Why not? The U.S. has a few nukes it could expend.
Yeah...
And we want HER????
http://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/07/palin-war-ira/
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quote:Originally posted by beternU:
It is long past time for the American people and everyone else to stop taking this witless, incompetent, deluded, self-anointed, airheaded nincompoop seriously. It is evidence of a far-flung pathology that some significant proportion of the American populace consider Palin capable of intelligently managing the complex affairs of this nation or of any other, with the possible exception of the so-called "Tea Party Nation." These latest utterances on Iraq confirm indubitably the wackiness of the Wingnut of Wasilla!
quote:Originally posted by beternU:
It is long past time for the American people and everyone else to stop taking this witless, incompetent, deluded, self-anointed, airheaded nincompoop seriously. It is evidence of a far-flung pathology that some significant proportion of the American populace consider Palin capable of intelligently managing the complex affairs of this nation or of any other, with the possible exception of the so-called "Tea Party Nation." These latest utterances on Iraq confirm indubitably the wackiness of the Wingnut of Wasilla!
quote:Now that we know how you feel about the messenger, what do you think about the message? And she was talking about Iran not Iraq.
quote:It depends on a few things, say he played — I got this from Buchanan — say he played the war card. Say he decided to declare war on Iran or decide to really come out and do whatever he could to support Israel–which I would like him to do. That changes the dynamics of what we can assume will happen between now and three years. Because I think if the election were today, Obama would not be elected.
quote:Originally posted by dolemitejb:quote:It depends on a few things, say he played — I got this from Buchanan — say he played the war card. Say he decided to declare war on Iran or decide to really come out and do whatever he could to support Israel–which I would like him to do. That changes the dynamics of what we can assume will happen between now and three years. Because I think if the election were today, Obama would not be elected.
"Playing the race card" is a common phrase used to refer to a situation where someone uses racial issues as a means of obfuscation. I can only infer that "playing the war card" is the same.
quote:OK, I think we're really beginning to nit-pik here...which is more than this really deserves. She was not suggesting that he should play the "war card"...that if he did, it would change things.
quote:Originally posted by dolemitejb:quote:OK, I think we're really beginning to nit-pik here...which is more than this really deserves. She was not suggesting that he should play the "war card"...that if he did, it would change things.
I agree. I never meant to imply, and don't really think I did imply, that she WANTS him to attack Iran. However, she did clearly state that doing so, she thought, could improve his re-election chances. While it might be true (and that's debatable), and while politicians may have used the military as a sort of misdirection from other issues in the past, I will never support anyone who suggests that "the war card" is always an option.
quote:Agreed...absoulutley not. Unfortunately, I've come to believe that many (most, all?) of our recent Presidents, including our current, do use military action as misdirection or political cover...and Palin would be no different in this regard.
quote:Originally posted by ferrellj:quote:Agreed...absoulutley not. Unfortunately, I've come to believe that many (most, all?) of our recent Presidents, including our current, do use military action as misdirection or political cover...and Palin would be no different in this regard.
I agree as well except for the part Palin would be no different. What do you base this opinion on?
quote:Originally posted by beternU:
It is long past time for the American people and everyone else to stop taking this witless, incompetent, deluded, self-anointed, airheaded nincompoop seriously.
quote:Most high-paying jobs there were state or federal, and private companies were often dependent on state and federal subsidies for health, education, natural resources or at the time, construction and maintenance of the Alaska pipeline. Among military transplants from the lower 48, there was a sense that if you or your spouse didn’t have a government subsidized job or a retirement check – you might be living at a subsistence level in a place that is cold and dark for half the year. By subsisting, I mean living without the comfort and consumptive variety that most Americans take for granted. By subsisting, I mean a decrease in the overall economic benefit that comes from specialization and trade, due primarily to a geographic scarcity of non-government employed people actually producing useful things.
quote:But I think that the problem with Sarah is simply that she just hasn’t thought enough about the state, how it lives (parasitically) and why it survives (redistribution and fear). Growing up as a member of the great publicly employed in Alaska is probably the worst way to critically understand the welfare and warfare state; no matter how bad they are, you always love your Mommy and your Daddy.
quote:She learned that freedom looks like government protecting you. She learned that liberty means doing what is good for the state. As a Republican (in Alaska, there are mostly libertarians, independents and Republicans, and she gravitated to the most statist option), she likes the idea of small government and non-interference. But as a child of the warfare-welfare state, she will build bridges to nowhere at home, and repeatedly blow them up overseas, without a hint of irony.
quote:Originally posted by elinterventor01:
Palin was commenting that Obama could cynically declare war to stay in power. Betern nutttin, didn't you get this? If not, take yourself down a couple of pegs, in your own estimation.
quote:Originally posted by dolemitejb:
I find that for every beternU, who obsesses over Sarah Palin with disapproval, there is a balance created by a "conservative" who thinks she can do no wrong. Then there are those like myself. I don't care for her politically, but that's where my disapproval ends. I have felt that those who love her see no difference in people with my point of view and people with beternU's point of view. This simply isn't the case. I enjoyed this article because I believe it shows the difference.
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On Alaskan politics and government:quote:Most high-paying jobs there were state or federal, and private companies were often dependent on state and federal subsidies for health, education, natural resources or at the time, construction and maintenance of the Alaska pipeline. Among military transplants from the lower 48, there was a sense that if you or your spouse didn’t have a government subsidized job or a retirement check – you might be living at a subsistence level in a place that is cold and dark for half the year. By subsisting, I mean living without the comfort and consumptive variety that most Americans take for granted. By subsisting, I mean a decrease in the overall economic benefit that comes from specialization and trade, due primarily to a geographic scarcity of non-government employed people actually producing useful things.quote:But I think that the problem with Sarah is simply that she just hasn’t thought enough about the state, how it lives (parasitically) and why it survives (redistribution and fear). Growing up as a member of the great publicly employed in Alaska is probably the worst way to critically understand the welfare and warfare state; no matter how bad they are, you always love your Mommy and your Daddy.quote:She learned that freedom looks like government protecting you. She learned that liberty means doing what is good for the state. As a Republican (in Alaska, there are mostly libertarians, independents and Republicans, and she gravitated to the most statist option), she likes the idea of small government and non-interference. But as a child of the warfare-welfare state, she will build bridges to nowhere at home, and repeatedly blow them up overseas, without a hint of irony.