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Gun violence? More than half of the non-war firearms deaths are due to suicide. Another percentage are due to accident. Seems your topic title is a bit misleading. You could of course argue that the rapid release of energy associated with detonation of a round is a violent event. I don't think that is what you meant and it certainly is not what most people visualize when they hear the term "gun violence".

Duke Researcher Shows Cars are 80% Risker Than Guns

 

Don’t make a silly and controversial memes, like this one.

If you do, it might spur people to dig into your claims, and them show you to be a complete and utter fool:

This argument in turn has stimulated a very cogent rebuttal by Eugene Volokh as well as a Facebook page by Second Amendment advocates arguing that this actually would be a huge improvement over current federal and state gun control laws which now place far more restrictions on gun owners than do parallel laws governing automobile ownership.

There’s no point in rehashing these arguments. There clearly is a critical difference between the regulatory regimes governing guns and autos. Guns tend to be regulated as if they are obviously inherently dangerous and must be carefully controlled (in terms of who is permitted to own them, whether they can be displayed in public, even how they must be stored if children are in the house). In contrast, there seems to be no equivalent presumption about cars whose rules regarding ownership and use seem far less restrictive. That is, virtually anyone (including the mentally ill, past criminals etc.) may own a car and do whatever they want with it on private property. One needs a car license only if driving on public streets.

This puzzles me in light of the available empirical evidence:

  • There were 310 million guns in the U.S. in 2009 (a Congressional Research Service figure I have no reason to dispute), a figure that likely grew to perhaps 350 million by 2013.
  • These guns result in ~33,000 deaths in 2013, of which 64% were suicides, leaving ~500 accidental deaths and 11,200 due to homicides (these are official CDC figures reported in Table 10)
  • There were 269 million registered vehicles in the U.S. in 2013.
  • These result in ~33,000 deaths a year, roughly half of which are drivers (these are official NHTSA statistics).

Conover crunched the numbers, and made a discovery that won’t make the meme-makers very happy. Conover concludes:

…in light of these eye-opening but indisputable facts, why is gun ownership so vilified by progressives? They could save literally 25 times as many lives by convincing a single typical car owner to drive more responsibly than convincing a single typical gun owner to use their weapon more responsibly. Instead of derisively sneering at those who “cling to guns” out of bitterness, perhaps they ought to ask themselves why guns rather than cars invite their scorn.

Of course, none of this matters to anti-gun Democrats, as they don’t care about facts or logic or lives, for that matter.

What they care about is control, and power over the citizenry. They will always push for gun control, because they believe to their cores that liberty is dangerous.

 

From the OP's link  . . .

 

 In fact, homicides represent a minority of gun deaths, with suicides comprising the biggest share.

 

This is such a sensitive issue, I'm reluctant to bring it up.  But isn't the method of suicide elective?  There is a Top 10 list you can google for yourself.

 

And don't homicides include legal applications of deadly force such as self-defense?

 

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By what rational can either be compared to war?

 


Rational and liberal are two words rarely found in the same sentence.  This "analysis" is consistent with deceiving liberal methodologies we rational people are forced to endure everyday.  These methodologies include cherry picked data and apples to oranges comparisons cleverly disguised as fact.  The people who actually believe this stuff are commonly referred to as "low info voters" and most often vote for the jack azz. 

I remember a post similar to this that pointed out that between 150,000 and 200,000 deaths a year are caused by Doctors who misdiagnose, prescribe wrong medication, botch surgeries and all sorts of other things regarding people in their charge. Where is the outrage about this? Guess those that would complain did not make it past the Dr's office door. And somebody regulates, test, monitors and keeps an eye on this profession. Doesn't seem to help from the figures I have seen. 

Originally Posted by Bulldog63:

I remember a post similar to this that pointed out that between 150,000 and 200,000 deaths a year are caused by Doctors who misdiagnose, prescribe wrong medication, botch surgeries and all sorts of other things regarding people in their charge. Where is the outrage about this? Guess those that would complain did not make it past the Dr's office door. And somebody regulates, test, monitors and keeps an eye on this profession. Doesn't seem to help from the figures I have seen. 

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We shouldn't leave out the best government run healthcare system in the world:

 

307,000 veterans may have died awaiting Veterans Affairs health care, report says

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/02/...ctor-general-report/

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