Originally Posted by lexum:
Frog it is obvious you are not on the forum to explore any virtues the religious might have.
If you just simply don’t believe in God why all the fuss on here.
Historically the atheist have come here for sympathy or to practice the current atheist dogma of n
“no patience for believers” and that the proper thing to do is be ugly to them. If you are not aware of this you have not been on the forum here paying attention nor have you kept up with the “new atheist” teachings.
Rather than rehash this again pay attention. If you truly don’t follow any atheist doctrines or Dawkins you just crawled out from under a rock. I suggest you go to the link and listen to the “Great Debate” panel discussion and short lectures of the front runners that are trying to take away your freedom for sure.
Hmm. So you know why I am here, you know where I need to go to learn more, and you believe I am fussing. Also, you seem to think that you know how I should think and what I should have noticed since I have come here, and you feel the need to tell me to "pay attention". Do you realize that telling an adult on a forum to "pay attention" is condescending and rude and that I didn't ask you to explain it to me in the first place? I just didn't see things as you did, and while I totally believe you have that right, I don't see why you have to be rude to me because I don't.
And no, I have no interest in that link. I don't care what they think and whoever they aren't they most likely don't represent me anyway. What I believe and how I live aren't determined by a great debate or what some guy thinks anyway, so I am not interested in wasting my time listening to him. If someone else wants to that is cool, but I am just not interested. So you have decided that if I don't see things as you think I should that I just crawled out from under a rock or I'm not paying attention. That is very polite as well...perhaps I have other reasons or am just not interested, but you have to say those things to me. You don't seem to see that I am not against any group no matter how many times I say it..I have been in different religions and do know how it feels to believe, and I wouldn't think of making fun of or trying to talk anyone out of that feeling. I've been where I didn't believe in any gods, where I did, and where I believed deeply, and I have participated in some Eastern rituals and see why they believe as they do.
The funny thing is I didn't come here to bash anyone, nor do I think that any particular group acts in a particular way totally and each member all the time. I like a good discussion, I do learn from all the viewpoints here, and I have said many times I don't believe anyone needs to get ugly to anyone. So seriously, are you trying to get me to dislike you or something? I'm not here with any particular agenda, I am happy if you have found a path you feel good about, and my own path feels right to me. So perhaps since I feel no need to show you how "real" Christians feel and you know now that I am not interested in being identified with the guy you mentioned or whatever his beliefs are, we can have respectful discussions.