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wow , quail,,, that last post was the racist post.   guess you hate white people.

the tea party is first against more taxes. the liberals post as many hate post as conservatives.

it is time we stop calling each other names, stop believing what ever the media says.

reading between the lines and understanding our neighbor.

God bless America

Originally Posted by ribbit:

Blind Contempt

Have you checked the man's popularity ratings --- just above Nixon's.  Or, check the buyer's remorse of those who voted for him.

 

While intelligent, Obama is gifted with arrogance and incompetence.  He'd never been responsible for running anything beyond neighborhood agitation and shows it.

 

Racism -- the last argument of the progressive and leftist.  When they shout racist, they reveal their intellectual vacuum -- they have nothing left to say.  They are out of ideas. 

 

 

Originally Posted by Quaildog:

Cases in point; nothing refreshing about  Repub/t-ultras Hate posts. Like I said boys it's time to find some Black and/or Hispanic friends; you're going to need them one day.

Dog you're going to be SOL.

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Including the 39 percent of blacks and 100 percent of hispanics that express remorse for voting for him in 2012.

Originally Posted by Quaildog:

Cases in point; nothing refreshing about  Repub/t-ultras Hate posts. Like I said boys it's time to find some Black and/or Hispanic friends; you're going to need them one day.

Dog you're going to be SOL.

Already have many plus other nationalities and guess what about 50% approve of the current Presidents agenda/policies, the rest do not.

dire.  i, for one, have grown tired of you trying to 'speak for me.' if i'd have wanted an *****le to represent me, i'd elect a republican. as it turns out, the majority of americas are rejecting the rt. wingnuts the republican party has become. all the while, people like you ignore the facts, keep spouting propaganda, and losing elections. at some point you have to realize you're constantly wrong. when that rt. wingnut bubble collapses, it's gonna be flippin' hilarious! remember the 'come apart' on fox news entertainment, election night.. dire's headed for the same thing.. right here on our simple little forum.

 

here's a little 'clue' for you.. the republican approval rate is about HALF that of the president you keep crowing about! shocker! ahahahahahaha!

Last edited by Crash.Override
Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

In 1953, the top tax rate was 91, not 94 percent.

http://top-federal-tax-rates.f...hebest.com/l/38/1953

 

JFK recognized that high rates resulted in lower tax revenue.  Which is why he lowered the rate and collected more revenue.  Progressives kill the goose that killed the golden egg. 

 

Workers, realizing that most unions were not providing value for the dues they charged. And, in fact, helped kill the industries that unionized.  And, that, little Crash, is why the unions are on a downhill slide to oblivion like any other creature that can't evolve -- change or go extinct. 

 

 

funny how the vw company wants the plant to go union.. funny how the workers in germany have representation. funny how the rt. wingnuts have all the answers and none of the facts. funny how they love to tell you how 'progressives' ruin the country.. and every business in america , profits more under democrats. facts are facts.. unless you live inside that rt. wingnut bubble. i think the air is getting very thin. the rt.wingnuts are making less and less sense.. and getting louder and louder.

 

just for giggles.. the top tax rate was 92%.. it got lowered to 91%.. then to 70%.. so, the 'time frame' ole supergenius dire is talking about was 70%. i wonder what it is today.. well, it's 39.6%.. the first time it dropped below 70% was ronnie reagan... and we all know we've been going down hill since reagan cut the taxes and republicans started 'busting' unions... see how all the time frame stuff works? and you think i'm the one that has the problem? gotcha.

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It has become a Don Quixote like quest for certain economists to romanticize the higher tax rates on the wealthy.  No less than Nobel Prize winners Paul Krugman has written that:

The best estimates suggest that circa 1960 the top 0.01 percent of American paid an effective federal tax rate of more than 70 percent, twice what they pay today

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The assertion that the top tax rate  paid an effective tax rate of more than 70% seems more than bit odd owing solely to the fact that the top nominal rate was 91% from 1960-1963 and then 70-77% the rest of the decade.  In other words, Nobel Prize winning economist Paul Krugman is claiming that the average top tax payer was paying an effective tax rate that in some years was higher than the nominal rate.

 

The average effective tax rate of an average tax payer in the top 1% is presented below.

 

http://www.baldingsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/11/ETR.jpg

The data itself tells an entirely different story from the idealized 91% tax rate.  According to Internal Revenue Service data, presented below on a graph, from 1966 to 1970 the effective tax rate of an average tax payer in the top 1% was 30.85%.  Throughout the time period in question, the effective tax rate of the average top 1% never exceeded 35%.

 

Discuss.

Addendum: This figure is calculated from Internal Revenue Service Personal User Files.  The Effective Tax Rate is the total federal income tax paid by a tax payer in the top 1% over the adjusted gross income (AGI).

http://www.baldingsworld.com/2...twinkie-romanticism/

Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by Quaildog:

Cases in point; nothing refreshing about  Repub/t-ultras Hate posts. Like I said boys it's time to find some Black and/or Hispanic friends; you're going to need them one day.

Dog you're going to be SOL.

___________________________

Including the 39 percent of blacks and 100 percent of hispanics that express remorse for voting for him in 2012.

What QD doesn't care to know is that MY BEST FRIEND is.....wait for it....BLACK!

Originally Posted by dogsoldier0513:
Originally Posted by direstraits:
Originally Posted by Quaildog:

Cases in point; nothing refreshing about  Repub/t-ultras Hate posts. Like I said boys it's time to find some Black and/or Hispanic friends; you're going to need them one day.

Dog you're going to be SOL.

___________________________

Including the 39 percent of blacks and 100 percent of hispanics that express remorse for voting for him in 2012.

What QD doesn't care to know is that MY BEST FRIEND is.....wait for it....BLACK!

 

_____________________________

 

Does your best friend know that you sported a confederate flag as your avatar on this forum and that you stated you were proud of what it represented? If they do, then your black friend was probably not born and raised in America, definitely not in the south. 

 

 

yes, we can tell just exactly how that's worked out.. by the empty coffers our government has now.. again.. the facts don't support the rt. wingnut theories. wow.. this is crazy. remember folks.. the 'liberals' are the ones that are driving the economy to trash.. just check the facts.. except the facts are... we all prosper better under democrats.. you people were alive under clinton and bush.. what did your wallet tell you? rt. wingnut facts.. you can just make them up.. because if you repeat them enough, people are stupid enough to believe them.

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Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

yep.. i sure do.. do you understand that i posted the ACTUAL TAX FORMS? it's all there, in black and white? why is this so hard to understand?

I do understand that, Crash. 

 

However, there is a difference between the actual tax rate and the effective tax rate. As Dire explained there were many deductions that were around in the old days that are not around more. This made the delta between the ACTUAL tax rate and the EFFECTIVE tax rate much greater.

listen.. this moron has told you people a pack of lies.. and you bought it hook like and sinker... the 'EFFICTIVE TAX RATE' IN 1980 WAS ABOUT 45%.. THE ACTUAL TAX RATE WAS 50%. IN 1970 THE ACTUAL TAX RATE WAS 92%.. THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE AS ABOUT 72%.. ANY WAY YOU SLICE IT.. THE FIGURES PROVIDED BY DIRE ARE WRONG!

now, i can say it about 20 more times.. and dire can continue with all the intelligence insults he wishes.. but, the IRS website has got to be the authority of taxes. right? come on people.. stop taking the regressive's word for everything and DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!!!

in dire, i see a regressive that will lie to you.. spit out regressive 'facts' that have zero basis in reality. and then call me stupid for trying to show you the truth.. and he's got the nerve to tell me how ignorant i am.. regressives and facts go together like oil and water.

Last edited by Crash.Override
Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

listen.. this moron has told you people a pack of lies.. and you bought it hook like and sinker... the 'EFFICTIVE TAX RATE' IN 1980 WAS ABOUT 45%.. THE ACTUAL TAX RATE WAS 50%. IN 1970 THE ACTUAL TAX RATE WAS 92%.. THE EFFECTIVE TAX RATE AS ABOUT 72%.. ANY WAY YOU SLICE IT.. THE FIGURES PROVIDED BY DIRE ARE WRONG!

now, i can say it about 20 more times.. and dire can continue with all the intelligence insults he wishes.. but, the IRS website has got to be the authority of taxes. right? come on people.. stop taking the regressive's word for everything and DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!!!

in dire, i see a regressive that will lie to you.. spit out regressive 'facts' that have zero basis in reality. and then call me stupid for trying to show you the truth.. and he's got the nerve to tell me how ignorant i am.. regressives and facts go together like oil and water.

Maybe I am missing something but the link you posted does not mention Effective Tax rates. 

 

Also, the economy was stuck in stagflation in the 70's. Reagan cut taxes and the economy started growing. 

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