Since the Supremes say that same sex marriage is allowable then only they should be allowed to perform same sex marriages. There would be no further discrimination against same sex couples as the judges would have to perform those ceremonies and let the rest of the US marry the rest of the couples. Common sense at work.
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Any Pastor that refuses to marry Gays, will find a lawsuit against them. Be interesting to see how long it takes. I don't think anyone should be forced to do something they don't believe in, so there comes a time if they don't want to be sued, they need to step down from the Pulpit. But it'll never happen!
SCOTUS included in their ruling a freedom of conscience for religious ceremonies under the first amendment -- not so much for bakers and wedding caterers.
As I have stated on this forum. I support the libertarian view that the state should not be in the business of marriage, but should issue civil contracts with the same laws constituting marriage for property and children. Once the contract is approved, the couple can take it to the church, temple, mosque, or yurt of their choice to be married in the sight of God, Jesus, Buddha, Rama, Gaea. the Flying Spaghetti Monster, or Rammalammadingdong, for all I care.
Obamalamadingdong.
SCOTUS included in their ruling a freedom of conscience for religious ceremonies under the first amendment --
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So a Pastor doesn't have to marry them if he doesn't want to?
SCOTUS included in their ruling a freedom of conscience for religious ceremonies under the first amendment --
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So a Pastor doesn't have to marry them if he doesn't want to?
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For now in a church, if in a marriage for hire venue like those in Vegas --?
The bad news is that the condoms stock will fall and good news is that the population will decrease.
The bad news is that the condoms stock will fall and good news is that the population will decrease.
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Not sure how you figure that. What actions of people do you think will change ?
The bad news is that the condoms stock will fall and good news is that the population will decrease.
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Originally Posted by seeweed:
Not sure how you figure that. What actions of people do you think will change ?
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I would take that statement to mean condom stock will fall because Gays won't use condoms & the population will decrease because they can't procreate.
SCOTUS included in their ruling a freedom of conscience for religious ceremonies under the first amendment --
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So a Pastor doesn't have to marry them if he doesn't want to?
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No. They never have had to. They also haven't been forced to marry interracial couples. Or anyone, for that matter. That is just the religious nut jobs that refuse to actually understand the Constitution acting all Chicken Little.
However, remember Hillary stating that religious beliefs must change. Other leftie nutburgers like her have taken up the hue and cry.
Hillary is a walking, talking disaster. I'll go ahead and ratchet this up - I'd rather have Hitler than Hillary as President.
Hillary is a walking, talking disaster. I'll go ahead and ratchet this up - I'd rather have Hitler than Hillary as President.
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They did have cool looking uniforms under him...
Hillary is a walking, talking disaster. I'll go ahead and ratchet this up - I'd rather have Hitler than Hillary as President.
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mmmmm. no.
We can impeach Hillary.
With Hitler, we'd have to go through assassinations and suicides.
Oh, wait!
But seriously, NO!
Holocaust. All we need to know. And never forget.
Hillary is a walking, talking disaster. I'll go ahead and ratchet this up - I'd rather have Hitler than Hillary as President.
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mmmmm. no.
We can impeach Hillary.
With Hitler, we'd have to go through assassinations and suicides.
Oh, wait!
But seriously, NO!
Holocaust. All we need to know. And never forget.
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Hillary would be exponentially worse, while having tea with your grandmother. We could have controlled Hitler, not so much with Hillary. Hitler was transparent, the Clintons excel in secret illegalities, cover ups, back room shenanigans, and shady deals. Under Hillary, you could forget there ever being a Deep Throat, s/he would be weeded out long before s/he could be disloyal. Just ask George Snuffleuf agus - wait, he is too smart to ever talk.
No, preachers and priests do not have to marry someone just because they have a license. They can refuse to do so on religious beliefs. The license is a permit for a civil union, whereas a marriage, as seen by the church, is a religious union recognized by God. The minister, priest, rabbi, or whatever you wish to call them cannot be forced by law to perform a "marriage" to be recognized by their church. of course, they can do this if they wish, and a couple who is refused a ceremony by a this official is not entitled to sue them or force them to perform that ceremony as of yet. I think by the time we get to that point in the era of "political correctness" no one's rights will be protected.
