Originally Posted by teyates:
Sorry Jank, I wouldn't want to get your blood pressure up, you would expect someone to take care of you if you stroked out....haha.
Yes, your liberal ideal of a "right" is exactly like what I referred to. You insinuate that it is your right to receive medical care, and that if it is such a "right", regardless of whether it is fairly compensated for or not, you expect to receive it. There were acts in place to take care of the uninsured in emergency situation prior to the ACA. What we are seeing now the ACA is exactly what some of us predicted to begin with. Those who chose not to insure themselves, but could afford it, continue to balk at the idea of buying insurance. Now however when they do get sick, or develop a cancer, they can go out an buy the best coverage they can afford and the insurance company has to take care of it. Ironically, now that extra costs is passed on to us with the ACA tax and increased rates. Each month my BCBS bill shows that on top of my already high rate, I pay about $78 for the Healthcare Tax. That equals out to about $860 per year, then I am tagged again on my return with higher rates and other assorted goodies. Bitter? Yep, I guess you could say that. I am sick and tired of trying to provide for my family's coverage and then being penalized by higher rates to provide for someone else. Now the Dems in Congress are proposing a new brick to stack on the camel's back. They want to do away with the penalty for THOSE WHO DO NOT BUY COVERAGE....What? I thought that was what this whole ACA was about? Now this idiots want to do away with the penalty on the very ones who they are giving money to to supplement their coverage. These same ones now show up at the ER with no insurance and no plans to pay for their care. The ACA did not nothing but create more of a headache for providers and then turned around and gave the offenders a "get out of jail" free card.
Exactly what kind of work do you do Jank? Do you expect to be compensated for enough to cover your expenses for the job you do? Do you wait 60-80 days from the time you do your work until you are paid for it? Do you get all that you bill? Do you hand those you serve a bill, or are you forced to submit a ream of paperwork electronically, and pay someone 10% of whatever you bill to take care of that for you?
I don't really care if you dislike my moronic statements or not. Feel free to ignore them. Most of them typically inflame the Liberal peabrain anyways, and we all know that you are not satisfied with the healthcare you get in this country. I would hate for you to show up to get your head out of your tail.
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Once again you have created the argument in your own head. Show me where I said I want free healthcare. You keep going back to the ACA as if I am championing it. I am not. It is better than what we had, yes, but not much. It fixed very few problems. It was gutted so deeply from its original form that it didn't go far enough. What we need and what liberals want is universal healthcare. We don't think its free either. Maybe if I just keep it real simple for you and not go into any detail at all you can focus on what I am actually saying instead of dream up what you "think" I say or mean.
I don't expect free healthcare.
I believe universal healthcare is a better system.
I think our current and past healthcare system is a failure.
I don't think the ACA went far enough.
I've been upset with the high cost of healthcare for a very long time. I can sympathize with your bitterness over the cost. I too feel that the cost of healthcare is not justifiable. It's hard when you are trying to provide for your family and a huge portion of what you earn has to go to protect yourself from the high cost of getting sick. Health insurance premiums practically stood still (on average) this last year. I for one am relieved to see it slowing down. It was too high to start with though, so I would like to see us find a better way. To me that is universal healthcare.
http://www.ncsl.org/research/h...urance-premiums.aspx
Updated January 2015
The increased cost of health insurance is a central fact in any discussion of health policy and health delivery. As annual premiums edged beyond $16,800 for an average family, costs are blamed for rising uninsured and "under-insurance." For those Americans who are fully-covered, these cost realities affect employers, both large and small, not to mention the "pocket-book impact" on ordinary families.
Analysis of 2015 Health Premiums Finds Average Nationwide is Flat.
A new analysis of the Affordable Care Act’s health insurance marketplace costs finds that, nationwide, marketplace premiums did not increase at all from 2014 to 2015, though there were substantial average premium increases in some states and declines in others. The average premiums for the second lowest-cost silver plan—or benchmark plan for calculating the federal subsidy in a given state—were also unchanged. And the average deductible for a marketplace plan increased by just 1 percent year to year.
The 0 percent change in average premiums is unprecedented when compared with historic trends in both the individual insurance market and employer-based health insurance. Prior to the passage of the Affordable Care Act, from 2008 to 2010, premiums grew an average 10 percent or more per year in state individual insurance markets. Many factors underlie this year’s stability in marketplace premiums, but three important contributors were: an increase in the number of participating insurance carriers; the design of the marketplaces; and the risk stabilization programs for participating insurers. The premiums presented are for a 40-year-old nonsmoker. See Table 1 below. Results are weighted to reflect the population distribution across rating regions. The data for single and family premiums are available in an interactive map.