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I think now it is right-wing nutjobs and left-wing loons.

Radical vs reactionary sounds better.

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Originally posted by b50m:
I think now it is right-wing nutjobs and left-wing loons.

Radical vs reactionary sounds better.

If they are extremely left the correct terminology would be left wing ding-bat... Think Pelosi.

According to the left, radicals, loons, ding-bats or whatever you want to call them if you believe in the Constitution as written, less taxes, smaller government, and states rights then you are considered extreme.

Get real. The Constitution does not provide for an annual income tax. Or for women being allowed to vote. Lets restore the true nature of the nation that the Founding Fathers envisioned. I could really use a slave, or 2.

Juan,
Amendments count as part of the constitution. I know, that's hard for you.

Annual income tax is another debate. I'm sure juan would rather scrap the constitution and start over.

Pick one...original intent or interpreted intent??? Or do you think original intent only applies for things you agree with???

FerrelJ, it's not that the far right wants to adhere to the constitution, or lower taxes, or states rights that gets them labeled loony, it's the other things that they want to go with it. Things like creationism taught in schools, things like forcing gays back into the closet, things like the anti-abortion rhetoric. YOU may or may not believe in those things, but there are enough lunatics who DO to make voting Republican a very risky proposition.

I keep hearing about government intrusion into our lives. And yet it is the far right who is frothing at the mouth for a chance to legislate morality.

The far right is trying to appeal to emotions. The left is trying to appeal to intellect. The far right is all for the "dumbing down" of government, clamouring for "just plain folks" to take over the government. There is nothing wrong with just plain folks, but I personally believe that it should be the best and brightest among us who should be chosen as our leaders.

O no, let me get this straight. You are against creationism being taught in schools? I believe both "theories" should be taught.

I'm not sure of your position on gays but I do belive marriage should be between a man and woman. Civil unions are ok with me.

And I'm guessing you're for abortions anytime, anyplace. I think they should only be done in case of rape or to save a womans life.

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YOU may or may not believe in those things, but there are enough lunatics who DO to make voting Republican a very risky proposition.

Does that mean there are no lunatics in the Democratic party?

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I keep hearing about government intrusion into our lives.

I keep hearing that too. Can believe they're actually going to force me to buy something whether I want it or not?

You keep saying far right. How about the slightly right, are they extreme too.

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The far right is trying to appeal to emotions. The left is trying to appeal to intellect. The far right is all for the "dumbing down" of government, clamouring for "just plain folks" to take over the government. There is nothing wrong with just plain folks, but I personally believe that it should be the best and brightest among us who should be chosen as our leaders.

This is the kind of thinking that started the TEA parties. The "far far" left thinks they are the intellectuals and everyone else is just plain dumb. They think "plain folks" don't know what's good for them. What is your definition of "best and brightest"? Does that exclude "plain folks"? Are you a "plain folks" person are you an intellectual?

I AM against teaching creationism in schools. Seperation of church and state IS in the constitution, no matter what Christine O'Donnell believes. If you teach the Christian version of creation, then you'll need to teach the Hindu version, the Native American version, and on and on. (All men ARE created equal after all, so we can't leave any of them out.) I believe religion should be taught at church or at home, and science should be taught at school. And yes, I AM a Christian, but I have no problem with science. I believe that science is the way God does things.

I have no problem at all with gay marriage. If we are ALL allowed the freedom to pursue happiness (that's constitutional too) then WHY is is a problem? It hurts NO ONE. And I have no problem reconciling that belief with my Christianity. GOD judges. People should not.

As for abortion, it should be left between a woman and her doctor and her God. Government should stay out of it.

Am I "plain folks" or am I an intellectual? A little bit of both I guess. But as I said in another thread, I wouldn't want a housewife to do brain surgery on me. I wouldn't hire a bricklayer to fix my car. There is nothing wrong with being a housewife or a bricklayer, but they should stick to what they do best, or if they want to branch out, get an education. I beleive we nee QUALIFIED people to do specialized jobs, and most of the Tea Party people I have seen are just not qualified. They will be eaten alive in Washington. I love my country, and I don't want to see it fall apart. It will if too many of these unqualified people are elected.

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I beleive we nee QUALIFIED people to do specialized jobs, and most of the Tea Party people I have seen are just not qualified. They will be eaten

We'll see.

How exactly, was Obama, a junior senator of all of 18 months, with no business experience, no military experience, or even life experience (primo schools, no jobs), qualified to be the leader of the country?

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Originally posted by O No!:
FerrelJ, it's not that the far right wants to adhere to the constitution, or lower taxes, or states rights that gets them labeled loony, it's the other things that they want to go with it. Things like creationism taught in schools, things like forcing gays back into the closet, things like the anti-abortion rhetoric.

Well this is what leads to confusing definitions...Equating "Republicans" with wanting to adhere to the constitution.

The only politician on a national level I know of that really, truly supports strict construction is Ron Paul. And he and those that support him never suggest anything like that.

Also...confusing defintitions..."far right wants to adhere to the constitution"...

When did it become "far right" to support the ideas of 1787?

Obama was raised, mostly in Hawaii, by his late mother and grandparents. He graduated from Columbia University in New York and received his law degree, graduating magna cum laude, from Harvard Law School. He became the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review and later worked as a civil rights lawyer and as a community organizer in New York and Chicago. Obama was elected to the Illinois state senate in 1997, where he served as chairman of the Public Health and Welfare Committee. He and his wife, Michelle, are the parents of two daughters.

He was the third African-American to deliver a keynote address at a Democratic National Convention when he took the stage at the 2004 convention in Boston, MA. A few months later, the former law professor at the University of Chicago became the fifth African-American US senator in history, winning with a landslide 70% of the vote.

I got this from his biography at answers.com

This shows me that he is very intelligent, that he knows how to communicate with people he has experience in working with people and getting them to work with him. I'm sorry, but all of Sarah Palin's experience as governor of the least populated state in the union, and the fact that it took four different colleges to get her a four year degree don't give her anywhere NEAR the qualifications needed to be president. Obama IS qualified. That's why he was elected and I really do believe that is why McCain lost. Palin was a millstone around his neck. And it seems to me that most of these Tea Party candidates are in Palin's league.

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Originally posted by O No!:
Obama was raised, mostly in Hawaii, by his late mother and grandparents. He graduated from Columbia University in New York and received his law degree, graduating magna cum laude, from Harvard Law School. He became the first African-American president of the Harvard Law Review and later worked as a civil rights lawyer and as a community organizer in New York and Chicago. Obama was elected to the Illinois state senate in 1997, where he served as chairman of the Public Health and Welfare Committee. He and his wife, Michelle, are the parents of two daughters.

He was the third African-American to deliver a keynote address at a Democratic National Convention when he took the stage at the 2004 convention in Boston, MA. A few months later, the former law professor at the University of Chicago became the fifth African-American US senator in history, winning with a landslide 70% of the vote.

I got this from his biography at answers.com

This shows me that he is very intelligent, that he knows how to communicate with people he has experience in working with people and getting them to work with him. I'm sorry, but all of Sarah Palin's experience as governor of the least populated state in the union, and the fact that it took four different colleges to get her a four year degree don't give her anywhere NEAR the qualifications needed to be president. Obama IS qualified. That's why he was elected and I really do believe that is why McCain lost. Palin was a millstone around his neck. And it seems to me that most of these Tea Party candidates are in Palin's league.

Nice resume...but unfortunatley you seem to be displaying what the left often get accused of..."intellectual elitism".

My next statement is not to take anything away from Obama's accomplishments...or to be construed to be in support of Palin and her ilk...

But for a state rep. to US senator and even president, I truly would prefer a "common sense" type farmer to a bloviating academic with no real world experience.

Ono, I never said the guy wasn't smart. He's a lawyer, however, that could be open to interpretation. LOL

He went to elite schools paid for by grandmaw and grandpaw. He has a flashy smile and a lot of charisma. That does not equate business experience or executive experience. You can call Palin a ditz, but she has ran a business, was mayor and governor ( size does not matter in this case, state business is pretty much the same from one to another), and knows how to handle contracts and deals.

Many governors have become President, the problem this time was it was a woman.

Had Hillary won the dem primary, I was voting for her. She has the business smarts to do the job along with the foreign policy smarts.

I wish she had.

I agree with you about Hillary. If she had won the primary she would had had my vote for sure.

See, we can agree on something!

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Originally posted by O No!:
I agree with you about Hillary. If she had won the primary she would had had my vote for sure.

The only difference between Hildabeast and Obambam is Hildabeast has bigger balls.

mad.bum, are you out of sixth grade yet? If you don't like someone, give us reasons. Resorting to silly little twists of their names makes you look like, well, a mad bum!