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I cant stand the hypocrisy of reverse discrimination. I will never call anyone an Afican-American. We are ALL Americans. Where's the ACLU.It isnt right to have a group exclusivly black or white or hispanic. Call the NAAWP....
I dont owe anybody anything other than an even shot at success. Blacks , most not all,need to quit hiding behind racism and work harder, accept criticism and keep their dignity.
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Its is the Black Caucus because it is made up of African Americans from both sides. There is nothing racist about that. And if it is a private group they have every right to allow whom ever they wish. I dont see the KKK allowing any members of a minority race to join ranks. The term African American is there because we are desendents of Africa, just like German American, Asian American and so on. So I guess Native American is the wrong term also
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Originally posted by Reflecting One of the voices i:
Congressional Black Caucus

I cant stand the hypocrisy of reverse discrimination. I will never call anyone an Afican-American. We are ALL Americans. Where's the ACLU.It isnt right to have a group exclusivly black or white or hispanic. Call the NAAWP....
I dont owe anybody anything other than an even shot at success. Blacks , most not all,need to quit hiding behind racism and work harder, accept criticism and keep their dignity.


A TRUE American, even Black ones should be color blind, but as far as racism, it seems like the blacks do it much more than any other group of people do.
First of all everyone is racist to a certain degree. Like it or not. Second if you are not a Native American then you are decendants from another country. Facts are facts. The reason for the CBC and HBCU's and other black groups is because is the past we were not allowed to join the ranks of the groups so African Americans fromed their own.
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
A TRUE American, even Black ones should be color blind, but as far as racism, it seems like the blacks do it much more than any other group of people do.


Sure, we'd all be color-blind in a "perfect world." But we have to acknowledge our own recognition of differences as well as our reaction to those. If you walk into a room with me and don't immediately see that I am female, you are crazy. Likewise, you'd immediately identify my race - or at least some approximation of it. You cannot be color-blind, nor gender-blind. And if you think you are, I think your last statement there ("blacks do it much more than any other group of people do") would prove otherwise.

"A TRUE American, even Black ones should be color blind, but as far as racism, it seems like the blacks do it much more than any other group of people do."

Now that's one of the most ironic statements I've heard lately. More importantly, did you really write "EVEN" black ones?!? Frowner
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Foyiii, you posted the following "Its is the Black Caucus because it is made up of African Americans from both sides. There is nothing racist about that. And if it is a private group they have every right to allow whom ever they wish. I dont see the KKK allowing any members of a minority race to join ranks. The term African American is there because we are desendents of Africa, just like German American, Asian American and so on. So I guess Native American is the wrong term also". The two comments I would make are:
1.)If there was a nationally recognized "white caucus" (the KKK doesn't count, you know better) that said only white people were allowed, you would most likely be raising all kinds of ___ right now. 2.)If ANY group should have ANYTHING in front of there name it is Native Americans. The rest of us are just plain old americans. I don't know of ANYBODY from any other country who puts anything before american other than african and native.
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Originally posted by dbt123:
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
A TRUE American, even Black ones should be color blind, but as far as racism, it seems like the blacks do it much more than any other group of people do.


Sure, we'd all be color blind in a "perfect world." But we have to acknowledge our own recognition of differences as well as our reaction to those. If you walk into a room with me and don't immediately see that I am female, you are crazy. Likewise, you'd immediately identify my race - or at least some approximation of it. You cannot be color-blind, nor gender-blind. And if you think you are, I think your last statement there ("blacks do it much more than any other group of people do") would prove otherwise.


I dont think so, dbt... I watch tv, and read papers, and it is all the same, .... I wont go into details, but no one group of people in this country is as racist as the blacks are, but I guess they have a right to be!

And the COLOR BLIND part is just analytical... it is just a way of saying that we all should be just AMERICANS, and try our darndest to treat each other as equals, no matter the race, no matter the gender...

Of course when one walks into a room, they can SEE the diversity, and that isn't what I was talking about...
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Originally posted by Southern Patriot:
Foyiii, you posted the following "Its is the Black Caucus because it is made up of African Americans from both sides. There is nothing racist about that. And if it is a private group they have every right to allow whom ever they wish. I dont see the KKK allowing any members of a minority race to join ranks. The term African American is there because we are desendents of Africa, just like German American, Asian American and so on. So I guess Native American is the wrong term also". The two comments I would make are:
1.)If there was a nationally recognized "white caucus" (the KKK doesn't count, you know better) that said only white people were allowed, you would most likely be raising all kinds of ___ right now. 2.)If ANY group should have ANYTHING in front of there name it is Native Americans. The rest of us are just plain old americans. I don't know of ANYBODY from any other country who puts anything before american other than african and native.


Now YOU said what "I" tried to... thanks, great comment, well put.
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Originally posted by Southern Patriot:
I don't know of ANYBODY from any other country who puts anything before american other than african and native.


I have met some who say they are "Irish American" and even a lady who said she was "French American." It's just about heritage, nothing else.


but the Irish are normally only saying that at the Pub... I love a good Irish pub Smiler
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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I wont go into details, but no one group of people in this country is as racist as the blacks are, but I guess they have a right to be!


Forgive me for resorting to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, but here is the definition of racism:

Main Entry: rac·ism
Function: noun
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race


Upon reading the first part of that definition in light of your remarks, I think your belief that "no one group of people in this country is as racist as the blacks are" might suggest you are citing a particular trait (racism) as being primarily determined by race. How ironic.
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Originally posted by dbt123:
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Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:
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I wont go into details, but no one group of people in this country is as racist as the blacks are, but I guess they have a right to be!


Forgive me for resorting to the Merriam-Webster dictionary, but here is the definition of racism:

Main Entry: rac·ism
Function: noun
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race


Upon reading the first part of that definition in light of your remarks, I think your belief that "no one group of people in this country is as racist as the blacks are" might suggest you are citing a particular trait (racism) as being primarily determined by race. How ironic.


Not ironic at all. In fact, I am probably the least racist person you will ever meet, but I can SEE the news, I can HEAR what is said, I can WATCH things unfold... and it has nothing to do with ME being racist. Did you not even WONDER why I wouldn't go into details?

In fact...the things I say I say with the experience of what I can see and hear. And I have every right to say what I said.

Coming from anyone else, I might would care, but as you have put yourself in the place of picking apart every single thing that I say, then I will just take THIS in stride, lol. If you werent centering me out, then you could be jumping on the person who posted this about the definition of racism, Cool

TOPIC OF POST is REVERSE discrimination.... so what do you have to say about the TOPIC, instead of about ME?
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Originally posted by foyiii:
Its is the Black Caucus because it is made up of African Americans from both sides. There is nothing racist about that. And if it is a private group they have every right to allow whom ever they wish. I dont see the KKK allowing any members of a minority race to join ranks. The term African American is there because we are desendents of Africa, just like German American, Asian American and so on. So I guess Native American is the wrong term also


Very well said!!
I'm sick of hearing that the white people owe black people because african people was used as slaves by white people.I have never owned a slave and the black's that are saying this crap has never been a slave.What's with this?I think the black people of today wants to get something free for what past black's went through.People like Jessie Jackson,Al Sharpton,Ect. keep racism alive,otherwise they would have to get a real job and do real work.
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Originally posted by foyiii:
First of all everyone is racist to a certain degree. Like it or not. Second if you are not a Native American then you are decendants from another country. Facts are facts. The reason for the CBC and HBCU's and other black groups is because is the past we were not allowed to join the ranks of the groups so African Americans fromed their own.


If you're not an American first then you're in the wrong place.

The KKK is not socially accepted and is looked at as a group of hatred...so to me is the NAACP and ANY exclusionary group defining itself by limitations on membership based on race. It reaks of hypocrisy. The past is OVER whites, blacks ,latinos anyone here needs to be an American or leave.
Racial identity is a carrier over from the mass immigration of the late 19th early 20th centuries. We identified ourselves by heritage in this melting pot. Less we lost what ancestry we had.
To continue that concept in todays America smacks more of seperatism than identity.
Personally I don't care what you call yourself, as long as you don't mind what I call you.Smiler
[QUOTE]Originally posted by stupid people suck:
I'm sick of hearing that the white people owe black people because african people was used as slaves by white people.I have never owned a slave and the black's that are saying this crap has never been a slave.What's with this?

Not much to worry about. All you here about is how the black kids don't have any adult males to look up yo. One must conclude that they won't have anyway of proving who their ancestors were.
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Originally posted by Yo Brotha from anotha Motha:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by stupid people suck:
I'm sick of hearing that the white people owe black people because african people was used as slaves by white people.I have never owned a slave and the black's that are saying this crap has never been a slave.What's with this?.Not much to worry about. All you here about is how the black kids don't have any adult males to look up yo. One must conclude that they won't have anyway of proving who their ancestors were


Please dont hijack this thread with bigotry, thats a bunch of crap. That attitude adds to the problem.
The point is reverse discrimination and exclusionary tactics that only serve to divide rather than unite into ONE race...the HUMAN race
One American ,,One country ,One loyalty,basically One nation under God indivisible with liberty and justice for ALL
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Originally posted by Reflecting One of the voices i:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Yo Brotha from anotha Motha:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by stupid people suck:
I'm sick of hearing that the white people owe black people because african people was used as slaves by white people.I have never owned a slave and the black's that are saying this crap has never been a slave.What's with this?.Not much to worry about. All you here about is how the black kids don't have any adult males to look up yo. One must conclude that they won't have anyway of proving who their ancestors were


Please dont hijack this thread with bigotry, thats a bunch of crap. That attitude adds to the problem.

No bigotry ROV, just stating the facts. Wake up and smell the coffee.
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Originally posted by Yo Brotha from anotha Motha:
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Originally posted by Reflecting One of the voices i:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Yo Brotha from anotha Motha:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by stupid people suck:
I'm sick of hearing that the white people owe black people because african people was used as slaves by white people.I have never owned a slave and the black's that are saying this crap has never been a slave.What's with this?.Not much to worry about. All you here about is how the black kids don't have any adult males to look up yo. One must conclude that they won't have anyway of proving who their ancestors were


Please dont hijack this thread with bigotry, thats a bunch of crap. That attitude adds to the problem.

No bigotry ROV, just stating the facts. Wake up and smell the coffee.


I take exception to the "know who your daddy is" implications, but this is for real

As a white liberal running in a majority African American district, Tennessee Democrat Stephen I. Cohen made a novel pledge on the campaign trail last year: If elected, he would seek to become the first white member of the Congressional Black Caucus.

Now that he's a freshman in Congress, Cohen has changed his plans. He said he has dropped his bid after several current and former caucus members made it clear to him that whites need not apply.

"I think they're real happy I'm not going to join," said Cohen, who succeeded Rep. Harold Ford, D-Tenn., in the Memphis district. "It's their caucus and they do things their way. You don't force your way in. You need to be invited."

Cohen said he became convinced that joining the caucus would be "a social faux pas" after seeing news reports that former Rep. William Lacy Clay Sr., D-Mo., a co-founder of the caucus, had circulated a memo telling members it was "critical" that the group remain "exclusively African-American."

Other members, including the new chairwoman, Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick, D-Mich., and Clay's son, Rep. William Lacy Clay, D-Mo., agreed.

"Mr. Cohen asked for admission, and he got his answer. ... It's time to move on," the younger Clay said. "It's an unwritten rule. It's understood. It's clear."

The bylaws of the caucus do not make race a prerequisite for membership, a House aide said
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The bylaws of the caucus do not make race a prerequisite for membership, a House aide said



What the bylaws state...

"Section 2. Regular Members: Any current Black member of a State Legislature who has tendered the amount of dues required for membership shall be eligible for regular membership. Members of this class shall have the right to vote on any matter being considered by the organization."


Black member??? why not a 'African American' member?

OIC...its only African American when it suits them...

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FYI. I think people, other than colored people, can still join the NAACP. I am a none colored person, I think. What exactly is a colored person, definition I mean? That seems kind of obscure doesn't it?
If I wear my pants below my buttocks and act weird do I qualify for anything other than the dumb designation? I think about these things from time to time while waiting for nature to take its' course. But really, what is this pants thing? Thanks for any info.
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"[...] most not all,need to quit hiding behind racism and work harder, accept criticism and keep their dignity.



The same could be said for European-Americans.


I agree, but, just to puzzle things up a little bit, I AM NOT TELLING WHAT COLOR I AM.

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