Democrats are quivering, with fear, in their boots.

Last I found. Still doesn't say what you claimed, and you can see the context. It's my reply.

 

jtdavis posted:

I'm gonna vote for Hillary. If Trump wins, I'll wish the best for him and his programs. Because, if a president is successful, America prospers. If Hillary wins, will you all wish the best for her and her programs? 

Hell no. Why would any decent American wish the best for that evil witch and her plans to further destroy the country? Man, you must be tripping!

http://tnvalleytalks.hoop.la/t...9#535126034099987659

Gifted, I want to thank you for finding that post. Is it possible that a post containing "ain't gonna support no stinking democrat" got deleted? You aren't the one who, I think, posted it. It don't matter, before being rightie or leftie, or democrat or republican, I am American and wish the best for America.

jtdavis posted:

Gifted, I want to thank you for finding that post. Is it possible that a post containing "ain't gonna support no stinking democrat" got deleted? You aren't the one who, I think, posted it. It don't matter, before being rightie or leftie, or democrat or republican, I am American and wish the best for America.

I never saw any such post, and I don't know anyone that would delete it. From what I've seen it appears they all stand by their posts. As I posted, you should link to your claims to show the context of the posts. Even if someone posted it, when the post is shown and you see the person's reason for posting it, it is a lot different than just someone being stubborn. If it makes you feel better I'll say, I'm not going to support any stinking Democrat (You said stupid at first).

jtdavis posted:

How do you find the old posts?  I'm a retired pipefitter welder. You want an x ray weld made on a  high pressure pipe, I can do it. How y'all know all this high tech stuff is beyond me. I'm trying to learn.

I don't know if I'd trust one of your welds.

giftedamateur posted:
jtdavis posted:

Gifted, I want to thank you for finding that post. Is it possible that a post containing "ain't gonna support no stinking democrat" got deleted? You aren't the one who, I think, posted it. It don't matter, before being rightie or leftie, or democrat or republican, I am American and wish the best for America.

I never saw any such post, and I don't know anyone that would delete it. From what I've seen it appears they all stand by their posts. As I posted, you should link to your claims to show the context of the posts. Even if someone posted it, when the post is shown and you see the person's reason for posting it, it is a lot different than just someone being stubborn. If it makes you feel better I'll say, I'm not going to support any stinking Democrat (You said stupid at first).

Maybe someone "hacked" him again, wink, wink. Jt, if anyone did post it, what's your point? I see no problem with it at all and I feel the same, for reasons we all have explained.

JT, you're clueless as to the damage mobumer has done to the
country and you really don't care, if you did, you would find
those answers for yourself. But you're just another blind
running ciown drunk on liberal stupidity in the belief all is
good if the socialist are in charge, they lied to you for all
your fantasy life.........

You really can't understand anything. 

i understand that you are a low brow person

JT, you're clueless as to the damage mobumer has done to the
country and you really don't care, if you did, you would find
those answers for yourself. But you're just another blind
running ciown drunk on liberal stupidity in the belief all is
good if the socialist are in charge, they lied to you for all
your fantasy life.........
Jack , you are the clueless one. You're probably sitting a dark room with all real communication cut off.

 

jtdavis posted:

You really can't understand anything. 

i understand that you are a low brow person

JT, you're clueless as to the damage mobumer has done to the
country and you really don't care, if you did, you would find
those answers for yourself. But you're just another blind
running ciown drunk on liberal stupidity in the belief all is
good if the socialist are in charge, they lied to you for all
your fantasy life.........
Jack , you are the clueless one. You're probably sitting a dark room with all real communication cut off.

 

Is it ok if I cut on all the unreal communications.??

Don't be mad at me if you don't know what's going on, besides,
the liberal slave masters love you as a voter, tell you anything...
jtdavis posted:

Gifted, all anyone would have to do is read you postings and they would know you are low brow and uninformed

Well Jt, since you fancy your illiterite self so high brow why don't you give me a few examples of things I'm uninformed about. You, that is so stupid that you make posts then two posts down deny making them, you, that can't even copy and paste, or manage to post a link to your ridiculous claims. You, that when caught in your lies either run, claim you were hacked, or double down on your stupid posts. I never saw anyone telling you how smart you are. You're treated like a senile old uncle living in your attic.

 

giftedamateur posted:
jtdavis posted:

Gifted, all anyone would have to do is read you postings and they would know you are low brow and uninformed

Well Jt, since you fancy your illiterite self so high brow why don't you give me a few examples of things I'm uninformed about. You, that is so stupid that you make posts then two posts down deny making them, you, that can't even copy and paste, or manage to post a link to your ridiculous claims. You, that when caught in your lies either run, claim you were hacked, or double down on your stupid posts. I never saw anyone telling you how smart you are. You're treated like a senile old uncle living in your attic.

 

I doubt the "high brow" jt even gets the reference! LOL!

Bestworking posted:
giftedamateur posted:
jtdavis posted:

Gifted, all anyone would have to do is read you postings and they would know you are low brow and uninformed

Well Jt, since you fancy your illiterite self so high brow why don't you give me a few examples of things I'm uninformed about. You, that is so stupid that you make posts then two posts down deny making them, you, that can't even copy and paste, or manage to post a link to your ridiculous claims. You, that when caught in your lies either run, claim you were hacked, or double down on your stupid posts. I never saw anyone telling you how smart you are. You're treated like a senile old uncle living in your attic.

 

I doubt the "high brow" jt even gets the reference! LOL!

The sound of things flying over his head is a familiar sound.

My original point with the first post on this topic remains and even more so now.  I fully believe that the Democrats and Liberals are beside themselves, going bonkers, with fear that Trump is going to reveal their inadequacies and failures and prove that the right person can get things done when they apply themselves.  The deal with Ford keeping a Louisville Plant along with the recent announcement from Carrier  (all this BEFORE Trump assumes office) has shook many Democrats to their core and you can just image Obama and his Administration people cursing and salivating, screaming about how Trump did this to show Obama up.  

I believe Obama did this for people he cared about, the American worker and people that voted for him and those that didn't.  Since his election he has demonstrated a willingness to consider his most ardent enemies and people that opposed him as he seeks to find the "best qualified" person for the job.  That, like saving Carrier Jobs, Auto Jobs etc, has been what he has talked about for a year and a half and it wasn't done to show Obama up at all.  In fact Obama could have done the exact same thing and beat Trump to the punch but (MY OWN OPINION) the reason, I believe, he and/or His Administration did not do it is they frankly don't understand business and are still economic and business lightweights who never created a job in the first place or did anything productive but rather lived in theory and suggestions all their life.  Trump is a doer and a person that knows how to get things done and a negotiator and when viewed by American business, UNLIKE OBAMA, Trump is RESPECTED and feared to a degree.  

Unlike Obama or most other politicians Trump also doesn't owe anyone and is in no one's pockets owing favors or having to repay loyalty.  All of the above has and is making a difference and having an influence on some, previously, staunch democratic strongholds such as union members and union leaders several of which openly spoke of working against Trump and are now praising his actions to keep American Jobs here.  I fully believe Democrats and Liberals are horrified that he may just succeed and in doing so reveal how stagnant  and ineffective the politicians that should have been looking after middle America have been.  They are horrified that people may just turn from their blind allegiance and start asking questions that, frankly, Democrats are not comfortable addressing or answering.  

I love it!  The best thing is maybe, just maybe, (and there are some) some Democrats will start doing their job rather than catching a ride along on coattails and just following the party line.  There are some conscientious  Democrats out there with good ideas and the ability to do something other than play party politics.  Maybe, just maybe, they will stop being party people and start legislating and working for the American people along with some Republicans who also have been playing politics and putting their political careers above the American people they are here to represent.  Maybe, in addition to draining the swamp, he (Trump) will kick some of the lazy, complacent politicians into gear and into doing their jobs.   Maybe America will awaken to the fact that it, we, are Great Again!

I'll make one additional prediction or thought ... not only are Democrats and Liberals quaking in their boots and horrified at the progress that Trump will achieve and do what he says  but from an economic, job, and trade, position Japan, China, and Mexico are afraid and concerned and from a military respect or position many of our Adversaries are extremely concerned about a resurgent superpower, America, and our Allies and friends are finally optimistic and excited that there may be respect restored and Trust fulfilled again!

jtdavis posted:

This liberal democrat cheers Trump if he has saved good jobs for America (even if 1300 are still going to Mexico). I also cheered Obama when he saved the US automotive industry

He saved the UAW pension fund, not the auto industry.  Ford didn't need his help and Fiat is scheduled to offs**** Chrysler. 

direstraits posted:
jtdavis posted:

This liberal democrat cheers Trump if he has saved good jobs for America (even if 1300 are still going to Mexico). I also cheered Obama when he saved the US automotive industry

He saved the UAW pension fund, not the auto industry.  Ford didn't need his help and Fiat is scheduled to offs**** Chrysler. 

Bush saved the auto industry.

jtdavis posted:

This liberal democrat cheers Trump if he has saved good jobs for America (even if 1300 are still going to Mexico). I also cheered Obama when he saved the US automotive industry

Is this your source?

Carrier gets tax breaks, but it's still sending 1,300 jobs to Mexico

 

http://www.stltoday.com/busine...b1-c6b0990acab2.html

The article quotes:  but the Wall Street Journal reported the deal would save about 800 of the 1,400 jobs at the plant and about 300 at the headquarters.

So 800 Carrier Indianapolis plant jobs saved at the plant + 300 more saved at HQ = 1100 saved.

And 600 jobs lost at the plant [1,400 - 800 saved = 600 lost].

Where are the remaining 700 jobs lost coming from to make 1.300?  Not from Carrier.  They are coming from it's parent company United Technologies which is closing a subsidiary UT Electrontic Controls located in Huntington.  In short, UTEC were never part of the Trump - Carrier deal.

So JT, what's your opinion on these 700 ghost riders? 

Why would the liberal press combine them?  These 700?  First to diminish Trumps success while at the same time camouflaging the failures of the Obama administration.  It is because of the last 8 years of our lame duck administration that Carrier, UT, and UTEC were heading to Mexico to begin with and did nothing to stop it.  Only thing remotely akin to it was Hillary wanted to close down the coal industry.

Wonder how many welders would have lost their jobs in her administration.  No wonder the blue collar workers voted against her.

 

jtdavis posted:

This liberal democrat cheers Trump if he has saved good jobs for America (even if 1300 are still going to Mexico). I also cheered Obama when he saved the US automotive industry

Actually Ol'bama screwed other pension funds that had bonds in GM and Chrysler and also the taxpayer in general. Everything that was done could have been done in bankruptcy court just like other industries like the airlines.

http://www.heritage.org/resear...g-union-compensation

giftedamateur posted:

I thought Jt was going to "support" Trump. Looks like he fibbed again.

I knew that was going to happen, he just started earlier than I figured. But then again, he didn't think Trump would win, and that he would be whining at us about the things we said about hilliary.

jtdavis posted:

Bush saved the auto industry.

Best, are you actually that uninformed???

No, but as usual you are. But you don't care about the truth, the "rest of the story".  All you care about is spreading demoslops lies. You're so stupid and inept that it's sickening.

 

Barack Obama, however, cannot claim full credit for this outcome. According to several experts, he needs to share it with his predecessor, President George W. Bush. Dr. James Rubenstein at Miami University co-wrote a post-bankruptcy assessment for the Federal Reserve Bank of Chicago. Rubenstein said no one should overlook the importance of Bush’s decision to use $17.6 billion in TARP money in December 2008 to keep General Motors and Chrysler afloat.

"The Bush Administration provided short-term bridge loans," Rubenstein said. "That allowed the Obama Administration to take a couple of months to assess the situation."

Aaron Bragman, the lead American automotive analyst for the financial forecasting group IHS Automotive, echoed the point. "The Bush administration is the one that actually acted to save them from an uncontrolled bankruptcy and shutdown," Bragman said. "The Obama administration's role was to fix them."

 

http://www.newyorker.com/news/...d-out-the-automakers

http://articles.chicagotribune...ndustry-barack-Obama

http://www.reuters.com/article...dUSL1N0JO0XU20131209

http://www.politifact.com/trut...automobile-industry/

 

jtdavis posted:

So you admit that Bush gave short term loans, Obama got the long term fix.  The short term loans were in 2008 after the Bush economy had wrecked the auto industry.

You're an idiot. Obama just rode Bush's coat tail. Bush's economy didn't "wreck the auto industry". Unions killed the auto industry.

 

 BTW, unions are still here. - JT

You talking about what the MSM called those "blue collar workers" in the Rust Belt and Coal Country  that the Clintonites took for granted and at the same time called "undereducated" and "deplorables" who were smart enough to see [what you cannot] that jobs were more important than BS and voted for Trump?

Yep.  The unions are still here, but their train to Make America Great Again left without you.

Adios, liberal.  Enjoy Mexico.

 

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