The worst taskmaster a small business person can have is himself.
It's not for wimps or people who want to go home at five, or want weekends, holidays, sick days, off.
Originally Posted by jtdavis:
Of course they do not provide us with our living. It's the other way around, and if we had to, we could run the business without them.
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I congratulate you on having a good enough heart to give someone a job when you don't need them.
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Wish I could congratulate you on something, but sadly I can't. Every post of yours shows a bit more of your ignorance about how things work. I said IF we had to. Now, that means that it works out nicely to have them there to do the job, and be able to pay them for the work they do. Got that part? But, IF we had to do without them we could. Anything can happen. I know you are used to having three men do a job one man could do, and having all your helpers to wipe your brow if you happened to break a sweat, so of course you don't grasp the concept of someone 'doubling up' and taking care of a job on their own if there is no one else to do it
Just to be fair no one except a one person show can run thier business by themselves. Nor is any worker "hopefully" to critical to the operation to not be replaced. Two things make most businesses work and prosper good management/leadership and good employees a lack or either can kill a business.
Not sure what a 'one man show' means in this case, but yes, things happen and people have to, can, and do run businesses by themselves.
Not trying to be difficult but exactly hows does a business owner that requies many employees do it by themselves. One person show is a common example of people who open and run a business that requires few or no employees. In many cases the owner does not know how to do certain things in a operation. Maybe conceptually but not the expertise to for example to runa CNC machine or fly a plane.
I don't know of any workers who go to work with their main intent to make their employer rich. If the salary is too low, then quit and move on to another job. The 13th amendment is still applicable today.
Originally Posted by HIFLYER2:
Not trying to be difficult but exactly hows does a business owner that requies many employees do it by themselves. One person show is a common example of people who open and run a business that requires few or no employees. In many cases the owner does not know how to do certain things in a operation. Maybe conceptually but not the expertise to for example to runa CNC machine or fly a plane.
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You do it many ways by yourself, and what business owner does not know how to do everything in their operation? Not knowing the ins and outs of a business is insanity, and imo asking for failure. There is not one thing in our shop that we don't know how to do. When we hired employees we trained them. There were other training programs they could have attended had they wanted to, ones we had already gone through. Planes and flying them has nothing to do with our business.
Originally Posted by Mr. Hooberbloob:
I don't know of any workers who go to work with their main intent to make their employer rich. If the salary is too low, then quit and move on to another job. The 13th amendment is still applicable today.
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As much as we hold our employees in high regard, and as good and loyal as they are, I can attest to the fact they are not there to make us rich.
Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by HIFLYER2:
Not trying to be difficult but exactly hows does a business owner that requies many employees do it by themselves. One person show is a common example of people who open and run a business that requires few or no employees. In many cases the owner does not know how to do certain things in a operation. Maybe conceptually but not the expertise to for example to runa CNC machine or fly a plane.
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You do it many ways by yourself, and what business owner does not know how to do everything in their operation? Not knowing the ins and outs of a business is insanity, and imo asking for failure. There is not one thing in our shop that we don't know how to do. When we hired employees we trained them. There were other training programs they could have attended had they wanted to, ones we had already gone through. Planes and flying them has nothing to do with our business.
Many many companies are run or owned by people who do not know how to do every step of the business. Many private companies have task that the owner cannot do such as run a CNC machine etc. Most mid size to large privately owned business owners do not attend specalized training to run machines like CNC, MRI, ETC. So exactly how does a business owner do it by themselves when the workforce required is 50. Are you really saying you employe people who are not necessary to run your business?
My mistake then. I thought you were commenting on the discussion between myself and jt stemming from his comment that I hired people I didn't need, seeing as how we are capable of running the business short handed should it come to that. I am talking about small businesses, not large companies.
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Are you really saying you employe people who are not necessary to run your business?
Funny that this is so hard to understand. IF, IF, IF, it comes to that. If, as a small business owner one of our employees gets sick, injured, has to take a leave, do we fire and replace them? Do we try to hire someone temporarily, train them, bring them in with their understanding they are only there X amount of time, and are outta there when the employee is able to return, or do we take up the slack? Do you fly passenger planes?
Originally Posted by Bestworking:
My mistake then. I thought you were commenting on the discussion between myself and jt stemming from his comment that I hired people I didn't need, seeing as how we are capable of running the business short handed should it come to that. I am talking about small businesses, not large companies.
Gotcha
Best, if your employees like working for you, I applaud you for taking care of them (pay, conditions, and appreciating their work). It's been my experience that if you treat people right and thank them for a good job, they will move mountains for you.
When I was younger, I wanted to start a service company. I had the knowledge,skills and tools. I had talked to potential customers and had enough promises to do it. After soul searching, I knew that I did not have enough self discipline to run a business. I would have gone fishing instead of opening it.
Also, I never had a job quite as cushy as you described. If I took your money, I gave you a good days work.
Originally Posted by HIFLYER2:
Just to be fair no one except a one person show can run thier business by themselves. Nor is any worker "hopefully" to critical to the operation to not be replaced. Two things make most businesses work and prosper good management/leadership and good employees a lack or either can kill a business.
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True in certain cases cited, but I'm thinking small business, not CEO of Boeing. A couple of exceptions. First you start at ground level, it begins with you. Secondly if you want employees, you've got to have capital meaning deep pocket or good credit.
I have no idea how many if any UncleGus employs. My mechanic, none. Myself, I have to rely on part-timers and sub-contractors. And good friends and close associates.
Agree totally on good management/leadership skills including setting goals for the benefit and common good of all.
Having said that, get on board or get the hell off my boat. I'm the one taking the risks.
Originally Posted by jtdavis:
Best, if your employees like working for you, I applaud you for taking care of them (pay, conditions, and appreciating their work). It's been my experience that if you treat people right and thank them for a good job, they will move mountains for you.
When I was younger, I wanted to start a service company. I had the knowledge,skills and tools. I had talked to potential customers and had enough promises to do it. After soul searching, I knew that I did not have enough self discipline to run a business. I would have gone fishing instead of opening it.
Also, I never had a job quite as cushy as you described. If I took your money, I gave you a good days work.
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The discipline instilled in me by former careers ensured me that I would be there when no one else was. It was never about the money. It was/is all about the mission.
I'm thinking like this.
If I want to fly in a UPS plane I can
either earn my way
or pay freight.
There are no free rides.
