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"President Barack Obama offers multiple excuses for why health insurance premiums continue to skyrocket, including blaming Republicans and insurance companies for the problems.

He complains that too many reporters spend more time discussing premium increases than explaining why he isn’t responsible for them."

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-...yrocketing-premiums/

He blames everything, except his own sorry self for the mess he dropped on us, like the merde dropped from a Hillary bus.

While I might disagree with Democrat presidents in the past, it seems the species has devolved since FDR.  Truman had the sign, "The Buck Stops Here," on his desk.  Obama denies that anything is his fault. Truthfully, he could have blamed Pelosi and Reid for dropping the thing on his desk for his signature. 

He knowingly lied about the bill to sell the snake oil to the public. Now, whines that it doesn't do what he claimed it would.

TRUTH -- THE NEW HATE SPEECH!

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Isn't that such a GREAT LINE!  Not his fault?   Well not his alone I might say.  It's titled and coined Obamacare, after him but it's really DEMOCRATIC HEALTHCARE for the blame and/or credit lies 100% in the democrats hands and laps.  They conceived it, developed it, voted for it, and PUSHED IT THROUGH over TOTAL Republican objection.  Not on Republican and for Obama to now say or try to infer the Republicans have anything to do with what's going bad is just typical of a liberal.  LIES LIES LIES and then blame the ones least responsible for it because your followers and voters are so gullible they will believe anything as if it was developed by Republicans.

jtdavis posted:

Whose fault is it? Give answers. Give out a solution. Something had to be done. Insurance and medical care should be affordable for all classes, not just the 1%. What was the reason for the price increase in insurance? It ain't all Obama

Yes, Pelosi and Reid share responsibility, as I stated. No Republican was allowed to submit initial information into the bill.  No amendments and, only limited debate was allowed in either house, and no Republican voted for the monstrosity.  Its all on the Democrats, who knowingly lied about the bill.  We were Grubered.

jtdavis posted:

When I asked whose fault was it, I was referring to the health care and insurance cost increases the past 25 years.

You got pay increases during the last 25 years, but you didn't expect price increases? Better, more expensive medical equipment, new and better drugs, who pays for developing those things? Dems need to learn and understand that there is really no "free" lunch.

giftedamateur posted:
jtdavis posted:

When I asked whose fault was it, I was referring to the health care and insurance cost increases the past 25 years.

You got pay increases during the last 25 years, but you didn't expect price increases? Better, more expensive medical equipment, new and better drugs, who pays for developing those things? Dems need to learn and understand that there is really no "free" lunch.

Awwww!  You just destroyed their precious, wittle dreams.  The progs believe in Big Rock Candy Mountain and flying unicorns.  That Peter can force Paul to pay for all their needs, forever.

jtdavis posted:

25 years ago, real good plan=$160 per month.  Present=$1120 for less coverage. My pay increased, but not that much. 25 years ago, generic drugs was fully paid, now, the last generic 3 month supply cost $80.

I don' expect a free lunch, I don't live in a world with cute misspelled words either.

Reality bites, doesn't it!

jtdavis posted:

25 years ago, real good plan=$160 per month.  Present=$1120 for less coverage. My pay increased, but not that much. 25 years ago, generic drugs was fully paid, now, the last generic 3 month supply cost $80.

I don' expect a free lunch, I don't live in a world with cute misspelled words either.

Sure you expect a free lunch, that's why you're a gimmethat demoslop. Always greedy, you claim your pay increases weren't that much! LOL! Since you have no sympathy for anyone else, I hope you end up paying thousands a month for your meds.

Reality bites, doesn't it!     Dire, could you explain?

Old jt needs that $7800.00 deductible that the one guy has.    Best, why do you wish bad stuff for me?

 

Sure you expect a free lunch, that's why you're a gimmethat demoslop. Always greedy, you claim your pay increases weren't that much! LOL! Since you have no sympathy for anyone else, I hope you end up paying thousands a month for your meds.    Best, where did that come from?  The insurance costs went up over 700%.  Why does that make you happy? this was before Obama care. Why do you hope I have to pay thousands a  month for meds?  If it were to go up to that, I can't afford them, if they are critical, I have to die. Is that what you want?

jtdavis posted:

Reality bites, doesn't it!     Dire, could you explain?

Old jt needs that $7800.00 deductible that the one guy has.    Best, why do you wish bad stuff for me?

 

Sure you expect a free lunch, that's why you're a gimmethat demoslop. Always greedy, you claim your pay increases weren't that much! LOL! Since you have no sympathy for anyone else, I hope you end up paying thousands a month for your meds.    Best, where did that come from?  The insurance costs went up over 700%.  Why does that make you happy? this was before Obama care. Why do you hope I have to pay thousands a  month for meds?  If it were to go up to that, I can't afford them, if they are critical, I have to die. Is that what you want?

I only wish the bad stuff for you that you wish for others.  Again-Since you have no sympathy for anyone else, I hope you end up paying thousands a month for your meds, and if you had a $7800.00 deductible, so much the better.

I only wish the bad stuff for you that you wish for others.  Again-Since you have no sympathy for anyone else, I hope you end up paying thousands a month for your meds, and if you had a $7800.00 deductible, so much the better.

Where do you get the idea that I wish bad stuff for others?  I'm the liberal, not a hard hearted conservative, I have sympathy for others. Who have you shown any sympathy for on these posts? That last sentence sums you up. You are so miserable in your existence that you wish everyone could be as miserable as you.

jtdavis posted:

I only wish the bad stuff for you that you wish for others.  Again-Since you have no sympathy for anyone else, I hope you end up paying thousands a month for your meds, and if you had a $7800.00 deductible, so much the better.

Where do you get the idea that I wish bad stuff for others?  I'm the liberal, not a hard hearted conservative, I have sympathy for others. Who have you shown any sympathy for on these posts? That last sentence sums you up. You are so miserable in your existence that you wish everyone could be as miserable as you.

You have sympathy as long as someone else is paying the bill.

jtdavis posted:

I only wish the bad stuff for you that you wish for others.  Again-Since you have no sympathy for anyone else, I hope you end up paying thousands a month for your meds, and if you had a $7800.00 deductible, so much the better.

Where do you get the idea that I wish bad stuff for others?  I'm the liberal, not a hard hearted conservative, I have sympathy for others. Who have you shown any sympathy for on these posts? That last sentence sums you up. You are so miserable in your existence that you wish everyone could be as miserable as you.

You are a hard hearted, anti-American liberal without one ounce of sympathy for anyone other than yourself. I'm far from miserable, and I have posted over and over who I have sympathy for. I have sympathy for the ones that lost their jobs when obama slimed into office, and the left started selling the country to foreign interests. You have posted you wouldn't turn down a raise you didn't even need, even if it meant someone else could have a job. I have sympathy for the ones that can't get a job, yet some illegal POS can get a job, get paid under the table, get housing and food cards. And it really gets good when they pop out the anchor babies. Where's the union when the legal folks need jobs? They aren't getting in to it.

I have pity for the little babies burned by saline, or pulled out of their "hosts" bodies in pieces because it was not convenient for them to have a baby right now, or they were too drunk and messed up to use protection. I pity the ones that survive the abortion and has scissors shoved in their brains while the butchers laugh about how big the baby was. I call them hosts because I won't call these scum buckets mothers. You don't care how much slaughter of babies goes on, you got to vote demoslop because they are going to give you free stuff.

I have sympathy for women AND men that have to make that awful decision to abort a baby because of the mother's health. No one should have that put on them.

I have sympathy for truly needy people that go years without help, while lazy good for nothings, all races, lay up in public housing getting everything paid for them, while they breed for dollars and get even more kids taxpayers have to pay for.

I have sympathy for the man that says he has to pay a monthly premium for his obamadon'tcare, yet can never use it because his deductible is $7800.00 now, and is going up. He said if he gets sick he will just have to die. And your stupid remark about that? "What was his deductible before"? So yes, I said you should have to walk in that man's shoes, then maybe you'd develop a tad bit of care for the truly needy, and realize who they are. The truly needy aren't running around spending hundreds getting their hair and nails "did" and buying wigs. They aren't buying "Jordans" and other shoes worth hundreds of dollars, or clothes and purses worth more than you and I make in a year, like the leeches I'm talking about are doing. You are the kind that would see a starving child and tell your family, "act like you don't see him".

I have sympathy for the cops that try to do their jobs while they are constantly attacked by you and others like you. I get angry when the scum that thinks like you refuses to serve them, or tampers with their food. I have sympathy for their families when they are slaughtered trying to protect people, even the MISERABLE ungrateful things like you. I have sympathy for them when you post, "execute them" and pretend you didn't post it.

I have sympathy for the good people whose lives are ruined by the lies you lefties tell. I could go on and on, but why? You don't care, nothing will ever make you care. All you want to do is lie and try to call others names, and post silly **** like the hacking and running people off crap. As I said, I am far from miserable, because I am not like you. I don't spend my days wondering what I can get for free from the government. I live my life and help people wherever I can. You talk the talk, but as Jack and Hiflyer pointed out, your "sympathy" consists of "let the other fellow do it" while you just talk, and those other fellows that actually do it are the conservatives.

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Best, I'm gonna answer your long post.

You are a hard hearted, anti-American liberal without one ounce of sympathy for anyone other than yourself.       I am liberal, the rest of that comes from your imagination.    

the left started selling the country to foreign interests.    you got any way to back that up?

You have posted you wouldn't turn down a raise you didn't even need, even if it meant someone else could have a job.     I have told you time and time again that I had no option to work for more or less than the contract price. I don't suppose you will ever believe that.

Where's the union when the legal folks need jobs? They aren't getting in to it.     can the legal folks do the work, if so, go to the union hall and talk to them.

I am against abortion too. Which political party is against it? Hint, it ain't republicans or democrats.                                                                                                      I have talked to a few people on "Obama care", they are happy with it.

You are the kind that would see a starving child and tell your family, "act like you don't see him".     You are really wrong about that.

The next paragraph is complete BS.  The last paragraph is also BS.

Best, I don't really know why you hate my opinions so much, but I wish you would learn what the word truth means when you reply.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                                                                             

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

jtdavis posted:

Best, I'm gonna answer your long post.

You are a hard hearted, anti-American liberal without one ounce of sympathy for anyone other than yourself.       I am liberal, the rest of that comes from your imagination.    

No, it comes from knowing what you liberals are all about.

the left started selling the country to foreign interests.    you got any way to back that up?

Sure I have a way of backing that up. It's called freaking news reports/articles, and what they have done and what they say they plan on doing more of.

You have posted you wouldn't turn down a raise you didn't even need, even if it meant someone else could have a job.     I have told you time and time again that I had no option to work for more or less than the contract price. I don't suppose you will ever believe that.

I told you time and time again my question was based on the assumption you could turn it down because you used that excuse over and over. It was a "what would you do question"?  What would you do IF you could turn it down. You said you wouldn't even if you could.

Where's the union when the legal folks need jobs? They aren't getting in to it.     can the legal folks do the work, if so, go to the union hall and talk to them.

Of course they can do the work, they were doing it for years until the left threw open the borders to gain voters. No, like you the union is only interested in what someone will give them for their support.

I am against abortion too. Which political party is against it? Hint, it ain't republicans or democrats.                                                                                                      I have talked to a few people on "Obama care", they are happy with it.

Hint, I didn't mention parties, I said I had sympathy for the slaughtered babies. You have never spoken out against it, and yes, it IS the demoslops that keep it going. So you talked to a "few people" that were happy with obamadontcare eh? So a few outweighs all the others that aren't a bit happy? Typical lefty, ignore the majority and run over people to do what you want to do.

You are the kind that would see a starving child and tell your family, "act like you don't see him".     You are really wrong about that.

No, I have read you enough to know I'm not wrong. You care about no one.

The next paragraph is complete BS.  The last paragraph is also BS.

Where's the BS? You said you'd answer and here you go crawfishing.

Best, I don't really know why you hate my opinions so much, but I wish you would learn what the word truth means when you reply.

I do know what the word truth means, and it's something you can't stand to hear and avoid when posting your crap. You don't have opinions, you just spout the party line, insult others that don't, make outrageous claims without proof or links and lie.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                                                                             

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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jtdavis posted:

I think you took my answer the wrong way.

jt, she took your answer the way you stated it. You wrote it the
way you think and assume everyone knows what your thinking,
they aren't going to assume what wouldn't make sense. You do
that a lot in your posts. If you don't want to be taken wrong,
stop writing your replies wrong. Just say it straight up....

 

Bestworking posted:
jtdavis posted:

I only wish the bad stuff for you that you wish for others.  Again-Since you have no sympathy for anyone else, I hope you end up paying thousands a month for your meds, and if you had a $7800.00 deductible, so much the better.

Where do you get the idea that I wish bad stuff for others?  I'm the liberal, not a hard hearted conservative, I have sympathy for others. Who have you shown any sympathy for on these posts? That last sentence sums you up. You are so miserable in your existence that you wish everyone could be as miserable as you.

You are a hard hearted, anti-American liberal without one ounce of sympathy for anyone other than yourself. I'm far from miserable, and I have posted over and over who I have sympathy for. I have sympathy for the ones that lost their jobs when obama slimed into office, and the left started selling the country to foreign interests. You have posted you wouldn't turn down a raise you didn't even need, even if it meant someone else could have a job. I have sympathy for the ones that can't get a job, yet some illegal POS can get a job, get paid under the table, get housing and food cards. And it really gets good when they pop out the anchor babies. Where's the union when the legal folks need jobs? They aren't getting in to it.

I have pity for the little babies burned by saline, or pulled out of their "hosts" bodies in pieces because it was not convenient for them to have a baby right now, or they were too drunk and messed up to use protection. I pity the ones that survive the abortion and has scissors shoved in their brains while the butchers laugh about how big the baby was. I call them hosts because I won't call these scum buckets mothers. You don't care how much slaughter of babies goes on, you got to vote demoslop because they are going to give you free stuff.

I have sympathy for women AND men that have to make that awful decision to abort a baby because of the mother's health. No one should have that put on them.

I have sympathy for truly needy people that go years without help, while lazy good for nothings, all races, lay up in public housing getting everything paid for them, while they breed for dollars and get even more kids taxpayers have to pay for.

I have sympathy for the man that says he has to pay a monthly premium for his obamadon'tcare, yet can never use it because his deductible is $7800.00 now, and is going up. He said if he gets sick he will just have to die. And your stupid remark about that? "What was his deductible before"? So yes, I said you should have to walk in that man's shoes, then maybe you'd develop a tad bit of care for the truly needy, and realize who they are. The truly needy aren't running around spending hundreds getting their hair and nails "did" and buying wigs. They aren't buying "Jordans" and other shoes worth hundreds of dollars, or clothes and purses worth more than you and I make in a year, like the leeches I'm talking about are doing. You are the kind that would see a starving child and tell your family, "act like you don't see him".

I have sympathy for the cops that try to do their jobs while they are constantly attacked by you and others like you. I get angry when the scum that thinks like you refuses to serve them, or tampers with their food. I have sympathy for their families when they are slaughtered trying to protect people, even the MISERABLE ungrateful things like you. I have sympathy for them when you post, "execute them" and pretend you didn't post it.

I have sympathy for the good people whose lives are ruined by the lies you lefties tell. I could go on and on, but why? You don't care, nothing will ever make you care. All you want to do is lie and try to call others names, and post silly **** like the hacking and running people off crap. As I said, I am far from miserable, because I am not like you. I don't spend my days wondering what I can get for free from the government. I live my life and help people wherever I can. You talk the talk, but as Jack and Hiflyer pointed out, your "sympathy" consists of "let the other fellow do it" while you just talk, and those other fellows that actually do it are the conservatives.

"I have sympathy for the ones that lost their jobs when obama slimed into office, and the left started selling the country to foreign interests."

 

Then their unemployment ran out. Imagine productive, hard-working people having their lives taken from them. They aren't members of families that have been on the government *** for generations. Yes, the people that keep voting the Dems into office should have all the bad things happen to them.

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jtdavis posted:

Sure it is. Go to historical copies of the Times Daily and look at the help wanted section of the paper in 2009 and look at the help wanted section today. After that, you can't deny there is a lot more jobs to be had now.

No it is not true. Jt, you are such a dimwit. A tool for the left. Dire, notice how, when Jt couldn't get anywhere defending Obamadontcare, he tries to take the thread off subject with the left's lie about low unemployment.

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