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this discussion is in relation to the current situation regarding the cherokee city council in regards to yesterday's you said it column YES,they should release the e-mails from the city clerk it would then prove who the major problem is in the council and that would be the mayor himself he is nothing but a loudmouth,boisterous,jerk the rumor is that the next meeting the colbert county sheriff's office will have deputies posted at the meeting this tells me the he doesn't even have the security or faith enough in his own police force to handle any problem that may arise if he were any sort of mayor he wouldnt sit at the restruant all day long and bemoan about the fact that he doesnt have a key to city hall where anyone and every one can hear about including the tourists that pass thru this area as cherokee is the first town they come to when coming from the west this puts our entire area in a bad light these people come here to enjoy themselves and have a great time not to hear our problems being vented for all the world to hear he talks about he needs letterhead out of the clerks office after hours last time i checked it comes in packs of 500 and one of them should be plenty enough to hold him over for a while just keep it in his office that isnt a very tough call
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The mayor is a problem, yes. However, the council member (his name has left me) that ADMITTED he held a grudge against the Water department or whatever proves how childish this whole council is. Personally, I think the town of Cherokee needs to clean house and start fresh with a new council and a new mayor. It is obvious that the adults don't know how to be adults with those actions and attitudes.

As for the Clerk, if I was responsible for the records, I would want them under lock and key and whoever gained access would have to go through hoops to get those records. I think the mayor was just mad he got locked out. She is not in the wrong to protect what she handles, but if she puts the hoops in place and then people jump through them -- she will have the control she needs to do the job. Then if someone circumvents the system, there are documented grounds to reprimand them -- even the mayor.
one thing i should have added into this post yesterday is a sheaf of the letterhead should last him about a year considering the fact he sits on his rear all day at the restruant whining plus he says he does a lot of work after hours this tells me he needs to get his priorities straight is he there to do a job and do the greater good for the common people or does the owner of the restraunt pay him to hold a chair down to keep it from floating away and waste the air of the people that are fed up with all this petulant crap and want a change my opinion is none of the above mine is he is there to abuse a public office in order to fulfill a personal vendetta/agenda and help out his buddies and to heck with anybody thats not on the inside track i think the city council itself has its integrity to uphold and has the capable people that can handle the job they jist need to get rid of the monkeywrench in the gearbox aka the mayor
It is interesting that you would say that, because I was told that if I wasn't careful they would not respond if I ever needed them. I have had others tell me that the fear of that very action is why they wont get involved in anything against the RS or VFD.

Every cloud has a silver lining and the silver lining in the cloud over Cherokee now is that more and more of the Citizens are starting to get involved.
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Originally posted by lilyredrose:
CSA & East,if I were the Mayor/Fire Chief/Paramedic and you were on fire, I wouldn't p*ss on you to put it out.
oh well to tell you the truth i dont really give a flying filp less whether you would pee on me or not i would really prefer you wouldnt as then i would stink like your attitude people like you are whats wrong with this country today wanna take up for the corruptors and instigators that want to abuse public office and positions of authority to uphold their own personal agendas and carry out vendettas on the ones that try to shoot them down
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Originally posted by oLDsEAdADDY:
It is interesting that you would say that, because I was told that if I wasn't careful they would not respond if I ever needed them. I have had others tell me that the fear of that very action is why they wont get involved in anything against the RS or VFD.

Every cloud has a silver lining and the silver lining in the cloud over Cherokee now is that more and more of the Citizens are starting to get involved.
aye mate a toddy of rum to you my friend
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Originally posted by CSAcannoneer:
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Originally posted by lilyredrose:
CSA & East,if I were the Mayor/Fire Chief/Paramedic and you were on fire, I wouldn't p*ss on you to put it out.
oh well to tell you the truth i dont really give a flying filp less whether you would pee on me or not i would really prefer you wouldnt as then i would stink like your attitude people like you are whats wrong with this country today wanna take up for the corruptors and instigators that want to abuse public office and positions of authority to uphold their own personal agendas and carry out vendettas on the ones that try to shoot them down
Goodness, CSAcannoneer; I am not trying to be like betternu but you have to hold the record for writing two or three of the longest, unpuntuated, uncapitalised posts in a while. As for some of your statements; I think you have some of yor facts messed up but that is your opinion. If you live in Cherokee and really care; get involved, attend the meetings, call your council person and let them know how you feel. Do you really care?, or are you just spouting off about some things you know very little about? My problem is this; if you care enough to post, then care enough to let people know who you are and not hide behind your computer.
It is the mayor’s job to talk with the citizens of the town. Since most of the town eats at the restaurant, one would think that would be a good place for the mayor to be. There is a thing called a cell phone and the mayor is part time.

Most people work during the day so staying at the town hall would be a waste of time; the mayor would not see many citizens of the town at the town hall during the day. Most people get off around 4 or 5, so going down to city hall then would make sense because the people that pay the taxes could have a chance to see the mayor after work and not have to miss any work.

The town clerk was hired by the old Mayor Willis and is still in her back pocket. There is no way in he** if I was the mayor, I would hang out at the town hall because she could claim something happened like harassment.

Why does the town clerk want the town files keep from the mayor? Could it be mismanagement of money? Why did the town clerk notarize a paper that give the ex town library clerk authority to spend the libraries money. The library clerk went on a spending spree that cost the library about 40,000 dollars. The mayor and town council should have given that authority to the library clerk not the town clerk. When Mayor Willis and the current town clerk came into power in 2004, the town had over 200,000 dollars in two accounts, the sewer and building fund. Now 2/3 of that money is gone. Maybe the mayor is going thru the files to find out where the money went, just a thought.
Cherokeereporter, if you are claiming to be a reporter as your moniker indicated, you need to get your facts from the official records; not from Chuck and his gang.

Why does the town clerk want the town files keep from the mayor? Could it be mismanagement of money?
While the financial records are locked up also, they are not the reason for locking him out. I believe there is some mismanagement of money but not by the town clerk.

Why did the town clerk notarize a paper that give the ex town library clerk authority to spend the libraries money.
The paper in question was to apply for a grant which the library did receive.
A Notary is only witnessing a signature and most of the time has no idea what the document is, it is none of their business.

The library clerk went on a spending spree that cost the library about 40,000 dollars.
It does appear that the former Librarian did miss use some funds but the 40,000 you speak of includes grant money the library did not receive because they were not applied for. It is not clear if it was the Librarian or the Library Board that was responsible.

The mayor and town council should have given that authority to the library clerk not the town clerk.
The library has a Board appointed by the mayor and town council and it is their responsibility to give the authority and to MONITOR IT. It is apparent they did not do the job or it would not have gotten so bad.

When Mayor Willis and the current town clerk came into power in 2004, the town had over 200,000 dollars in two accounts, the sewer and building fund. Now 2/3 of that money is gone.
I can not (at this time) tell you how much money the town had when Mayor Willis took office but with Chucks statement that a town is not in the business of making money, I drought he has ever had that much in the bank unless he had just deposited a grant check for some program or project that already had it spent.

When he took office this time there was approximately 150,000 in the general fund with a 20,000 refund grant due for a police car that had been purchased by the previous administration. So for all practical purposes he started with 170,000 and in January there was less than 10,000.

Maybe the mayor is going thru the files to find out where the money went, just a thought.
He spent it so why would he be looking for where it went. The council is partially responsible also but on their behalf, Mayor Lansdell slick talked them into spending it. For example: he led them to believe the grant refund was for the town to buy a police car, not to replace the money the town the town had already spent when they purchased the previous one. I have this on video so I can back up my words.

While I'm telling,
I did publish a paper (Smoke Signals) in Cherokee a while back and I told everyone that I was not a reporter. I did promise to do the best I could and I did get some things wrong but I also printed retractions and corrections.
People keep asking me why I video all the meetings in Cherokee.
* First, The Alabama Sun Shine Law allows it
* I am lousy at taking notes but I can review the video as many times as I need to.
* After starting, I found that it is a better record than any minuets can provide.
* I video the work session where things are discussed as well as the meeting where the votes are taken. Minuets only record the the outcome of the votes.
* After others realized the value of them, I have been ask to continue.
* I do not live in the Town Limits but as long as I have to put “Cherokee, Al 35616” as my address anything that affects Cherokee affects me.
* I don't have a vote but I do have a voice and I took a oath to defend this country and the democratic process against ALL Enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC.

Most everyone knows who I am, but just in case you don't, my name is Arthur N. Weaver. I will stand up for what I say with out hiding behind the screen name.
It was not all grants that didn't materialize, there was some miss use (at least it appears to me) until proven guilty. Most of what TD and channel 48 report is what ever chuck tells them. He has been after the town clerk from the beginning because she knows her job and calls him on things that are not right. It is like when he told everyone that I obtained copies of the RS IRS 990 forms illegally, that it is not public information. All 501 (c) 3 origination's IRS 990 forms are public information and the IRS will provide you a copy if you ask.
He tells people what ever he wants and because he is such a wonderful person, volunteering and a minister to boot, it has to be the truth. Many of the people in Cherokee have given up and consider Cherokee a lost cause, others are so blinded by his wonderful light shining so brightly they can't see what he is doing behind it.
oLDSEADADDY AKA A.N. Weaver your short lived paper Smoke Signals was not worth the paper it was written on. It was not fit for the bottom of a bird cage. You are so far up the former Mayor Willis backside, I cannot figure out where she ends and you begin. That is why you trailer trash paper failed. You would only report everything from Mignon’s side and not from what the facts proved.

My facts are correct and if you cannot handle them then do not read them. Mayor Willis, the burger king four, and you should stop trying to run the town and do what the citizens of Cherokee want. We want the town council to be independent and do the people’s business.

Your friend former Mayor Willis was fired from the family business for gross negligence and mishandling the family business money account. The town council should do what is best for the town and not what is best for Mignon. Wake up Weaver and pull yourself out and help the town instead of helping the town idiot.

Your video skills are lacking, the only thing that needed to be taped was the fight that Betty started with the mayor’s wife and you just happen to move your camera at the very moment. I believe that proves just where you loyalty stands.

I am independent and just report the facts.
Cherokeereporter's statements ring true with no scuttlebutt! Why should the mayor stay at city hall all day in a town this small and most of the people who congregate there in the day don't work and are known enemies? Everyone knows how to contact him when he is needed,in a town this small everyone knows about everyone.One phone call usually can start the ball rolling to find anyone!!!!
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Originally posted by oLDsEAdADDY:
It was not all grants that didn't materialize, there was some miss use (at least it appears to me) until proven guilty. Most of what TD and channel 48 report is what ever chuck tells them. He has been after the town clerk from the beginning because she knows her job and calls him on things that are not right. It is like when he told everyone that I obtained copies of the RS IRS 990 forms illegally, that it is not public information. All 501 (c) 3 origination's IRS 990 forms are public information and the IRS will provide you a copy if you ask.
He tells people what ever he wants and because he is such a wonderful person, volunteering and a minister to boot, it has to be the truth. Many of the people in Cherokee have given up and consider Cherokee a lost cause, others are so blinded by his wonderful light shining so brightly they can't see what he is doing behind it.



Are you all confused? Because you make it sound like this was the town's library!! Infact this was the Library of Cherokee High School. I do not know why Cherokee got involved because it seems I made the wright choice to email the previous artical and information about Mason's comment to Our Govenor and State Senators, Mr Beford and Mr. Marrow! I made a recomendation to Throw out the whole bloody council and reappoint new people!

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