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Sure there were people that hated the outcome of both Obama wins but the Trump defeat of Hillary or the defeat of a Democrat is bringing out in droves the sore losers who are trying with their all to get this election overtuned in the  electorial college.   Democrats are trying their best to try and delegitimize the election and find some way to get the electorial college to not vote Trump in as President. 

In essense there is a large number of liberals wishing or trying to overurn a legitimate election as if we were some dictatorship or Communistic country.  Others, specifically in California are active trying to create a situation where California can vote to leave the union of the United States. 

In essense we are witnessing the biggest group of whiny sniveling cry babies being sore losers and failing to accept a legitmate thrashing where most states and peoplel told the Democrats to go pound sand and that we don't want them interfering in our lives and telling us how to live by their standards and by their agenda.

Be as the Bereans ( Acts 17:11 )

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Naio posted:

And let us not forget Mitch Mcconnell wanting Obama to be a one-term president, the birthers, and Texas wanting to secede from the union of the United States.

Lets join together and call out all these crybabies....

Fair IS Fair and yes there was, after a while, some in Texas that were seeking to leave the union but it was just a small fringe group that went no where and wasn't immediately after, or as is now before Obama was ever sworn into office in 2008 but rather I believe that happened after his 2012 re-election , if I am right, when it was evident that Obama wasn't caring one bit about the Constitution but was going to rule by Executive Action.  In California they have actually got a large viable group actively pursuing a vote and securing money to do so all before Trump is sworn in or given a chance.  

Also there was never a move to attempt to get the Electoral college to overturn a legitimate pubic vote that was certified and accurate as is being done now by liberals and democrats and all before Donald Trump is even sworn into office.  Even to the point of threats against the lives of some of the people that will vote in attempts to overturn a legitimate election.  While your point about Mitch McConnell wanting Obama to be a one term president may be accurate that's only a top Republican saying that I hope he loses in the "next" election.  What's going on now is a large number of liberals, and democrats and democrat politicians trying to overturn, by way of getting the Electoral college to change their votes, a legitimate election by the people. 

I'm sorry but that's a very vastly different thing than what you cited. What you have is people trying and attempting to overturn the election that they were sure they were going to win.  They are seeking to find any excuse to de-legitimize the election of Donald Trump and get the Electoral College to deny him the election he won.  It's one thing to hate you lost or moan and groan about it but it's a total different thing when people are moving to overthrow a legitimately elected official in a legitimate election. 

Also remember, before the election, the tongue lashing and harassment Donald Trump took when he dared to say he might question the integrity of the election?  You would have thought he was to be taken out, drawn and quartered and for sure have his citizenship taken away all because he was questioning whether or not the election might be tainted by allowing illegals to vote in Florida and California.  Hillary berated him publically and during the debate but WHO IS IT participating in request to recount the election in some states?  HILLARY!  Such outright blatant hypocrisy on the part of Democrats and the National Media many of whom are participating actively and openly in trying to get Trump's election overturned stating it is a danger to America.

I'll stick by my initial observation and believe Democrats and Liberals are far more babies when it comes to losing elections.  Republicans may have disliked Obama getting elected or re-elected but they didn't seek to overturn his election.  Furthermore the Republican led Congress also agreed beforehand that impeachment would be taken off the table as a tool that they could use to battle the President who was intent on bypassing Congress all together to get his way and agenda  passed.  Remember also that it was Harry Reid that implemented the "Nuclear Option" in Congress allowing for majority rule and doing away with the power of the filibuster when it came to approvals of appointed positions.  Now the Democrats, or some of them, are complaining about that and wanting the filibuster back.  

Bear in mind, in full disclosure, I voted Democrat before and was an independent voter up and until I saw a dangerous move by the Democrats in entirety when they shoved through Democratic Healthcare (aka Obamacare) and thankfully ever since then it's been the KISS OF political DEATH for all Democrats who had anything to do with it and could be greatly responsible for the huge Republican takeover of the House, Senate, and most State's Governments and now the Presidency.  Bad things tend to happen when you go against the Constitution and unfortunately the republicans are about to do the same if they move to replace Obamacare with something else.  Any student of the Constitution and what it means should know that the founders NEVER meant for the federal Government to have that kind of control over the citizens and although Justice John Roberts found a way to claim it was legal everyone knows it, as it was passed, was not a tax and therefore unconstitutional.

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http://nypost.com/2016/12/15/c...-vote-against-trump/

The above link leads to a video that many Hollywood, Liberals, created in order to attempt to get the Electoral College voters to change their vote.  They are openly stating that they are not telling them to vote for Hillary but then they openly are targeting ONLY the republican electors that would vote for Trump. 

Here is the typical, Liberal game plan, so predictable thing about this.  Look at the group that has created this and what they call themselves.  "Unite for America" and use the hashtag #SupportTheElectors.  Now think about what is truth!

First these very people by virtue of their short recording and what they are doing are trying everything BUT UNITEing people and the nation.  What they are doing is, in effect, attempting a takeover of the nation and circumventing the outcome of a legal election.   The Hillary camp and Hillary who berated Donald Trump, for even daring to questiona potential just election or by exercising his right to say he would withhold accepting the election until he was further informed or saw how things played out,  is herself REMAINING SILENT allowing such to go on.  If she was truthful to her word (two words that should never be used in the same sentence, much less paragraph, Hillary and Truth) then she would voice loud and openly for all these movements to stop immediatly that they are doing nothing but causing divisions and dissention.  Hillary though is such a hypocrit though so it's expected she would say, and do, nothing.

Getting back to this group, that made the video, using the hashtag (#) Support the Electors are acctually doing nothing close to supporting the electors but are doing everything in their power and wealth to put pressure on the electors not to support them but have them change their minds and rob a legitimatly elected President Elect turned away and a legitimate and legal election overturned by a handfull of citizens who make up the Electorial College all and only because they lost the legitimate way that Presidents are elected. 

If it were not for the fact that these people are dyed in the wool, completely obsessed and distressed liberals with certain measures of brain damage so deranged that they do good to make it through a day functioning in the world around them, I would say that they were guilty of treason or for certain recommending Treasonous actions.   There was a time that actions such as this would be considered inciting people to comit treason and would be jailed, if not worse.  These are people, though, that live in an alternate reality where they work and make their living BECOMING and BEING other people, other than themselves in a world that is everything but real and rational.  So I suppose one could argue, successfully, that there is reason to understand their actions and their personal beliefs about the election.

Myself I have a different view of it and the way I see it they are just conforming to the topic of this particular thread.  Cry Baby, Whiny, Sore Losers. 

gbrk posted:

http://nypost.com/2016/12/15/c...-vote-against-trump/

The above link leads to a video that many Hollywood, Liberals, created in order to attempt to get the Electoral College voters to change their vote.  They are openly stating that they are not telling them to vote for Hillary but then they openly are targeting ONLY the republican electors that would vote for Trump. 

Here is the typical, Liberal game plan, so predictable thing about this.  Look at the group that has created this and what they call themselves.  "Unite for America" and use the hashtag #SupportTheElectors.  Now think about what is truth!

First these very people by virtue of their short recording and what they are doing are trying everything BUT UNITEing people and the nation.  What they are doing is, in effect, attempting a takeover of the nation and circumventing the outcome of a legal election.   The Hillary camp and Hillary who berated Donald Trump, for even daring to questiona potential just election or by exercising his right to say he would withhold accepting the election until he was further informed or saw how things played out,  is herself REMAINING SILENT allowing such to go on.  If she was truthful to her word (two words that should never be used in the same sentence, much less paragraph, Hillary and Truth) then she would voice loud and openly for all these movements to stop immediatly that they are doing nothing but causing divisions and dissention.  Hillary though is such a hypocrit though so it's expected she would say, and do, nothing.

Getting back to this group, that made the video, using the hashtag (#) Support the Electors are acctually doing nothing close to supporting the electors but are doing everything in their power and wealth to put pressure on the electors not to support them but have them change their minds and rob a legitimatly elected President Elect turned away and a legitimate and legal election overturned by a handfull of citizens who make up the Electorial College all and only because they lost the legitimate way that Presidents are elected. 

If it were not for the fact that these people are dyed in the wool, completely obsessed and distressed liberals with certain measures of brain damage so deranged that they do good to make it through a day functioning in the world around them, I would say that they were guilty of treason or for certain recommending Treasonous actions.   There was a time that actions such as this would be considered inciting people to comit treason and would be jailed, if not worse.  These are people, though, that live in an alternate reality where they work and make their living BECOMING and BEING other people, other than themselves in a world that is everything but real and rational.  So I suppose one could argue, successfully, that there is reason to understand their actions and their personal beliefs about the election.

Myself I have a different view of it and the way I see it they are just conforming to the topic of this particular thread.  Cry Baby, Whiny, Sore Losers. 

Did you notice that most of them are has beens?  I was disappointed in Noah Wyle. I liked him in Falling Skies and the Librarian series.

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