup your children are consuming and it’s correlation to type II diabetes.
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Originally posted by SardonicPoet:
Grammar check: "absolutist dogmatics" should read "dogmatic absolutists". With English, modifiers preceed the object.

And you calling someone else dogmatic is just amusing.


Be amused if you wish, but I at least put up something to defend my "dogma." Few of those who choose to wrangle with me do that,instead preferring insult and invective to evidence and substance.
Read the four page article in The New York Times on ammonia treated beef. I am not good at linking. If the NYT bothers you, just call it "that newspaper'! I went through Drudge Report. It is listed as an article on today's front webpape. An ironic sidenote is that I cleaned a crusted pan with an ammonia based household cleaner and rinsed forever so we would not get ammonia in our bodies!
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Originally posted by beternU:
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Originally posted by dogsoldier0513:
My grandfather was a Health Inspector. You wouldn't believe what the USDA allows in peanut butter.


Many of the USDA criteria for processed food products specify how many mouse feces, rat feces and insect parts are permitted per weight or volume of product.

EXAMPLE:

"PEANUT BUTTER Insect filth
(AOAC 968.35) Average of 30 or more insect fragments per 100 grams
Rodent filth
(AOAC 968.35) Average of 1 or more rodent hairs per 100 grams
Grit
(AOAC 968.35) Gritty taste and water insoluble inorganic residue is more than 25 mg per 100 grams

DEFECT SOURCE: Insect fragments - preharvest and/or post harvest and/or processing insect infestation, Rodent hair - post harvest and/or processing contamination with animal hair or excreta, Grit - harvest contamination..."

Here is a link to the complete item:

http://www.fda.gov/Food/Guidan...tation/ucm056174.htm

UGH!


BINGO!
I am on the lean side of eighty, but I remember when I was a young boy my dear old Mom
would have the meat cutter at the small grocery store where we traded to grind up round steak or some other real lean to marbled piece of meat for any ground meat she bought. So for a long time people have been wise to the (additives) to ground meat, sausage included. It is pretty sorry that people will do that to food. MHO

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