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Gore could spoil the party for Hillary

New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton holds a solid advantage with Californians likely to vote in the Feb. 5 Democratic presidential primary, but an old friend could significantly change the math should he decide to run, according to a Field Poll.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cm/content/view/1150/171/
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Originally posted by BradshawBruin02:
I'm not sure Gore will run, but I do know that early polls already have him ahead of the Democratic candidates. Democrats and plenty of independents want him at the helm.
I have talked to a couple of moderate Republicans who Want to know if Gore will run, They want to vote for him, and this is in Jon Kyl's State, Arizona.
http://www.electgore2008.com/
http://www.algore04.com/
Draft Gore for 08 Petition
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/303874397?ltl=1175796940
http://www.algore.org/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/al-gore-for-president_b_13949.html

People are talking, and working toward a Gore Candidacy. I think the Green party, if you know anyone in it, might be convinced to Nominate him. Libertarians won't, but any group of people in any state can convene to nominate him
To get his name on a General Election Ballot would require his assent, but it is doable.
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Originally posted by RollTide66:
Breaking news.... If Hillary wins the presidency, she will not only be the first woman president, but also the first communist president of the USA.
YOU are potentially both. If you know so little about politics, and the philosophies represented by the labels, to confuse moderate socialism with Communism of any kind, you should be ashamed to show your face in a group as well informed and educated as this one.
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Originally posted by EdEKit:
I have talked to a couple of moderate Republicans who Want to know if Gore will run, They want to vote for him, and this is in Jon Kyl's State, Arizona.
http://www.electgore2008.com/
http://www.algore04.com/
Draft Gore for 08 Petition
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/303874397?ltl=1175796940
http://www.algore.org/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cenk-uygur/al-gore-for-president_b_13949.html

People are talking, and working toward a Gore Candidacy. I think the Green party, if you know anyone in it, might be convinced to Nominate him. Libertarians won't, but any group of people in any state can convene to nominate him
To get his name on a General Election Ballot would require his assent, but it is doable.


I could see the Green Party nominating him. Were he to run under their banner, we might see te first tight race between three parties in a long time.
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Originally posted by Southern Patriot:
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Originally posted by stephanie:
I cannot beleive I will say what I'm about to say -- but if I had to choose -- I would put Gore in before I would put Hillary -- I don't think it will be an issue regardless though.


If these are my choices, I think I will choose to move to Mexico. Wink
Southern Patriot, I have looked into moving to Mexico. In Zapotlanejo, Jalisco, you can rent a two bedroom apartment, with twice weekly maid service for less than 300 dollars a month. The annual premium for the national health, for resident aliens, is 250 dollars a year. Gasoline prices are very low, and Mexico will permit you to retain your US auto registration, but if you purchase a car there you will have to register it there. Possession of a valid US passport virtually guarantees a resident alien visa that permits you to take employment in Mexico. Should you wish to incorporate a business, you will be required to have a Mexican Citizen partner. Ownership of real estate by resident aliens is next to impossible, but long term leases are available. Spanish is the official language, and all legal documents must be in that language. The legal system is Napoleonic, Which means, basically, that if a prosecutor brings charges, the defendant must show his innocence. Automobile accidents are seen as criminal acts.
I personally decided against moving to Mexico for two reasons, foremost is the weakness of the Dollar. I am on a fixed income, and if the dollar declines in value I could be ruined. Money, deposited in a Mexican Bank is held as pesos, if you put a dollar in the bank, you get back pesos, at the exchange rate in force at the time of withdrawal.
I am fairly certain that your comment about moving to Mexico was more an expression of opinion that an actual threat to leave us to our own devices, but I thought you might like to know what moving to Mexico entails.
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Originally posted by pba:
Gore could spoil the party for Hillary

New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton holds a solid advantage with Californians likely to vote in the Feb. 5 Democratic presidential primary, but an old friend could significantly change the math should he decide to run, according to a Field Poll.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cm/content/view/1150/171/

I am feeling as STUPID as I think RollRide66 actually is. And, I think pba fixed it already.
Thanks, all I needed was to look as stupid as I feel. edited content

I have responded to a couple of comments here, and then decided to read what all the hubub is about. Well, pba, YOU posted a link to a story about the Surge in Iraq, and the Congressional and Military response to it as a strategy.

The LINK has nothing to do with the California Democratic Presidential Primary.
This is the proper link: http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cm/content/view/1150/171/
Gore, when added to the list of possible candidates takes ten points from Clinton, and 7 points from Obama.

California, with New York, are the anchor states for Progressive Democrats. The Fact that Gore hits Clinton hard, without even being in the race, is not a surprise.
Nationally Gore trails Clinton by 22 points, and trails Obama by 4. Clinton Outpolls Obama 2 to 1 nationwide.
The Ohio Primary is March 4 (tentative) with a state convention March 10. California is February 5.
For those of you willing to use distortions and slander to change election outcomes, I will urge you to start REALLY POUNDING ON THE KOOKINESS AND RADICALISM OF CALIFORNIA. Don't Delay, if you wait to long the State may have a positive effect on the election. You have to denigrate the 6th largest economy in the world as a hotbed of liberal stupidity that cannot keep its people prosperous, and employed. It is over run with Illegals, who are such a serious problem that the INS, acting on tips only would be sitting around twiddling their thumbs.

This is what liberalism, California Style gets you
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In the first quarter of 2005, average weekly wages in Contra Costa County rose by 5.0 percent over the year, the largest increase among California's 26 large counties with employment of 75,000 or more, according to the U.S. Department of Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics. Among the 322 large counties nationwide, Contra Costa County's wage growth ranked 19th. Regional Commissioner Richard J. Holden noted that 22 of the 26 large counties in California experienced wage growth over the year.

The State's top six counties in wages were all located in the San Francisco area; four of these--Santa Clara County, San Francisco County, San Mateo County and Contra Costa County--had wage levels exceeding $1,000 in the first quarter of 2005. (See table 1.) Santa Clara County's wage, at $1,372, was the highest in California and 4th highest nationwide. http://www.bls.gov/ro9/qcewca.htm


So, if you really want to see this nation prosper, be absolutely certain that you don't follow the example of all those moronic Liberal Socialist, Communist, Labor Union loving, Racially diverse Californians down the primrose path of Liberal Politics.
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Originally posted by EdEKit:
quote:
Originally posted by pba:
Gore could spoil the party for Hillary

New York Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton holds a solid advantage with Californians likely to vote in the Feb. 5 Democratic presidential primary, but an old friend could significantly change the math should he decide to run, according to a Field Poll.

http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cm/content/view/1150/171/

I am feeling as STUPID as I think RollRide66 actually is.
I have responded to a couple of comments here, and then decided to read what all the hubub is about. Well, pba, YOU posted a link to a story about the Surge in Iraq, and the Congressional and Military response to it as a strategy.

The LINK has noting to do with the California Democratic Presidential Primary.
This is the proper link: http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cm/content/view/1150/171/
Gore, when added to the list of possible candidates takes ten points from Clinton, and 7 points from Obama.

California, with New York, are the anchor states for Progressive Democrats. The Fact that Gore hits Clinton hard, without even being in the race, is not a surprise.
Nationally Gore trails Clinton by 22 points, and trails Obama by 4. Clinton Outpolls Obama 2 to 1 nationwide.
The Ohio Primary is March 4 (tentative) with a state convention March 10. California is February 5.
For those of you willing to use distortions and slander to change election outcomes, I will urge you to start REALLY POUNDING ON THE KOOKINESS AND RADICALISM OF CALIFORNIA. Don't Delay, if you wait to long the State may have a positive effect on the election. You have to denigrate the 6th largest economy in the world as a hotbed of liberal stupidity that cannot keep its people prosperous, and employed. It is over run with Illegals, who are such a serious problem that the INS, acting on tips only would be sitting around twiddling their thumbs.

This is what liberalism, California Style gets you
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In the first quarter of 2005, average weekly wages in Contra Costa County rose by 5.0 percent over the year, the largest increase among California's 26 large counties with employment of 75,000 or more, according to the U.S. Department of Labor's Bureau of Labor Statistics. Among the 322 large counties nationwide, Contra Costa County's wage growth ranked 19th. Regional Commissioner Richard J. Holden noted that 22 of the 26 large counties in California experienced wage growth over the year.

The State's top six counties in wages were all located in the San Francisco area; four of these--Santa Clara County, San Francisco County, San Mateo County and Contra Costa County--had wage levels exceeding $1,000 in the first quarter of 2005. (See table 1.) Santa Clara County's wage, at $1,372, was the highest in California and 4th highest nationwide. http://www.bls.gov/ro9/qcewca.htm


So, if you really want to see this nation prosper, be absolutely certain that you don't follow the example of all those moronic Liberal Socialist, Communist, Labor Union loving, Racially diverse Californians down the primrose path of Liberal Politics.


Of course CA has a high wage rate. If you look at the link below you will see that CA has, by far, the highest cost of living of any state in the Union. CA is 51.8% above national average. The closest continental state is MA @ 29.2%. The liberals are pricing the population of CA to DEATH. Thank you, but no thank you. NJ is bad but I can live with this liberal mess a whole lot better than CA.
http://www.homesweethome.com/highest_cost_of_living_nation
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Originally posted by BradshawBruin02:
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Originally posted by EdEKit:
I have talked to a couple of moderate Republicans who Want to know if Gore will run, They want to vote for him, <snip>.


I could see the Green Party nominating him. Were he to run under their banner, we might see te first tight race between three parties in a long time.

I could see Them Nominating him, but I can't see him accepting ONLY their nomination. In 1960 JFK was a third Party Candidate, He was Nominated by the Liberal Party of New York, and he went to their convention and accepted the nomination. This is the speech, and it's a great example of oratory, and a super definition of Liberal. http://www.liberalparty.org/JFKLPAcceptance.html

If Gore is not nominated by the Democratic Convention, and runs a third or independent campaign, it would split, the already damaged party. Lieberman is the perfect example. Not that the political positions of the two are the same, but that the consequence would be the same. Lieberman ran against a Democrat for Senate.

Sorry, I am a deliberately undecided Progressive Democrat. Read my post about California. On this thread. I presently don't support any candidate for President. I will vote in the State Primary. Probably for Barak Obama. I only get one vote. I would like to be able to do this on a national convention basis, and could, if the Democrats wanted to. Give me a half million dollars for development, and a few million for publicity. (maybe two) and I will provide a Presidential Candidate who is non partisan.

We are sitting at the machine that can do that. All we need is the will to set up a nationwide, virtual convention, and get people to attend for a few minutes a week.
I'm there with you Marian -- At this point, I think the Dems don't know where their head is from their tail -- they are floating on the "anything but Bush" philosophy but I do think when election time comes if they haven't gotten their ducks in a row -- they will lose to McCain, Thompson or Guiliani -- or any Republican that runs....

The "Bush is an idiot" rhetoric will only get them so far -- when you get past the smoke screen they are going to have to offer more than that to win in my book.



RollTide66--I don't think you are stupid -- I think you stated your thoughts and I think it may have been meant to be funny -- when it comes to politics a lot of these guys throw their sense of humor out the door ... just fair warning -- everything you say will probably get bashed on this side of the forum -- they are not all bad when you can get them to talk about something other than politics....I promise! But you're welcome to disagree anytime you like!!!!!
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Originally posted by BradshawBruin02:
I'm not sure Gore will run, but I do know that early polls already have him ahead of the Democratic candidates. Democrats and plenty of independents want him at the helm.


Thats because the Puppet Masters can pull his strings and make him dance, while on the other hand, Hillary is a loose cannon.
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Originally posted by MarianLibrarian:
I would love for Gore to run, I think he is the only chance the Democrats have to beat McCain (or possibly Giuliani).
I want him in the race too. Mostly because I don't want a repeat of the Kerry Nomination. I thought his early victory would strengthen his chances to win, but I think it lulled him into a false confidence. He did not think he was up against a hard fight. A battle that does not end until the convention wil put all the issues out, amd make them crystal clear. I think, as stepanie says, Democrats seem to be drifting aimlessly. It seems that way because the Party has turned into a "Love in." stephanie seems to think the Republicans have a sense of humor about elections and politics, but I find it difficult to see that. When an attack is launched at ME, I take it seriously, and respond. I guess that is what she calls bashing.

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