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Originally Posted by Bestworking:

          Old Faithful
 

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However, you consider that Obama let gays and lesbians join the military as one of the things that make him a great president.

 

 

Caondie,

 

Number 9 of the 50 things that make Obama a great president, was revoking Don't Ask, Don't Tell.

Surely, you read before copying and pasting.

 

 

          Old Faithful
 

You do just make it up to suit whatever you want it to be, Best. I never posted anything of the kind here, and outside this forum I have never said or written anything in favor of gays and lesbians in the military.  You  have shown yourself adroit at searching what others have said and using it as a "gotcha", so hp on that search feature and PROVE what you ASSERT.

 

          Old Faithful
 
 

What am I searching for? What have I ASSERTED? A 'gotcha'? You mean when I post 'don't lie because someone can find your post, gotcha'? Or when you're on someone for something that you yourself do or have done? That kind of 'gotcha'? Or when you accuse someone of doing something they didn't do and I show you they didn't do it? That kind of 'gotcha'? You mean like you got so torn up you had to search for all the times 'loose' had been used incorrectly?  The thread where it was more important to you to make fun of the use of 'loose' than the subject, two murdered officers? That kind of 'gotcha'? Again, what is it you want me to search for?

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You desperately need to search for some sound concept of reality.

 

You need to search for a way to deal with the response I made to you earlier that you continue to avoid, instead just putting up insulting irrelevancies. Try again.  Fopr your convenience"

 

<<<Context, Best, CONTEXT!  I was replying to teyates' demand, specifically,  "Why don't you give us a rundown of his and her illustrious work records...?"  And this: "Since so far I have not seen them do much except B & M about people holding them back.  Heck, they are living the American dream, what more do they want?"

 

The notion of a president who has done nothing of substance is just one more element of the right wing mythology of condemnation. Like it or not (and I don't like everything he has done), Obama has accomplished a lot while in office, against powerful opposition.  It is, in fact, what he HAS done that so inflamed his critics.  So you can't have it both ways, Best>>>

<<<Context, Best, CONTEXT!  I was replying to teyates' demand, specifically,  "Why don't you give us a rundown of his and her illustrious work records...?"  And this: "Since so far I have not seen them do much except B & M about people holding them back.  Heck, they are living the American dream, what more do they want?"

 

The notion of a president who has done nothing of substance is just one more element of the right wing mythology of condemnation. Like it or not (and I don't like everything he has done), Obama has accomplished a lot while in office, against powerful opposition.  It is, in fact, what he HAS done that so inflamed his critics.  So you can't have it both ways, Best>>>

 

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What part of wth are you talking about are you not getting? Tell me what you are posting about here. Show me MY post you are responding to.

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Originally Posted by Bestworking:

 

YOU, Best:

 

Both genders in this house use the same rest rooms. We lock the door to show they're in use. Your bible also says "in his own image":

 

So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

 

So doesn't that mean god is both male and female, and he would create the same in his image every once and a while? Hmmmmmmm

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Me 

 

In the house, it's all family and everyone knows everyone else very well and all maintain the understood boundaries. That does not apply in public facilities.

 

However God's creatures might regard themselves and each other, there are two distinct genders and there is a thousand of years of sensible law and  tradition of separating them for bathroom and dressing/undressing functions. It is foolish to try to undo that, especially when it has the very real potential of putting children at emotional risk or risk of sexual abuse, and it DOES carry that risk.

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You did post that and I did post the response and you have not answered. 

 

Dire

However, you consider that Obama let gays and lesbians join the military as one of the things that make him a great president.

 

Caondie,

 

Number 9 of the 50 things that make Obama a great president, was revoking Don't Ask, Don't Tell.

Surely, you read before copying and pasting.

 

You

You do just make it up to suit whatever you want it to be, Best. I never posted anything of the kind here, and outside this forum I have never said or written anything in favor of gays and lesbians in the military.  You  have shown yourself adroit at searching what others have said and using it as a "gotcha", so hp on that search feature and PROVE what you ASSERT.

 

NOW FOR ME

 

What am I searching for? What have I ASSERTED? A 'gotcha'? You mean when I post 'don't lie because someone can find your post, gotcha'? Or when you're on someone for something that you yourself do or have done? That kind of 'gotcha'? Or when you accuse someone of doing something they didn't do and I show you they didn't do it? That kind of 'gotcha'? You mean like you got so torn up you had to search for all the times 'loose' had been used incorrectly?  The thread where it was more important to you to make fun of the use of 'loose' than the subject, two murdered officers? That kind of 'gotcha'? Again, what is it you want me to search for?


Show me a question in YOUR statement. You made a mistake and can't man up and admit it.

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YOU

In the house, it's all family and everyone knows everyone else very well and all maintain the understood boundaries. That does not apply in public facilities.

 

However God's creatures might regard themselves and each other, there are two distinct genders and there is a thousand of years of sensible law and  tradition of separating them for bathroom and dressing/undressing functions. It is foolish to try to undo that, especially when it has the very real potential of putting children at emotional risk or risk of sexual abuse, and it DOES carry that risk.

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Now, MY response to your statement:

 People can understand boundaries in public. There are plenty of shared bathrooms out there. What kind of sexual abuse do you think a transgender child, or adult for that matter, is going to cause? Transgender doesn't mean pervert. I seriously doubt too, that a thousand years ago males and females had separate toilets.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Show me a question in YOUR statement. You made a mistake and can't man up and admit it.

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YOU

In the house, it's all family and everyone knows everyone else very well and all maintain the understood boundaries. That does not apply in public facilities.

 

However God's creatures might regard themselves and each other, there are two distinct genders and there is a thousand of years of sensible law and  tradition of separating them for bathroom and dressing/undressing functions. It is foolish to try to undo that, especially when it has the very real potential of putting children at emotional risk or risk of sexual abuse, and it DOES carry that risk.

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Now, MY response to your statement:

 People can understand boundaries in public. There are plenty of shared bathrooms out there. What kind of sexual abuse do you think a transgender child, or adult for that matter, is going to cause? Transgender doesn't mean pervert. I seriously doubt too, that a thousand years ago males and females had separate toilets.

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"Shared bathrooms," yes, BUT in all the cases I know of they are not shared simultaneously by both genders.  And it is not so much that a genuine child or adult transgendered person will cause abuse.  You underestimate the proclivity of crafty perverts, especially males, to use this arrangement to feign a transgender condition and  gain access to places previously off limits (e.g. locker rooms, shower facilities, rest rooms) and to vulnerable women or children for the purpose of 

committing various forms of abuse.

I see there is still no question and still no admission from you that you messed up. Well no matter, anyone can see. Now, in response to your statement.

 

I don't underestimate anything. Some things just can't be stopped or helped. If a man is bent on attacking someone, and wants to dress as a woman so he can go into a public restroom to do it, or heck, just go in when there is no one around and hide, and wait on a victim I don't see how anyone would stop it. I'd say that's taking an awful chance on being caught, but I guess they're desperate and I'm sure it's been done. I don't see how you can stop it.

 

 

 

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A 23-year-old woman was raped in the bathroom of a Manhattan bar, where a man grabbed her by the throat, forced her into a stall and attacked her, cops said.

The victim entered the woman’s restroom of the Turnmill Bar on East 27th Street in Kips Bay at around 7:45 p.m. on Saturday, where the attacker was hiding in another stall.

http://nypost.com/2015/04/14/w...oom-of-gramercy-bar/

 

Woman Attacked in Bathroom of Long Island Mall

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/on-a...-York-229951731.html

Police: Man crawled under bathroom stall to attack woman

  • Voyeurism crawled under bathroom stall at Bellevue Hyatt, police said.
  • Woman sat on suspect's hand on toilet seat, police said.
  • Man is suspected, but not charged, with harassing other women there.
  • Suspect arrested after multi-agency alert.

http://www.kirotv.com/news/new...ll-attack-wom/ngM3H/

 

 

And on and on and on and on. Report after report after report.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

I see there is still no question and still no admission from you that you messed up. Well no matter, anyone can see. Now, in response to your statement.

 

I don't underestimate anything. Some things just can't be stopped or helped. If a man is bent on attacking someone, and wants to dress as a woman so he can go into a public restroom to do it, or heck, just go in when there is no one around and hide, and wait on a victim I don't see how anyone would stop it. I'd say that's taking an awful chance on being caught, but I guess they're desperate and I'm sure it's been done. I don't see how you can stop it.

 

 

 

Oh...I could stop it.

And! I'm always ready to. when I see it.

.40 Cal. to the head.

 

Walk out.

Female Student: [after spraying Brian in the face with mace] I'm sorry, I just came from that orientation seminar about college dating.

Kelly McGillis: [Scene cuts to an auditorium of students watching a video] Hi, I'm Kelly McGillis and I'm here to talk to you about rape. Ladies, look to your left. Now look to your right. Statistics indicate that both of those men will rape you.

Male Student #1: [Female student is seen sitting between two male students. She looks nervously at them] I'm not gonna rape you.

Male Student #2: I might.

Here is where some of this Girl Scout transgender nonsense came from.  The pervert scum ,Josh Ackley, (one of the members of this group-- "Dead Betties") was the principal spokesman for the Girl Scouts on such matters until he finally went too far even for the GS and got his corrupt butt removed from the spokesman position that he had contaminated.  Reportedly he still works in the"press department.".:

 

 

http://www.breitbart.com/big-g...ith-the-girl-scouts/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new...omo-punk-videos.html

 

 

Who Is Josh Ackley and What Is He Doing with the Girl Scouts?

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Josh Ackley doesn't matter in this discussion.

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Just how totally freakin' oblivious can you be, Best??!

 

It was YOU who provided the link to the Breitbart article I commented on--the article that showed that the principal national GS spokesperson for several years is a disordered, sexually perverse lowlife, namely JOSH ACKLEY!!!!.

 

It was Ackley who  explained  the GS position on LGBTs. Remember?? Where do you come off dismissing him as irrelevant to this discussion?

 

 

Because I am not having a 'discussion' about him. YOU are. He is meaningless to me. I'm discussing the fact transgender does not mean perverts. YOU are trying to go there. I'm discussing the mess up you made and won't admit to, and you're trying to steer it to something/someone else. So, in the discussion I am having, he doesn't matter.

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Because I am not having a 'discussion' about him. YOU are. He is meaningless to me. I'm discussing the fact transgender does not mean perverts. YOU are trying to go there. I'm discussing the mess up you made and won't admit to, and you're trying to steer it to something/someone else. So, in the discussion I am having, he doesn't matter.

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Transgender indeed does not inherently mean perverts, although there may well be perverts within the transgender community.. And besides, when I referred to the perversity of Josh Ackley, I was not identifying him as a pervert based on any transgender status.  He has plenty of other perversity working for him.

 

How say you that you are "not having a discussion about him," when it was YOU who first introduced him via the Breitbart  link you so boldly advertised in large letters?

I didn't say you were referring to Josh Ackley as a transgender pervert. Nice try at twisting, but your time line is off. I posted that the discussion I was involved in was with you about transgender kids and my replies were to state that I did not equate transgender with perversion as you were/still are, trying to do. That was before my link and had nothing to do with anyone specific. I didn't introduce anyone. I linked to an article on girls scouts in Utah and it contained his, and other's names. So what if his name was mentioned? Still has nothing to do with the discussion BEFORE the link and it is blatantly obvious you are trying to make it about him in an effort to deflect from the discussion before the link, before his name. If they were so unhappy with him in 2013, why is he speaking for them in April of 2015??

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

I didn't say you were referring to Josh Ackley as a transgender pervert. Nice try at twisting, but your time line is off. I posted that the discussion I was involved in was with you about transgender kids and my replies were to state that I did not equate transgender with perversion as you were/still are, trying to do. That was before my link and had nothing to do with anyone specific. I didn't introduce anyone. I linked to an article on girls scouts in Utah and it contained his, and other's names. So what if his name was mentioned? Still has nothing to do with the discussion BEFORE the link and it is blatantly obvious you are trying to make it about him in an effort to deflect from the discussion before the link, before his name. If they were so unhappy with him in 2013, why is he speaking for them in April of 2015??

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They at one time relegated Ackley to some undefined job in the "press room," as I indicated earlier. If he got  back in business as a major spokesperson for them, I suppose they decided that it was consistent with Girl Scout values to put his shameless face up front once more to promote opportunities for moral corruption.

 

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Once more, my answer to your "before the link" cavil:

 

"Context, Best, CONTEXT!  I was replying to teyates' demand, specifically,  "Why don't you give us a rundown of his and her illustrious work records...?"  And this: "Since so far I have not seen them do much except B & M about people holding them back.  Heck, they are living the American dream, what more do they want?"

 

The notion of a president who has done nothing of substance is just one more element of the right wing mythology of condemnation. Like it or not (and I don't like everything he has done), Obama has accomplished a lot while in office, against powerful opposition.  It is, in fact, what he HAS done that so inflamed his critics.  So you can't have it both ways, Best."

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This is what I posted before you went off the rails. Notice there is not ONE mention of obama in the posts. Then you come back with 'context context' and how you didn't mention obama and the military.

 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Is gender-bending a big problem for you? Maybe your god, that christians claim created everyone in his image, will toss them into that lake of fire. Will he dive in with them? I mean since they're in his image.

Both genders in this house use the same rest rooms. We lock the door to show they're in use. Your bible also says "in his own image":

 

So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

 

So doesn't that mean god is both male and female, and he would create the same in his image every once and a while? Hmmmmmmm

 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

This is what I posted before you went off the rails. Notice there is not ONE mention of obama in the posts. Then you come back with 'context context' and how you didn't mention obama and the military.

 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Is gender-bending a big problem for you? Maybe your god, that christians claim created everyone in his image, will toss them into that lake of fire. Will he dive in with them? I mean since they're in his image.

Both genders in this house use the same rest rooms. We lock the door to show they're in use. Your bible also says "in his own image":

 

So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

 

So doesn't that mean god is both male and female, and he would create the same in his image every once and a while? Hmmmmmmm

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And here was my answer, which your early senility mind seems not to remember:

 

"In the house, it's all family and everyone knows everyone else very well and all maintain the understood boundaries. That does not apply in public facilities.

 

However God's creatures might regard themselves and each other, there are two distinct genders and there is a thousand of years of sensible law and  tradition of separating them for bathroom and dressing/undressing functions. It is foolish to try to undo that, especially when it has the very real potential of putting children at emotional risk or risk of sexual abuse, and it DOES carry that risk."

 

Originally Posted by Contendah:
 

The whole business of co-mingling boys and girls of DIFFERENT genders within an organization historically and traditionally long dedicated to serving children of a single gender bothers me indeed.  

And the gender-bending systematic that has sexually mature persons of both genders using the same rest rooms or dressing rooms/locker rooms bothers me

My Bible says, "Male and female created He them."

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But the president that you love so much let gays and lesbians join the military. In the Military you would be using the same sleeping area, dressing rooms/locker rooms, bathrooms with a known gay man. How do you know he wouldn't be checking you out while dressing/undressing, standing next to you at the urinal, etc.?

Originally Posted by Bestworking:
Originally Posted by Contendah:
Originally Posted by Bestworking:

This is what I posted before you went off the rails. Notice there is not ONE mention of obama in the posts. Then you come back with 'context context' and how you didn't mention obama and the military.

 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Is gender-bending a big problem for you? Maybe your god, that christians claim created everyone in his image, will toss them into that lake of fire. Will he dive in with them? I mean since they're in his image.

Both genders in this house use the same rest rooms. We lock the door to show they're in use. Your bible also says "in his own image":

 

So God created mankind in his own image, in the image of God he created them; male and female he created them.

 

So doesn't that mean god is both male and female, and he would create the same in his image every once and a while? Hmmmmmmm

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And here was my answer, which your early senility mind seems not to remember:

 

"In the house, it's all family and everyone knows everyone else very well and all maintain the understood boundaries. That does not apply in public facilities.

 

However God's creatures might regard themselves and each other, there are two distinct genders and there is a thousand of years of sensible law and  tradition of separating them for bathroom and dressing/undressing functions. It is foolish to try to undo that, especially when it has the very real potential of putting children at emotional risk or risk of sexual abuse, and it DOES carry that risk."

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I answered it, but since you are in the throes of altzeheimers or some other madness, maybe measles, you ignored my answer and went off on a rant about me posting something about you and gays in the military and what you had posted, and something about context context. You are still playing games because you just can't man up and admit you attacked me for something dire posted.

So YOU answered MY answer, which logically translates to the fact that I DID answer YOU; otherwise you would have had nothing to answer. 

 

 

Play all the games you want contendah. You know that we all know you messed up, and like a true lefty will do anything besides admitting it. You attacked me for something dire posted. You ranted to me about the military and obama and what I had asserted about you, and it was dire that had made the post. You know very well what I am referring to. You aren't slick, you aren't clever, you're just a typical lefty that will run from a thread when you're proven wrong, such as the one where you claimed racism and there was none to name one, or you will do this 'I meant to do that' act while trying to muddy the water and refusing to answer, as on this thread.  You answered the wrong person, got all huffy doing it, now you are going ten miles out of your way to keep from manning up and admitting it. Typical BG move. 

Originally Posted by Bestworking:

Play all the games you want contendah. You know that we all know you messed up, and like a true lefty will do anything besides admitting it. You attacked me for something dire posted. You ranted to me about the military and obama and what I had asserted about you, and it was dire that had made the post. You know very well what I am referring to. You aren't slick, you aren't clever, you're just a typical lefty that will run from a thread when you're proven wrong, such as the one where you claimed racism and there was none to name one, or you will do this 'I meant to do that' act while trying to muddy the water and refusing to answer, as on this thread.  You answered the wrong person, got all huffy doing it, now you are going ten miles out of your way to keep from manning up and admitting it. Typical BG move. 

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If you will acknowledge that I answered your post (the one beginning with "Is gender-bending a big problem for you?") I will seriously consider addressing the case of mistaken identity you have gotten your obsessive panties in such a wad over.

If you will acknowledge that I answered your post (the one beginning with "Is gender-bending a big problem for you?") I will seriously consider addressing the case of mistaken identity you have gotten your obsessive panties in such a wad over.

 

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Nothing to acknowledge. I never claimed or posted you didn't respond to the gender bender post. I showed you the question you won't answer. Panties in a wad would be you. As I posted before this, play your games. It's clear that's what you're doing because you won't admit you are wrong.

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