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the sad thing is there are shootings.  I is carried out by  less than 1% of population,,, how do you change and prevent more?   If it is because of bulling, just wait til they get to prison and become someone's boy.    is it videos, movies? lack of education?  educators lack of ability to spot challenges and/or handle them?  What we will hear the most about is guns,  which are a tool.  

1130 posted:

the sad thing is there are shootings.  I is carried out by  less than 1% of population,,, how do you change and prevent more?   If it is because of bulling, just wait til they get to prison and become someone's boy.    is it videos, movies? lack of education?  educators lack of ability to spot challenges and/or handle them?  What we will hear the most about is guns,  which are a tool.  

One student says this shooter was bullied by coaches in front of other students, and bullied by those students in front of the coaches, but the left blames guns. The Parkland shooter was bullied too, even by the bald chick that runs her mouth all the time.

Old stomping grounds, Sweet Home Chicago... Some of the Toughest Gun Laws in the Country.

If not being shot at School, then Coming home from School.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...-20180502-story.html

May be a record year for shootings, starting early with warmer weather getting everyone out of the house.. Thank God I don't live in Chicago Land. My poor friends are still there and can't wait to retire & get the Ell out of Dodge.

River Runner posted:

Old stomping grounds, Sweet Home Chicago... Some of the Toughest Gun Laws in the Country.

If not being shot at School, then Coming home from School.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...-20180502-story.html

May be a record year for shootings, starting early with warmer weather getting everyone out of the house.. Thank God I don't live in Chicago Land. My poor friends are still there and can't wait to retire & get the Ell out of Dodge.

Why compare apples to oranges? The crime rate in Chicago is driven by hopelessness. Zero jobs, because of outsourcing. Little to no assistance in relocation or job training.... the list of factors is available to anyone who wishes to see the truth. Blaming the violence in Chicago on gun laws is like blaming fish for swimming in water. If you take away all hope for a better life, people will find a way to survive. That's kinda how we got to America.

River Runner posted:

Old stomping grounds, Sweet Home Chicago... Some of the Toughest Gun Laws in the Country.

If not being shot at School, then Coming home from School.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...-20180502-story.html

May be a record year for shootings, starting early with warmer weather getting everyone out of the house.. Thank God I don't live in Chicago Land. My poor friends are still there and can't wait to retire & get the Ell out of Dodge.

Well said.......

Br’er Rabbit posted:
River Runner posted:

Old stomping grounds, Sweet Home Chicago... Some of the Toughest Gun Laws in the Country.

If not being shot at School, then Coming home from School.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...-20180502-story.html

May be a record year for shootings, starting early with warmer weather getting everyone out of the house.. Thank God I don't live in Chicago Land. My poor friends are still there and can't wait to retire & get the Ell out of Dodge.

Why compare apples to oranges? The crime rate in Chicago is driven by hopelessness. Zero jobs, because of outsourcing. Little to no assistance in relocation or job training.... the list of factors is available to anyone who wishes to see the truth. Blaming the violence in Chicago on gun laws is like blaming fish for swimming in water. If you take away all hope for a better life, people will find a way to survive. That's kinda how we got to America.

Zero jobs, because of outsourcing.

As I recall, Outsourcing began slowly at the beginning of NAFTA. Bill sealed the deal in Early 90's. Outsourcing was not isolated to just Chicago. Outsourcing began spreading throughout large cities and small town america out of economic necessity for survival. Just like locally  you may recall Tee-Jays, the largest Tee-Shirt manufacturer in the county closed its doors in Lauderdale county. Even my corporation moved around from city to city & each time I had to Reapply for my old job or accept a new job. Life goes on, one way or another. You do have to do your own work to get a new job and not rely on someone else to do it for you. If I waited for the severance package to provide assistance or training, I would still be looking for a job. I learned early on in my career, if you get layed off and not called back to work. The more time away from work without a paycheck, the further behind in saving for your retirement years.. The Key is to stay working & as little time being unemployed. Your Savings dewindle faster unemployed vs.what took years saving to achieve while employed. Think about that...That's reality and your deal with it the best you can. Hopefully you will make good decisions. 

Even more than outsourcing are the Democrat method of governing -- poor education ensuring young people can't qualify for jobs, easy access to welfare -- making the same dependent upon government for support (ensuring such vote Democrat), and increase of regulations and taxes to drive businesses out of the city limits.  One sees the same game plan over and over in our large failing cities.  Applied at the national level -- Venezuela and Zimbabwe. 

direstraits posted:

Even more than outsourcing are the Democrat method of governing -- poor education ensuring young people can't qualify for jobs, easy access to welfare -- making the same dependent upon government for support (ensuring such vote Democrat), and increase of regulations and taxes to drive businesses out of the city limits.  One sees the same game plan over and over in our large failing cities.  Applied at the national level -- Venezuela and Zimbabwe. 

Meanwhile, in Alabama, violent crime hits a 20 year high.

Br’er Rabbit posted:
direstraits posted:

Even more than outsourcing are the Democrat method of governing -- poor education ensuring young people can't qualify for jobs, easy access to welfare -- making the same dependent upon government for support (ensuring such vote Democrat), and increase of regulations and taxes to drive businesses out of the city limits.  One sees the same game plan over and over in our large failing cities.  Applied at the national level -- Venezuela and Zimbabwe. 

Meanwhile, in Alabama, violent crime hits a 20 year high.

And violent crime is not evenly spread throughout Alabama:

 https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/al/crime

I believe the violent crime rate is highest in areas where people take the goobermint's money, opt out of the legal legitimate economy, and vote for democrats.

Stanky posted:
Br’er Rabbit posted:
direstraits posted:

Even more than outsourcing are the Democrat method of governing -- poor education ensuring young people can't qualify for jobs, easy access to welfare -- making the same dependent upon government for support (ensuring such vote Democrat), and increase of regulations and taxes to drive businesses out of the city limits.  One sees the same game plan over and over in our large failing cities.  Applied at the national level -- Venezuela and Zimbabwe. 

Meanwhile, in Alabama, violent crime hits a 20 year high.

And violent crime is not evenly spread throughout Alabama:

 https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/al/crime

I believe the violent crime rate is highest in areas where people take the goobermint's money, opt out of the legal legitimate economy, and vote for democrats.

Well, the facts sure don't show you to be correct. Check crime rates vs votes and you'll see the results do not support your theory. So much for that.

Br’er Rabbit posted:
Stanky posted:
Br’er Rabbit posted:
direstraits posted:

Even more than outsourcing are the Democrat method of governing -- poor education ensuring young people can't qualify for jobs, easy access to welfare -- making the same dependent upon government for support (ensuring such vote Democrat), and increase of regulations and taxes to drive businesses out of the city limits.  One sees the same game plan over and over in our large failing cities.  Applied at the national level -- Venezuela and Zimbabwe. 

Meanwhile, in Alabama, violent crime hits a 20 year high.

And violent crime is not evenly spread throughout Alabama:

 https://www.neighborhoodscout.com/al/crime

I believe the violent crime rate is highest in areas where people take the goobermint's money, opt out of the legal legitimate economy, and vote for democrats.

Well, the facts sure don't show you to be correct. Check crime rates vs votes and you'll see the results do not support your theory. So much for that.

I listed three criteria not just one. Nationally, counties with high urbanization (Generally Dem. voters) within those Republican states have a high crime rate:

https://crimeresearch.org/2017...murders-69-1-murder/

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taking the number of schools,,, there has been shootings is about 7%,,, take number of students and that number drops way down below 1%.  So do we spend millions?  do we make 99% suffer?  

What is the reason?  crazy? well yes,,,   games and movie influence?  poor parenting?   poor education programs?   Guns? no just a tool.   Bullying?   think they were bullied at school just wait til prison.   

there are more teen suicides,, more auto teen deaths,, heck maybe even more teens killed in bus crashes.  So is it just a media to sell more advertising?

There was a shooting on a sidewalk down from an alternative "school", had nothing to do with the school, yet they tried to call it a school shooting. Reminds me of the incident where the guy set off a firecracker at the backdoor of his accountants office down from an NAACP office and they were yelling about an NAACP office being "bombed". A small black spot on the accountant's door was it, but they never made sure people knew the truth. Truth? Heck no, just let them believe anything we say.

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giftedamateur posted:

There was a shooting on a sidewalk down from an alternative "school", had nothing to do with the school, yet they tried to call it a school shooting. Reminds me of the incident where the guy set off a firecracker at the backdoor of his accountants office down from an NAACP office and they were yelling about an NAACP office being "bombed". A small black spot on the accountant's door was it, but they never made sure people knew the truth. Truth? Heck no, just let them believe anything we say.

Which one of the 22 was that?

1130 posted:

taking the number of schools,,, there has been shootings is about 7%,,, take number of students and that number drops way down below 1%.  So do we spend millions?  do we make 99% suffer?  

What is the reason?  crazy? well yes,,,   games and movie influence?  poor parenting?   poor education programs?   Guns? no just a tool.   Bullying?   think they were bullied at school just wait til prison.   

there are more teen suicides,, more auto teen deaths,, heck maybe even more teens killed in bus crashes.  So is it just a media to sell more advertising?

9200? You math is off.

Br’er Rabbit posted:
River Runner posted:

Old stomping grounds, Sweet Home Chicago... Some of the Toughest Gun Laws in the Country.

If not being shot at School, then Coming home from School.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...-20180502-story.html

May be a record year for shootings, starting early with warmer weather getting everyone out of the house.. Thank God I don't live in Chicago Land. My poor friends are still there and can't wait to retire & get the Ell out of Dodge.

Why compare apples to oranges? The crime rate in Chicago is driven by hopelessness. Zero jobs, because of outsourcing. Little to no assistance in relocation or job training.... the list of factors is available to anyone who wishes to see the truth. Blaming the violence in Chicago on gun laws is like blaming fish for swimming in water. If you take away all hope for a better life, people will find a way to survive. That's kinda how we got to America.

If this is true then why is Appalachia or any other improvised area not awash with killings like Chicago?

HIFLYER2 posted:
Br’er Rabbit posted:
River Runner posted:

Old stomping grounds, Sweet Home Chicago... Some of the Toughest Gun Laws in the Country.

If not being shot at School, then Coming home from School.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/...-20180502-story.html

May be a record year for shootings, starting early with warmer weather getting everyone out of the house.. Thank God I don't live in Chicago Land. My poor friends are still there and can't wait to retire & get the Ell out of Dodge.

Why compare apples to oranges? The crime rate in Chicago is driven by hopelessness. Zero jobs, because of outsourcing. Little to no assistance in relocation or job training.... the list of factors is available to anyone who wishes to see the truth. Blaming the violence in Chicago on gun laws is like blaming fish for swimming in water. If you take away all hope for a better life, people will find a way to survive. That's kinda how we got to America.

If this is true then why is Appalachia or any other improvised area not awash with killings like Chicago?

Given time, they will be. Plain and simple.

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