God plans to destroy the earth?

you answered your own question... read the passage you posted for yourself... God promised to never FLOOD the earth to destroy it again. His plans include fire the second time around... you'll find that too, along with a ton of other usefull knowledge, if you keep reading.

That's like telling somebody "I promise I will never shoot you again," and then stabbing them in the back. It comes across as a technicality. Perhaps not a contradiction in the logical sense, but still troubling.

If what the nutcases say is true, that the earth will be destroyed by fire, then that is an even greater conundrum. Why would a loving God threaten to burn His own children?

Yes, the promise is deceptive on God’s part. Obviously God could destroy the world any number of ways, so adding this kind of (unspoken) condition to the promise that He made to Noah would have made His promise essentially meaningless. The fact is, God made a solemn covenant with Noah never to destroy the world again, and this is precisely how Noah understood it. Therefore, it is certain that God never will destroy the earth again.

Go read it yourself, God’s ultimate objective for His creation is complete redemption, not total annihilation. Take a gander at Isaiah 45:17-18, Dan. 2:44, Dan. 7:13-14, Rev. 21:1, 5, Isa. 11:6-9) and quite a few other choice passages.

God's promise to Noah is just exactly what it says it is in the Bible... The rainbow is symbolic of this promise to never flood the earth again.
And to say "objective" is a little skewed. God's ultimate "desire" is complete redemption. See, if you read a lot of the Bible, God on many... many, many, many... and MANY occasions shows His awesome wrath. We have the opportunity as individuals to obtain complete redemption, and if we make that choice we will live with Him forever in paradise... However, the earth is now a fallin creation, and when the time comes as God decides, he will destroy the imperfect earth, and those who chose to deny Him will burn for eternity in the lake of fire. It is our choice as to which we will reside.

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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
God's promise to Noah is just exactly what it says it is in the Bible... The rainbow is symbolic of this promise to never flood the earth again.
And to say "objective" is a little skewed. God's ultimate "desire" is complete redemption. See, if you read a lot of the Bible, God on many... many, many, many... and MANY occasions shows His awesome wrath. We have the opportunity as individuals to obtain complete redemption, and if we make that choice we will live with Him forever in paradise... However, the earth is now a fallin creation, and when the time comes as God decides, he will destroy the imperfect earth, and those who chose to deny Him will burn for eternity in the lake of fire. It is our choice as to which we will reside.

Peter,

I think your right on this. The rewards are so great some things are asked of you.
Freedom isn't free, but it's worth it. It will cost you a choice.

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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
those who chose to deny Him will burn for eternity in the lake of fire. It is our choice as to which we will reside.

You don't have to just deny Him to get there.

Yeah, He loves us so much that if we don't walk a straight line, cross every T, dot every i, He sends us to Hell.
Not our choice if we think we're doing it right, just to find out at the end that we didn't.

There is no think we're doing it right... you don't have to walk a straight line, cross every T, or dot every i.... If you truely understand what Jesus' sacrifice for us was, you accept that He is the perfect Son of God sent to be the ultimate sacrificial lamb, and that His blood holds the power to wash us clean of our sins, .... if you truely believe these things, then you will be compelled to walk that straight line, cross every T, and dot every i. You will fail at times because you are human, but will seek redemtion in God's eyes every time you do.
To deny those truths is to deny Him... that's how Hell gets populated.

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Originally posted by semiannualchick:

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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
those who chose to deny Him will burn for eternity in the lake of fire. It is our choice as to which we will reside.

You don't have to just deny Him to get there.

Yeah, He loves us so much that if we don't walk a straight line, cross every T, dot every i, He sends us to Hell.
Not our choice if we think we're doing it right, just to find out at the end that we didn't.

Semi chick,
Whatever you have done confess it to me in a pm. I’ll review it and determine if it is worth your concern.

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Originally posted by buffalo:
Semi chick,
Whatever you have done confess it to me in a pm. I’ll review it and determine if it is worth your concern.

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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
There is no think we're doing it right... you don't have to walk a straight line, cross every T, or dot every i.... If you truely understand what Jesus' sacrifice for us was, you accept that He is the perfect Son of God sent to be the ultimate sacrificial lamb, and that His blood holds the power to wash us clean of our sins, .... if you truely believe these things, then you will be compelled to walk that straight line, cross every T, and dot every i. You will fail at times because you are human, but will seek redemtion in God's eyes every time you do.
To deny those truths is to deny Him... that's how Hell gets populated.

We can agree to disagree & leave it at that.

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Originally posted by semiannualchick:

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Originally posted by buffalo:
Semi chick,
Whatever you have done confess it to me in a pm. I’ll review it and determine if it is worth your concern.

You just seam to be batlin something I just thought I’d offer.

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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
There is no think we're doing it right... you don't have to walk a straight line, cross every T, or dot every i.... If you truely understand what Jesus' sacrifice for us was, you accept that He is the perfect Son of God sent to be the ultimate sacrificial lamb, and that His blood holds the power to wash us clean of our sins, .... if you truely believe these things, then you will be compelled to walk that straight line, cross every T, and dot every i. You will fail at times because you are human, but will seek redemtion in God's eyes every time you do.
To deny those truths is to deny Him... that's how Hell gets populated.

Those are not "truths" and I deny every one of them.

Peter, serious question. Redemption from what?

I can't understand how some people still take the Bible literally. It is a work of fiction. Sure, there are some good lessons in it, there is also a lot of fear and horror. It is just a book, no more or less sacred than any other religious mythology. Oh, and rainbows are a visible result of light refraction, not a symbolic promise. It's science, rudimentary science.

I think that is coming 12-21-2012.

December 21 – The Mesoamerican Long Count calendar, notably used by the pre-Columbian Maya civilization among others, completes a "great cycle" of thirteen b'ak'tuns (periods of 144,000 days each) since the mythical creation date of the calendar's current era.

Net,

It's entirely easy to simply "give yourself to the Lord" and accept a work of fiction.

It's a function of the priest class to examine the claims of religion against common knowledge and conclude that religion is correct. That's why they must start their indoctrination in the Formative Years before Kindergarten.

After all, their livelihood depends on it. Not only that, but they give grounding to those incapable or unwilling to examine what humankind has learned over the last 3000 years or so. Those to whom an unsupportable superstition is just... easier.

Those who could google rainbows, find perfectly fine reasons why they exist (and always have) and still attribute a mythical god to the phenomenon.

It's facile. Easy. Beneath the better accomplishments of humanity.

We will prevail, for truth is on our side. It might take a while.

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Originally posted by b50m:
I think that is coming 12-21-2012.

December 21 – The Mesoamerican Long Count calendar, notably used by the pre-Columbian Maya civilization among others, completes a "great cycle" of thirteen b'ak'tuns (periods of 144,000 days each) since the mythical creation date of the calendar's current era.

CAREFUL, B50, YOUR "NEW AGE" SLIP IS SHOWING!

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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
God's promise to Noah is just exactly what it says it is in the Bible -- The rainbow is symbolic of this promise to never flood the earth again.

And to say "objective" is a little skewed. God's ultimate "desire" is complete redemption. See, if you read a lot of the Bible, God on many... many, many, many... and MANY occasions shows His awesome wrath. We have the opportunity as individuals to obtain complete redemption -- and if we make that choice we will live with Him forever in paradise.

However, the earth is now a fallen creation, and when the time comes -- as God decides -- he will destroy this imperfect earth -- and those who chose to deny Him will burn for eternity in the lake of fire. It is our choice as to which we will reside.

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Originally posted by Netracer41:
I can't understand how some people still take the Bible literally. It is a work of fiction. Sure, there are some good lessons in it, there is also a lot of fear and horror. It is just a book, no more or less sacred than any other religious mythology. Oh, and rainbows are a visible result of light refraction, not a symbolic promise. It's science, rudimentary science.

You have obviously have never heard the Voice of God or you would not be making these statements. Kind of sad, it's pretty cool when He talks.....

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Originally posted by b50m:
I think that is coming 12-21-2012.

December 21 – The Mesoamerican Long Count calendar, notably used by the pre-Columbian Maya civilization among others, completes a "great cycle" of thirteen b'ak'tuns (periods of 144,000 days each) since the mythical creation date of the calendar's current era.

12-12-12 I think would be better, Obama wins another election and the rapture is on or are we in the 3 1/2 years right now....If Israel makes peace then guess what Obama is the antichrist....

Shack,

You hear voices in your head?

So Let me get this straight: God does plan to destroy the earth?

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Originally posted by LoveShack:


You have obviously have never heard the Voice of God or you would not be making these statements. Kind of sad, it's pretty cool when He talks.....

Hoo boy.....Another Berzerkowitz, mebbe?

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Originally posted by Netracer41:
Oh, and rainbows are a visible result of light refraction

Oh, heck, and I wanted to look for that pot of gold at the end of the rainbow & now you're saying it's not real?

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Originally posted by buffalo:
Semi chick,
Whatever you have done confess it to me in a pm. I’ll review it and determine if it is worth your concern.

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Originally posted by semiannualchick:

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Originally posted by buffalo:
You just seam to be batlin something I just thought I’d offer.

Thank you, but confessing doesn't do any good, it's still something I have work on within.

But you have made me curious, are you a priest?

I don't think so semi.

b5om

Don’t be so quick to answer . What are the qualifications?

I might just be a priest.

I am highly skilled in the understanding of human manifestations .

I have cunning to perceive underlying reasons for human behavior.

I view all situations and persons thru gimlet eye as to not take a viper into the bosom of truth.

and you rrammmmble.

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Originally posted by Sofa King:
So Let me get this straight: God does plan to destroy the earth?

Yes

For the second time or more since we have no memory of the earth before.?


Isa 65:17-FOR, BEHOLD, I CREATE NEW HEAVENS AND A NEW EARTH: AND THE FORMER SHALL NOT BE REMEMBERED, NOR COME INTO MIND.

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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:

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Originally posted by Sofa King:
So Let me get this straight: God does plan to destroy the earth?

Yes

So then the Tribulation is all BS, then? What's the point of the tribulation if the entire earth is going to be destroyed? Jesus cannot rule for a thousand years over an earth that has been destroyed.

So what's the point?

End times are some of the toughest to grasp fully... I'm no scholar to the depths I could type an easy to understand description of the tribulation, rapture, ect....
I urge you to study for yourself... Daniel and Revelation are the primary locations for this info.
But the tribulation is not God destroying the earth. It's tribulation, mellennial reign of Christ, then as Revalation 21:4 states, "All wickedness will be purged by fire and former things shall pass away." So the earth in it's entirety will not be destroy... it's all the thing OF the earth... It's God's way of renovating the joint. lol
Gonna be a rough time though.. ruuuuffff time.
There are other things.. like pre-trib, post-trib... rapture or no rapture... but the whole fire thing... yep, that's a definate.

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His plans include fire the second time around...

Great case for global warming! AL GORE IS A PROPHET!

no... Al Gore believes in man-made global warming.. It is blasphemous to say that man could ultimately destroy that which God created, and that which God Himself has said He would purge with fire.

Al Gore is an idiot basically. lol

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Al Gore is an idiot basically. lol

The most truth I've heard all day!

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man-made global warming

WELL, did God create man? Maybe God is using man to do the dirty work!!! AL GORE IS AN IDIOT? Basically, all the garbage that is spewed on this topic smacks of idiocracy. That was a GREAT MOVIE and probably what the world is heading to. LMAO!!!!!!!!!

Yeah Gore is an idiot.

As for the earth not being literally destroyed, then what is this?

Isa 65:17-FOR, BEHOLD, I CREATE NEW HEAVENS AND A NEW EARTH: AND THE FORMER SHALL NOT BE REMEMBERED, NOR COME INTO MIND.

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Originally posted by b50m:
Yeah Gore is an idiot.

As for the earth not being literally destroyed, then what is this?

Isa 65:17-FOR, BEHOLD, I CREATE NEW HEAVENS AND A NEW EARTH: AND THE FORMER SHALL NOT BE REMEMBERED, NOR COME INTO MIND.

I think after the second coming the earth will be changed.
There will be peace, no death, no sickness and all renewed.
Bad memories will be taken from the people. I believe if a
loved one doesn't make it to heaven, God will take their memory
from you. It would be a only happiness in heaven kind of thing.

That sounds like a Rod Serling Twilight Zone episode. LOL.
Actually he did one like that.

OK, seriously, if it is to be that way, then wouldn't taking away the memories take away who we are?

I was formed from my good and bad experiences so if the bad are erased, I would not be 'me' anymore.

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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
End times are some of the toughest to grasp fully...(.........) So the earth in it's entirety will not be destroy... it's all the thing OF the earth... It's God's way of renovating the joint. lol
Gonna be a rough time though.. ruuuuffff time.
There are other things.. like pre-trib, post-trib... rapture or no rapture... but the whole fire thing... yep, that's a definate.

Interesting. Let's recap: I stated my case pretty clearly and with Biblical authority that God clearly indicated that he would never destroy the earth again. You responded that God was a bit of a sheister and actually stated that he would never FLOOD the earth again.

So I asked for a clarification and you said,

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Originally posted by Sofa King:
So Let me get this straight: God does plan to destroy the earth?

And you said, "Yes."

Now that I've pointed out the contradiction, you state that, "So the earth in it's entirety will not be destroy... it's all the thing OF the earth... It's God's way of renovating the joint" making your previous comment either a lie or an expression of ignorance.

This logical fallacy is called "moving the goalpost." When caught in a contradiction, the fundamentalist will simply use the omnipotency of our Lord to simply make another illogical claim that leap-frogs the previous illogical claim.

The only LOGICAL answer? The Bible was written inspired by God but written by man and thus polluted the Word. You'd sound a little more credible if you said, "Well, honestly I don't know but /I/ believe thusly but you can believe what you wish.

Instead you reply, "but the whole fire thing... yep, that's a definate."

No, it's not definite at all. You simply believe that in spite of contradictory information. It kind of calls into question your credibility, honesty and knowledge of your faith.

Sofa King... first of LOL!!!

I havent said anything contradictory at all. By destroy the earth if you meant, the giant marble that floats in the sky will disappear, no...
But if you meant, destroy the earth the same way He did with the flood, except use fire, yes. I just wanted to clarify that the earth wont disappear. The flood destroyed ALL OF THE EVIL ON EARTH so as to start again new. The fire will destroy ALL OF THE EVIL ON EARTH so as to start again new. You are the one playing semantics games to attempt to point out contradictions. Logical and common sensical folks can use deductive reasoning to understand that.
It is quite simple... God did what He said he was going to do when he flooded the earth... God then promised never to flood the earth again, so far He has not, and I fully expect Him to keep that promise. God then promised to "purge by fire" all wickedness on the earth, and once again, I fully expect Him to keep that promise.