Florence Alabama punishment

A kid named Capley got sentenced to 12 or 13 years for being the driver in a wreck that killed a baby. Another kid that was speeding, driving under the influence and running a stop sign or red light only got days. Why the difference. Is it who you're kin to? Is it money? What is it?

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jtdavis posted:

A kid named Capley got sentenced to 12 or 13 years for being the driver in a wreck that killed a baby. Another kid that was speeding, driving under the influence and running a stop sign or red light only got days. Why the difference. Is it who you're kin to? Is it money? What is it?

I guess the difference is you don't get 12 or 13 years for speeding, dui, and running a red light or stop sign. Other than that, who cares.

You might expect a child to ask such a question, maybe, but a grown man that can't understand the difference? So, Jt, you think Capley should have gotten only a few days? Or do you think the dui, stop sign runner should have gotten 13 years? What was your point?

my point was that there was a tremendous difference in the punishment. The one who got off light had a last name that used to be big in Florence politics. I don't know if there was a connection.

jtdavis posted:

You might expect a child to ask such a question, maybe, but a grown man that can't understand the difference? So, Jt, you think Capley should have gotten only a few days? Or do you think the dui, stop sign runner should have gotten 13 years? What was your point?

my point was that there was a tremendous difference in the punishment. The one who got off light had a last name that used to be big in Florence politics. I don't know if there was a connection.

I read that Capley could be eligible for parole in 16 months.  Does that make you feel better.  I don't know who the other party is that you are comparing.

jtdavis posted:

You might expect a child to ask such a question, maybe, but a grown man that can't understand the difference? So, Jt, you think Capley should have gotten only a few days? Or do you think the dui, stop sign runner should have gotten 13 years? What was your point?

my point was that there was a tremendous difference in the punishment. The one who got off light had a last name that used to be big in Florence politics. I don't know if there was a connection.

Of course there was a difference in punishment. One resulted in a death, the other was a dui. No matter who you are or aren't, they can't send you to prison for 13 years for a dui.

Hey jt, who did these bas***** know?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/b...riminal-convictions/

Besides implementing a flagrant amnesty plan that defies Congress and the rule of law, the Obama administration freed tens of thousands of illegal immigrants convicted of violent and serious crimes last year, according to the government’s own records.

The crimes committed by illegal aliens released from federal custody include homicide, sexual assault, theft, kidnapping and alcohol-related driving convictions. In all, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) freed 36,007 aliens convicted of 88,000 crimes from detention centers throughout the United States, according the breathtaking agency records, which were obtained this month by a nonpartisan research center dedicated to studying immigration issues.

The Washington D.C.-based group, Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), published a chart with a breakdown of the crimes committed by the illegal aliens who now roam freely in unsuspecting U.S. neighborhoods. Of interesting note is that the majority of the releases from ICE custody were discretionary, CIS found, which means they weren’t required by law. In some instances the releases were actually contrary to law and local illegal immigrant sanctuary policies did not play a role in the vast majority. This indicates that it’s part of the Obama administration’s broader amnesty policy, which has favored letting illegal aliens live outside detention centers while their cases get resolved.

Let’s take a look at the breakdown of crimes committed by this latest batch of freed illegal aliens. The records show that more than 16,000 were convicted of driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol. Over 9,000 had dangerous drug convictions, 1,075 were convicted of aggravated assault, 426 of sexual assault and 193 of homicide. Additionally, the records show that 1,160 of the freed illegal immigrants had stolen vehicle convictions, 303 kidnapping convictions and 303 flight escape convictions.

Thousands of others were convicted of lesser crimes that are nevertheless serious enough to merit detention if you’re already in the country illegally. Those offenses include extortion, embezzlement, arson, domestic violence, property crimes, larceny, burglary, intimidation, obstructing police, weapon offenses, forgery, obstructing the judiciary and a variety of fraud. Those who take the time to read the entire list may find it difficult to imagine that the government would even consider freeing these offenders.

Incredibly, it’s not the first time this happens. The feds previously released 68,000 different criminal aliens encountered by ICE officers in jails that were let go instead of processed for deportation, according to records obtained by CIS. This latest batch of 36,007 is a group of aliens who were being processed for removal and were freed while awaiting the final disposition of their cases. Despite their serious criminal convictions, they were released by means of bond, order of recognizance, order of supervision, parole or alternative detention such as an ankle bracelet.

“The document raises questions about the Obama administration’s management of enforcement resources, as well as its enforcement plans and priorities,” CIS logically concludes. As examples, the group offers a recent ICE directive (prosecutorial discretion) and policy (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals) which make broad categories of illegal immigrants immune to enforcement. “These policies have forced ICE officers in the field to avoid or cease deportation action in thousands of cases, even in cases of aliens charged with or convicted of crimes,” CIS reveals.

This is hardly the first time that the government rewards illegal immigrants with serious criminal records. Last summer Judicial Watch reported that legislation crafted by the bipartisan Gang of Eight in the U.S. Senate would grant amnesty to illegal aliens with drunk-driving, domestic violence, aggravated assault and child abuse convictions. In its report JW noted that groups that would normally be vocal on these sorts of issues remained silent. As an example we offered the nation’s largest organization working to stop drunk driving and support victims of the violent crime—Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD)—which refused to criticize the proposed law even though it will essentially reward those convicted of driving dunk. Through a spokeswoman, MADD said it “doesn’t get involved in immigration matters.”

jtdavis posted:

Of course there was a difference in punishment. One resulted in a death, the other was a dui. No matter who you are or aren't, they can't send you to prison for 13 years for a dui.

both resulted in a death.

You left that out, and since you won't post a link, or say who you're talking about, no one can say why the punishments were different. You can just insinuate it was because someone knew someone when it could be something totally different.

jtdavis posted:

Of course there was a difference in punishment. One resulted in a death, the other was a dui. No matter who you are or aren't, they can't send you to prison for 13 years for a dui.

both resulted in a death.

Ah Ha, another clue to the mystery is revealed,  "both resulted in a death".  Is this like one of those who done it games, where you are given misleading clues and try to figure out who did it?

I am sure the other incident involve the boy who flew through red light at Cloyd and Hermitage killing a Lady. The trial was earlier this year and the boy got off very light. I don't remember names or the precise sentence imposed, but I think this is the case JT is mentioning.

uandurine posted:
jtdavis posted:

Of course there was a difference in punishment. One resulted in a death, the other was a dui. No matter who you are or aren't, they can't send you to prison for 13 years for a dui.

both resulted in a death.

Ah Ha, another clue to the mystery is revealed,  "both resulted in a death".  Is this like one of those who done it games, where you are given misleading clues and try to figure out who did it?

He just wanted to post enough to get in his jab about who knew who and who got away with what. I want him to tell us why it matters to him and if he can't tell us who or what he's talking about, and the particulars of the case, there is no answer for him.

Bestworking posted:

Hey jt, who did these bas***** know?

http://www.judicialwatch.org/b...riminal-convictions/

Besides implementing a flagrant amnesty plan that defies Congress and the rule of law, the Obama administration freed tens of thousands of illegal immigrants convicted of violent and serious crimes last year, according to the government’s own records.

The crimes committed by illegal aliens released from federal custody include homicide, sexual assault, theft, kidnapping and alcohol-related driving convictions. In all, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) freed 36,007 aliens convicted of 88,000 crimes from detention centers throughout the United States, according the breathtaking agency records, which were obtained this month by a nonpartisan research center dedicated to studying immigration issues.

The Washington D.C.-based group, Center for Immigration Studies (CIS), published a chart with a breakdown of the crimes committed by the illegal aliens who now roam freely in unsuspecting U.S. neighborhoods. Of interesting note is that the majority of the releases from ICE custody were discretionary, CIS found, which means they weren’t required by law. In some instances the releases were actually contrary to law and local illegal immigrant sanctuary policies did not play a role in the vast majority. This indicates that it’s part of the Obama administration’s broader amnesty policy, which has favored letting illegal aliens live outside detention centers while their cases get resolved.

Let’s take a look at the breakdown of crimes committed by this latest batch of freed illegal aliens. The records show that more than 16,000 were convicted of driving under the influence of drugs or alcohol. Over 9,000 had dangerous drug convictions, 1,075 were convicted of aggravated assault, 426 of sexual assault and 193 of homicide. Additionally, the records show that 1,160 of the freed illegal immigrants had stolen vehicle convictions, 303 kidnapping convictions and 303 flight escape convictions.

Thousands of others were convicted of lesser crimes that are nevertheless serious enough to merit detention if you’re already in the country illegally. Those offenses include extortion, embezzlement, arson, domestic violence, property crimes, larceny, burglary, intimidation, obstructing police, weapon offenses, forgery, obstructing the judiciary and a variety of fraud. Those who take the time to read the entire list may find it difficult to imagine that the government would even consider freeing these offenders.

Incredibly, it’s not the first time this happens. The feds previously released 68,000 different criminal aliens encountered by ICE officers in jails that were let go instead of processed for deportation, according to records obtained by CIS. This latest batch of 36,007 is a group of aliens who were being processed for removal and were freed while awaiting the final disposition of their cases. Despite their serious criminal convictions, they were released by means of bond, order of recognizance, order of supervision, parole or alternative detention such as an ankle bracelet.

“The document raises questions about the Obama administration’s management of enforcement resources, as well as its enforcement plans and priorities,” CIS logically concludes. As examples, the group offers a recent ICE directive (prosecutorial discretion) and policy (Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals) which make broad categories of illegal immigrants immune to enforcement. “These policies have forced ICE officers in the field to avoid or cease deportation action in thousands of cases, even in cases of aliens charged with or convicted of crimes,” CIS reveals.

This is hardly the first time that the government rewards illegal immigrants with serious criminal records. Last summer Judicial Watch reported that legislation crafted by the bipartisan Gang of Eight in the U.S. Senate would grant amnesty to illegal aliens with drunk-driving, domestic violence, aggravated assault and child abuse convictions. In its report JW noted that groups that would normally be vocal on these sorts of issues remained silent. As an example we offered the nation’s largest organization working to stop drunk driving and support victims of the violent crime—Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD)—which refused to criticize the proposed law even though it will essentially reward those convicted of driving dunk. Through a spokeswoman, MADD said it “doesn’t get involved in immigration matters.”

Who do they know?

Another thread abandoned by Jt.

What is there to abandon?  I commented that one kid was driving, and caused a fatality in a wreck and got a long prison sentence. The other was a kid driving, was under the influence, running possibly twice the speed limit, ran a stop sign or a red light, hit a woman and killed her and only got his hand lightly slapped. I asked why the difference. Y'all commented on everything but answering my question. 

I asked the question, I got no answers from you. I think you abandoned it.

jtdavis posted:

Another thread abandoned by Jt.

What is there to abandon?  I commented that one kid was driving, and caused a fatality in a wreck and got a long prison sentence. The other was a kid driving, was under the influence, running possibly twice the speed limit, ran a stop sign or a red light, hit a woman and killed her and only got his hand lightly slapped. I asked why the difference. Y'all commented on everything but answering my question. 

I asked the question, I got no answers from you. I think you abandoned it.

You answered nothing.

"You left that out, and since you won't post a link, or say who you're talking about, no one can say why the punishments were different".-No answer from jt.

 

"Ah Ha, another clue to the mystery is revealed,  "both resulted in a death".  Is this like one of those who done it games, where you are given misleading clues and try to figure out who did it"?-Still no answer from jt, or details of the cases.

 

"He just wanted to post enough to get in his jab about who knew who and who got away with what. I want him to tell us why it matters to him and if he can't tell us who or what he's talking about, and the particulars of the case, there is no answer for him".-Still no answer from jt, no particulars of the case, and no way to determine why they are different results.

 

Who do they know?-No answer from jt about who these POS know.

Nothing is hard to comprehend. 

I wouldn't think so either, but you seem to struggle.

I was serious. Nothing is the absence of everything. What would it look like, what would it feel like or taste like? How would you know it was really nothing? To comprehend what nothing is like would be hard to comprehend.

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