Climber found dead in Mount St. Helens crater

I had never thought of it this way, but you are absolutely right.

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Originally posted by Ronnie P.:
At some point doesn't it get absurd to have to fund rescue teams, buy helicopters, and risk lives so that these guys can climb not only mountains but Volcanoes to boot?

Just a though.

I guess it's also absurd for our civil servants along with our tax dollars to be sent to Haiti to dig out and rescue people of color.

The number of those rescued doing the extreme activities you mentioned pales in comparison to the large number of people we have helped or rescued in Haiti.

I'm sure if you and some of your other black buddies fell into a volcano, they'd come looking for you too.

The difference between these two situations is glaringly obvious. The people of Haiti didn't put themselves in an earthquake intentionally.

When it comes down to saving lives, there usually isn't time to evaluate criteria.

The fact that you would even hint at agreeing with the OP shows a clear lack of intellect and reasoning on your part.

Why Yes, the white men who climb and explore, are of the same type that have led mankind into space. They are the decendents of the white men that explored this new world we call America. Can't say the same about the French Haitians.

I think the Olympics are also a waste of money as well as senseless deaths. But it is all a matter of what people want to do. I'm not loosing sleep over it.

The olympics aren't half as bad as all of the time and resources wasted lobbying and debating the perverse and family-eroding issue of gay marriage.

I'm not saying we shouldn't save people but I think we should charge them or something and make them carry insurance for some activities to pay for it.

In this case the deceased family should have to pay say 35,000 to fetch this man's body out of a 1,5000 foot crater in a volcano.

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Originally posted by Ronnie P.:
I'm not saying we shouldn't save people but I think we should charge them or something and make them carry insurance for some activities to pay for it.

In this case the deceased family should have to pay say 35,000 to fetch this man's body out of a 1,5000 foot crater in a volcano.

I agree that the families should be billed for reasonable rescue/recovery fees when the person put themselves in "harm's way" to start with.

And exactly why should his family be responsible for his actions? Just because someone is a family member of mine, doesn't make me responsible for paying for their mistakes.

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Originally posted by Loki:
And exactly why should his family be responsible for his actions? Just because someone is a family member of mine, doesn't make me responsible for paying for their mistakes.

Reasonable point. It should come out of his estate.

Make em buy permits to climb.

Have an underwriter lined up to evaluate each applicant and issue a policy based upon his/her outdoor experience and overall survivability vs probability of doing somthing stupid.

This policy could pay state or federal agencies in the event of a rescue.

Climbers are covered while collectively taking care of the expense of the stupid ones.

Just charge the sh!t out of em to do it and it will eliminate some of the riffraff and some of those who aren't serious enough about it to have the proper equipment and/or knowledge to survive such an adventure.

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Originally posted by Ronnie P.:
How much do you think we spend subsidizing rich white men sense of adventure?
Just a though.

What does being rich & white have to do with it?

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Originally posted by JOY4567:

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Originally posted by Loki:
And exactly why should his family be responsible for his actions? Just because someone is a family member of mine, doesn't make me responsible for paying for their mistakes.

Reasonable point. It should come out of his estate.

Now that I actually agree with.