Don't worry..

Some of the professionals telling how to cope with this outbreak don't have a complete respect for the truth.

Don't worry. Ebola is a boodborne pathogen, not an airborne one like the flu virus.  Unless you have been in direct physical contact with the bodily fluids (blood, saliva, urine, *****, etc.) of an infected person or have eaten infected West African bushmeat, you WILL NOT contract Ebola.

  So no sharing your unsterilized needles, passing the bottle around, no swapping spit or unprotected sex, and no monkey steaks.  Got it ?  Sheesh!  With all the medical professionals around here have you never heard of ' universal precautions?'.  Oh, wait.... But then we couldn't blame the president.....

That's all supposedly true but how did the NBC News camera man get it?   It may be a irrational fear but we are being told all this from the same people that said it wasn't coming here.

`Ebola is hard to catch.  Either, touching something with fruit bat guano on it, or eating monkey rare were the original vectors.  RP is correct on the means one will catch it.  Meanwhile, about 35,000 will dies from the flu and 23,000 from MERSA in the USA, this year.  If, Ebola mutates to an airborne strain, probably in Africa, then it will probably spread like wildfire. 

RP, isn't that the same advice that was given out to stop the spread of AIDS? How well did that work? Seems that one political party said you can not dictate how people live their lives. It is up to the Government to find a cure not up to the individual to stop their behavior.

As medical professional, I will let you know what I have learned from sources.  Evidently, the Dallas patient has a mutated form of the Zaire strain of Ebola.  It happens with every viral illness, as the virus tends to mutate often during the infection so that by the time it is well into its epidemic, it may look nothing like the original.  At this point at least 3000 people have died, all in Africa.  This man was exposed while carrying the dead body of a relative in Africa who had died from the disease. He then traveled to the US and developed symptoms about a week or so later. Originally he went to the ER where he was seen and sent home with antibiotics. This was a failure on the part of the hospital system since IF he told them of his recent travels he should have been suspected early on.  He returned home and further exposed numerous others including several children.  When he did not improve they called an ambulance and he was taken to the hospital and admitted.  It took about three days to confirm he had it, and during that time the ambulance was used to transfer patients, although hopefully it was cleaned very good.  prior to it s use.

IF this variant of the disease has become airborne, then you can look for those who were loosely associated with him in the same household to seroconvert pretty quickly.  They will be following these people closely to see if they show any evidence of antibody formation in their serum.  If they do, and there was no direct blood / body fluid contact, they will assume there has been some form of airborne mutation.

I don't know how the cameraman got it, but in the conditions of these villages and clinics in Africa it would not be hard to come into contact with infected material.  My guess is that the entire area is a hot zone. In the early 90's when Ebola Reston was discovered in Reston, Va at a monkey facility right outside of Washington DC, several of the workers seroconverted, proving that this virus can be transmitted by aerosalization, so it is not outside the realm of possibility.  At this time however, the Zaire serotype does not appear to be capable of transmission in this fashion.

CDC and health department alerts are being sent out daily in regards to Ebola Virus Disease (EVD) and there is a published algorhythm to use in order to rate the probability of exposure. Testing cannot be done at typical hospitals and will require confirmation at the CDC labs which can take several days which contributes to the confusion.  Recently an inmate in the Gerogia jail supposedly feigned illness and there was a public outcry that Ebola was present in the jails of Atlanta, which was a lie.

Its my understanding that the Reston Ebola was a simian variant, that mutated when it absorbed genes from a simian hemorrhagic fever virus.  It wasn't harmful to people, but does show the viruses can change.

I've read that bacteria may do the same.  Japanese can eat seaweed and digest the nutrients, while others can't.  They ate fresh seaweed for generations. A bacteria on the seaweed shared DNA with the bacteria in their guts and now the Japanese can digest the nutrients. 

I think somebody is lying to prevent a panic

or lying to try to START a panic.. depending on the 'politics'.

I don't think anyone is really lying.  The truth is they really don't know.  They waited too long before putting any type of quarantine measures into place over there, which is why it spread throughout the whole of Africa. Fanatics like Farrakhan saying this was invented to kill black people and dumbazzes on TV saying it is spreading in the air are the types which add to the confusion.  Remember that about 30-35% of the population barely have a high school education, will hang on everything they hear from the internet as a source directly from the good Lord almighty, and don't have a clue what they are talking about.

Believe me, if this thing were airborne and virulent, it will declare itself, and at this point it is too late to do much about it. The biggest issue is treating those who get sick, since very little can be done for them but supportive care.

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The primary bodily fluids through which AIDS is transmitted are blood and semen.  Saliva and sweat and ***** do not count unless they are contaminated by blood carrying the virus.  AIDS could well have been prevented or largely restricted if certain immoral and perverted persons had taken precautions to avoid contact with blood and semen. With Ebola, substantially more risk is involved because more bodily fluids are capable of transmission.

If, the civil rights extremists hadn't interfered, AIDS would be a minor problem. Lawyers stopped closing of bath houses and quarantine, which allowed the disease to spread. Except for contact thru contaminated needles and such, it requires irresponsible actions of two people to pass on AIDS. 

Saw a doctor say that treating persons with Ebola here taught them that re-hydration was a major method for recovery.-- you  think!

"At the height of WWI, history’s most lethal influenza virus erupted in an army camp in Kansas, moved east with American troops, then exploded, killing as many as 100 million people worldwide. It killed more people in twenty-four months than AIDS killed in twenty-four years, more in a year than the Black Death killed in a century. But this was not the Middle Ages, and 1918 marked the first collision of science and epidemic disease. Magisterial in its breadth of perspective and depth of research and now revised to reflect the growing danger of the avian flu, The Great Influenza is ultimately a tale of triumph amid tragedy, which provides us with a precise and sobering model as we confront the epidemics looming on our own horizon. John M. Barry has written a new afterword for this edition that brings us up to speed on the terrible threat of the avian flu and suggest ways in which we might head off another flu pandemic."

The above is from Amazon.com's description of the very fine historical account of The Great Influenza, by John M. Barry.

Next to that calamity, Ebola is child's play.

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For any condition that produces acute diarrhea, re-hydration is an absolute necessity!

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Yes, by 1918, the use of prophylaxis, quarantine and basic sanitation were know. If they couldn't cure or prevent a disease, they knew to keep it from spreading.  Some things, like heating surgical instruments to prevent inflection, were know by the Romans, but lost in the fall of the empire -- took us a thousand years to rediscover it.

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Yes, and I have not contracted HIV/AIDS, nor Ebola.  I didn't even really have to try hard or even actually think about it.  I'd say in *my* case, it worked outstandingly well.  How's it working out for you?

Some Ebola experts worry virus may spread more easily than assumed

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"U.S. officials leading the fight against history's worst outbreak of Ebola have said they know the ways the virus is spread and how to stop it. They say that unless an air traveler from disease-ravaged West Africa has a fever of at least 101.5 degrees or other symptoms, co-passengers are not at risk....

Yet some scientists who have long studied Ebola say such assurances are premature — and they are concerned about what is not known about the strain now on the loose. It is an Ebola outbreak like none seen before, jumping from the bush to urban areas, giving the virus more opportunities to evolve as it passes through multiple human hosts.

Dr. C.J. Peters, who battled a 1989 outbreak of the virus among research monkeys housed in Virginia and who later led the CDC's most far-reaching study of Ebola's transmissibility in humans, said he would not rule out the possibility that it spreads through the air in tight quarters.

"We just don't have the data to exclude it," said Peters, who continues to research viral diseases at the University of Texas in Galveston....

The researchers reached in recent days for this article cited grounds to question U.S. officials' assumptions in three categories.

One issue is whether airport screenings of prospective travelers to the U.S. from West Africa can reliably detect those who might have Ebola. Frieden has said the CDC protocols used at West African airports can be relied on to prevent more infected passengers from coming to the U.S.

"One hundred percent of the individuals getting on planes are screened for fever before they get on the plane," Frieden said Sept. 30. "And if they have a fever, they are pulled out of the line, assessed for Ebola, and don't fly unless Ebola is ruled out."

Individuals who have flown recently from one or more of the affected countries suggested that travelers could easily subvert the screening procedures — and might have incentive to do so: Compared with the depleted medical resources in the West African countries of Liberia, Sierra Leone and Guinea, the prospect of hospital care in the U.S. may offer an Ebola-exposed person the only chance to survive.

A person could pass body temperature checks performed at the airports by taking ibuprofen or any common analgesic. And prospective passengers have much to fear from identifying themselves as sick, said Kim Beer, a resident of Freetown, the capital of Sierra Leone, who is working to get medical supplies into the country to cope with Ebola.

"It is highly unlikely that someone would acknowledge having a fever, or simply feeling unwell," Beer said via email. "Not only will they probably not get on the flight — they may even be taken to/required to go to a 'holding facility' where they would have to stay for days until it is confirmed that it is not caused by Ebola. That is just about the last place one would want to go."

CDC officials also say that asymptomatic patients cannot spread Ebola. This assumption is crucial for assessing how many people are at risk of getting the disease. Yet diagnosing a symptom can depend on subjective understandings of what constitutes a symptom, and some may not be easily recognizable. Is a person mildly fatigued because of short sleep the night before a flight — or because of the early onset of disease?

Moreover, said some public health specialists, there is no proof that a person infected — but who lacks symptoms — could not spread the virus to others.

"It's really unclear," said Michael Osterholm, a public health scientist at the University of Minnesota who recently served on the U.S. government's National Science Advisory Board for Biosecurity. "None of us know."

Finally, some also question the official assertion that Ebola cannot be transmitted through the air. In late 1989, virus researcher Charles L. Bailey supervised the government's response to an outbreak of Ebola among several dozen rhesus monkeys housed for research in Reston, Va., a suburb of Washington.

What Bailey learned from the episode informs his suspicion that the current strain of Ebola afflicting humans might be spread through tiny liquid droplets propelled into the air by coughing or sneezing.

"We know for a fact that the virus occurs in sputum and no one has ever done a study [disproving that] coughing or sneezing is a viable means of transmitting," he said. Unqualified assurances that Ebola is not spread through the air, Bailey said, are "misleading."

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I think they are lying in order to spread fear. Fear of Ebola, fear of Isis, fear of Mexicans, Fear of Muslims, === doesn't matter what it is , just spread fear. If you can make people afraid, then you can tell them you are the only one who can protect them, and you can then control them.

Bush administration used this tactic all the time. Be afraid, be very afraid.

And, of course, there was Janet Napolitano, who assured us that returning veterans and anyone opposing illegal immigration or abortion were major terror suspects.

give up, dire.. anyone with cable tv can see the party of 'fear mongering'. plain and simple.

I fart in ALL Libs direction....

And make more sense then than when you talk or type

C.J. Peters is the expert when it comes to Ebola.  If he says it, I believe it.  he has spent more time studying this virus in the Level IV labs than anyone I know, and I echo his feelings. Though it may not spread in the air like the flu, in close quarters it is likely to be spread via droplets, which may explain how the nurse aid in Spain has contracted the disease.  There is much we don't know. A little fear of the unknown may not be such a bad thing.  Caution is a good thing when dealing with these organisms.

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Cause he's speaking the dems language. Hot air and talk that comes out of their or others ****** are all dems understand.

Cause he's speaking the dems language. Hot air and talk that comes out of their or others ****** are all dems understand.

Just so you check the source

So it is easily treatable huh????  I guess not as he has died!!!

http://news.yahoo.com/ebola-pa...pital-201613535.html

Well I guess the Liberians will have to look elsewhere for someone to prosecute now...

"It is unclear if Duncan knew the woman had Ebola, but Liberian government officials said they plan to prosecute him for lying on health forms he completed at the airport on Sept. 19."

If the border had been closed and a better job done of screening these people it would not be spreading to the surrounding countries.  Thankfully the disease outbreak appears to be on the downswing at the moment, but this is by far the biggest outbreak in known history, with another outbreak of Marburg virus, another Hemorrhagic Fever, occurring in another section of Africa at this very time.

And this is the typical response...

http://www.opposingviews.com/i...estion-his-treatment

Now the family wants to, under the guidance of the one and only Jesse Jackson, file a suit against the hospital who worked tirelessly to save the man, putting many employees in harm's way in an effort to save his life.  Let's disregard the fact that he lied about previous exposure, got on a plane in a country rife with the disease, and entered America on a "temporary visa", with no insurance.  There is no known cure nor effective medication for the virus, it is all experimental, and to date about 80% of those who have gotten this virus have died. Not to mention there are now numerous people, some who have begun to show symptoms, in this country whom he interacted. Yet, Jackson wishes to play the race card.  Is there no decency left in this country any more?

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In the case of the "reverands" Jackson and Sharpton, the answer , sadly , is no.
However, yes, there are a lot of good and decent people out there who don't get the microphone of those two. Racism for sure is still around, but for those two, and a few more like them, their time has come and gone.

This is just another example of a group of idiots who have no idea what they are doing.  This woman should have been put into isolation immediately and not allowed to travel.  they knew she was exposed to the disease and had the potential to develop it, yet she was allowed to travel. This is why people who do not have a clue about communicable diseases do not need to be making policy.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/15/...index.html?hpt=hp_t1

The most dangerous place on Earth is the land occupied by ISIS.  The second most dangerous is the space between Al Sharpton and a TV camera,  Ebola comes in third.

TVA equipped hospitals, (Decatur and ECM, I think) with anti contamination garments in case a worker  got injured and needed hospital care and was contaminated with radioactive material.  The event happened, the worker was not critical, but needed care. He watched a comedy show occur at the hospital.  First was the argument as to which nurse would be the one to check and care for him. After that the one trying to put on the protective clothing had to be instructed by the patient. There had been no training given to her. He was checked and was ok.

I think this is the same thing in Texas, no training, no correct procedures for containment, no training for contaminated material disposal. was there a "clean room" to remove clothing, was there any sealable containers for contaminated material? 

The statement has already been in the news that the nurse didn't follow procedures correctly.  Has the hospital CEO been quizzed about training and equipment? Is the CEO the one trying to put the blame on the nurse?

I think we've been lied to about risks and dangers.

Don't know about your friend from TVA and his experience, but I can tell you that the nurses followed the procedures they were given according to the hospital.  The problem lies in the fact that the CDC has been very negligent in getting the correct information to people. Barrier protection includes gown, shoe covers, double gloves, mask and face cover with hair protection.  Now the CDC is blaming the nurses saying they should have had ALL of their skin covered.  Really?  Do any of you remember the CDC spokesperson telling everyone that you get this from blood and body fluid exposure? The correct procedures in the US hospital is just what I described. Supposedly, the only thing "bare" on these people were the skin on their necks.  Now the CDC is saying that there are four more workers who are being watched really closely, which likely means they could be showing some signs of the diseases (low grade fever).

These people were supposed to be on travel restrictions, that is what quarantine typically means, however the powers that be have not seen to it correctly and now we have the potential of at least 150 more people exposed to someone who in all probability was shedding virus when she traveled to another city.

BTW, ECM I know for a fact has addressed the situation and have purchased Tyvek (rubber suits with air module) for employee use in case of a patient. They currently have procedures in place, but let us hope that no place, including our own, has to use these procedures.

I've read of CDC and NIH making rather ridiculous studies costing millions,  It appears they neglected their core responsibility.