Ebola nurse Kaci Hickox rejects home quarantine rules.

Chris Christie is a fat conniving weasel whose every action and utterance are purely political.

He backed down on the Hickox quarantine because he did not want the embarrassment of having to defend his actions in court.

She's a ***** that shouldn't even have been allowed back into the country before her *** was quarantined. Christie has nothing to do with it, and I don't see where you get he 'backed down'.  At least her mug is out there and that, hopefully, will help people avoid her.

Actually he did what I'd hope our governor would do, and got her *** out of there.

Do not understand go to Africa for a long time and object to staying at home for 21 days because it is to harsh????   If you go get in thick of it and know you were exposed not too much to ask that be quarantined at home for public safety.   All it would take is a sneeze from someone who is contagious to give it to someone.   If someone did violate a quarantine they should be prosecuted for murder if they pass it on to someone else and they die.  Ironically they are quarantining the military service members returning from area.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/...int-chiefs/18108613/

The crazy part from the above link, especially since the service members are not generally in direct contact with the Ebola patients as they are building infrastructure.

However, President Obama appeared to acknowledge a distinction between a military requirement to isolate troops and his view that mandatory quarantines not be imposed upon civilian medical volunteers returning from West Africa.

"The military is a different situation, obviously. They are not there voluntarily; it's part of their mission that's been assigned to them by their commanders and ultimately by me, the commander in chief," he told reporters Tuesday. "So we don't expect to have similar rules for our military as we do for civilians."

She should not have been placed in quarantine in conditions worse than any prison in America. Now she has been able to go home. She needs to stay there and keep her mouth shut.

I think it's to late for that. She already has a lawyer and smells the money.

Kaci Hickox, that sounds like a movie star already.

Christie should activate an army engineer battalion for two weeks. They can erect the shell of a WWII style barracks in one day.  In one week, they could have it wired, plumbing in and ready for the winter.  Millions of our grandfathers, fathers and myself spent months in them.  Outfit it with WiFi and a couple of TVs and other basic amenities..  Two (one for women and one for men) should be enough for most states.

Dire, remember, Christies one of your guys. he may be the one you vote for next.

Instead of activating guards or reservists, why not hire a few construction supervisors and hire some of those unemployed Africans to build the hospitals?

every case of ebola , in the US, came from helping someone...  none of you republicans are in any danger of catching it.

What attitudes exactly? Do you mean concern? Have you noticed the world we live in? No one cares about anyone else anymore. People with aids infect others on purpose. This nurse is not willing to give up 21 days to make people feel better and more secure. What does that say about her? How about the nurse all decked out in her 'protective' garb and was still infected? When did caution and concern turn to 'hysteria'? I'm sorry, but from your attitude it's very hard to believe you worked in the health field.

If I refuse to go by the guidelines set forth by my licensing agency then I face the revocation of my license. if I continue to 'buck' the system then I face jail time, look at Dan Beavers for example!

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Army engineer battalions are trained to erect such facilities quickly and cheaply.  Contract it out and it'll take weeks and cost 25 times as much.

As a reminder, the doctor, who helped people, then traveled all over NYC.  Then, initially lied to the police and health personnel about it, after he exhibited symptoms of Ebola.  Curious mindset for caring person.  

For returning personnel from aiding victims in Africa, I have no problem with establishing a fund to pay them for any financial losses during their quarantine.  

Curious mindset for caring person.  

Exactly my point about the nurse.

Army engineer battalions are trained to erect such facilities quickly and cheaply.  Contract it out and it'll take weeks and cost 25 times as much.

If it is a no bid Haliburton contract it would.

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Halliburton has a permanent presence in the Middle East -- building camps and determining how to est exploit petroleum in the area.  They receive those initial no bid, short term contracts as they were the only source in town.  Later contracts were longer term and bids were taken,  That said, yes, as I stated contracting would cost more and take longer for simple facilities. 

JJ's post went intelligently to the subject matter and correctly described  the hysteria-based nonsense now being pursued by the several governors who have responded to this non-crisis.  Meanwhile, have you gotten your flu shot?  There has been one death from Ebola in the U.S. thus far.  Thousands in  the U.S. will die unnecessarily of the flu this winter because the did not get vaccinated.

Kaci Hickox is not on my heroes list. She stood up to ignorance and panic and backed off the weasely (probably the world's fattest weasel at that) hothead governor of New Jersey.

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Most of those who die of the flu are the very elderly -- many of whom were vaccinated -- because their immune system is extremely weak.  Unless, we placed millions of them in quarantine for six months of the year, they will continue to pass away.  Again, the doctor that lied is the proof of why quarantine is a good idea.

The original Democrat fat  weasel, Ted Kennedy, has passed from the scene,  Christie hasn't illed anyone by neglect or plan, yet.  Has he!

Kaci Hickox is not on my heroes list. She stood up to ignorance and panic and backed off the weasely (probably the world's fattest weasel at that) hothead governor of New Jersey.

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You are so lame. Christie did nothing wrong.  With her attitude she should never be allowed to work in the health field again.

FORT KENT, Maine — Gov. Paul LePage said Thursday that talks with nurse Kaci Hickox had broken down and that he is ready to exercise the "full extent" of his authority to force her to adhere to a 21-day quarantine aimed at Ebola health workers.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/...quarantine/18166889/

Interestingly, Katie's roommate, who never traveled to Africa is testing positive according to some sources. I have news for you.  This disease is not very well scripted.  It does not follow the book.  It can and will do what it wants.  Christie was right, Obama and Katie are wrong.  The first rule in Public health 101 is that people should be put into a place of quarantine if the rest of the populace has no definable immunity to the disease. I think the fact that she was willing to go to Africa and work in such "harsh" conditions, yet feels like she is being put out to be quarantined, says a lot about her true "helping spirit". She should have her nurse's license pulled for review until she takes a public health course.

Is one part of the governors job to protect the general public?

jt,

It is obviously the basic job of any elected official, be it governor or president, to protect the populace. It should always be in the acted upon in the best interest of the populace in a situation like this.  It was not unreasonable to ask this nurse, or any one returning from that environment, to voluntarily quarantine themselves in order to help make sure this does not occur again. Obviously there are those that think this is overkill, but as someone who has feared this disease for decades I have a full respect for it and do not want it to become a natural occurrence on our s****s. To me it is disturbing when I read a news report where someone who has not traveled to Africa has now seroconverted, and thought to have not been in direct contact with blood or body fluids from this patient. The story remains to be written about this disease, but for too long we have ignored something (the microbe) that has killed more people in all of history than all the wars combined.

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Wh-a-a-at?  The Ebola microbe has NOT killed all those people.   The influenza pandemic of 1918 or thereabouts is said to have killed at least 50 million.  Ebola has killed perhaps 15 thousand, including those who have died in current and earlier outbreaks.

And if by "the microbe" you intent to include viruses of every sort or some subset thereof, you should make yourself clear on that. As to the influenza virus, we have hardly "ignored" it, what with the well-orchestrated international efforts to predict the character of each next expected strain and produce multiplied millions of vaccinations for protection against it. Got YOUR flu shot yet?

I tell you what killer, you stick to correcting people's grammar, and I will worry about the public health.

Like I said, microbes, and that includes viruses and bacteria, along with their protozoan cousins (Malaria) have killed more people than all wars combined yet we tend to forget about those that we do not deal with everyday.

In answer to your question "Have I had my flu shot?"...the answer is like most folks I am still waiting on the next shipment of the quadravalent vaccine, which has been delayed to most places. It is due to be delivered in the next two weeks. 

Unlike the flu however, there is currently no known workable vaccine for Ebola or Marburg, both of which are Hemmorhagic viruses. Influenza will kill you, and mutates as well, but getting Ebola or Marburg is nothing like the flu.  They are about as different as the sniffles and TB. Like I said, it is in the interest of public health to prevent unnecessary exposure to a virus that has a mortality rate of over 70%. This virus is really a new entity, having only really been discovered in the mid 20th century, and we still know little about it.

The nurses who were infected either had inadequate PPE or they inadvertently contaminated themselves when doffing their PPE. Remember, explosive diarrhea and projectile vomiting are hallmarks of Ebola. That means caregivers, floors and walls are covered  with diarrhea and vomit.

I don't believe I gave you any reason to question my integrity. As far as caring I volunteered to go to the WTC, Katrina, Rita and the Kosovar refugee operation at Ft Dix plus others. I worked in Public Health because  I thought I could make a difference when I could have made a lot more money in the private sector. Ultimately the only reason I can think of is my opinion doesn't agree with your narrative but that is on you.

I don't believe I gave you any reason to question my integrity.

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This hysteria is uncalled for. It is generated by the MSM to generate higher ratings and thus more revenue for them and for self serving politicians.

The attitudes like those expressed  on this board are the major reason I took an early retirement. Hysteria that ignores fact just breeds more hysteria. I have donned the proper level of Kevlar/Nomex so fire away.

No one questioned your integrity. People in health care usually care about people, or should, and don't call the concern people have, hysteria, and claim their attitudes (concerns and fears?) are why you left. In other words, you don't think people should have concerns and label it attitudes and you don't want to deal with it.

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Correction:  Kaci Hickox is now on my heroes list.

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Well you said you doubted if I worked in the health field. That is doubting my integrity. There is no other way to explain it. When people refuse to fly for fear of catching Ebola or be around asymptomatic persons recently returned and they are put in a tent with a porta potty and no shower. that is hysteria not  concern. When people refuse to follow the science of Ebola instead listening to the fools on TV and politicians that is hysteria not simple concerns It is similar to those who refuse to immunize their children after following dubious advice instead of following the science. You don't know me but you seem to have no problem making unfounded assumptions about my degree of caring for my patients. There are none so blind as those who refuse to see. I'm done.

all I can say to Kaci is please stay away from the general population for two more weeks. Please.

Well you said you doubted if I worked in the health field.

No, I did not post 'doubted', I posted that it was hard to believe. Maybe I should add, sad/scary to hear your opinion about concerned people.

You don't know me but you seem to have no problem making unfounded assumptions about my degree of caring for my patients.

I read what you posted about people concerned/frightened about ebola, and imo it isn't kind. You seem to have a disgust for them, but we shouldn't have a disgust for people who may be infected and refuse to be quarantined, even though they are health care workers and supposed to care about other's health and well being.

A Maine official said Friday that Kaci Hickox’s roommate while she helped Ebola patients in Africa has been diagnosed with Ebola, WAGM-TV reports.

“The respondent’s roommate in Africa became infected without knowing how she became infected with Ebola,” said Sheila Pinette with the Maine Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, adding that “any potential risk to respondent from that incident has passed.”

It’s also unclear exactly how Dallas nurses Nina Pham and Amber Vinson, the only two people to become infected with Ebola within the U.S., contracted the disease.

http://dailycaller.com/2014/10...in-africa-has-ebola/

What's next? Health care workers refusing to treat ebola patients?

Like I said, the jury is out as to what this disease does.  It changes the rules along the way.  It has done this several times in history. During the Reston Va episode where monkeys were infected in a primate enclosure, the humans there seroconverted which means they had at one time been infected with the organisms, despite the fact that they were not in direct contact with the diseased monkeys.  It was felt it may have been carried thru the A/C system. In any case, this is a perfect example of why a necessary 21 day quarantine should be instituted. Who cares if she has to use a porta potty. That is probably better than what she had in Africa.  I have traveled to some of these places and the best plumbing in some of these areas makes a porta potty look like a 5 star hotel with a bidet. Suppose this woman lived in an area with a septic system. Would you want the organisms to get into the ground water and potentially infect whatever zoonotic species is responsible for harboring it in nature? There is a reason we keep animals in quarantine from other countries when they arrive here.  Like I said, it is simple public health 101. Any one who wants to know the nature of this disease should read the book The Hot Zone by Richard Preston, as well as his book about working in BSL-4 labs.