Hillary's Economic Delusions

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JT,

You may repeat the above until Tartarus freezes over, but it means nothing,. Just because something has not been prosecuted does not mean the crime does not exist.  First, the internal controls to catch illegal voting were only recently implemented.  Therefore, any illegal votes would only recently be discovered.To expand upon the sample I cited above, "that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in 2008 and 2.2 percent of non-citizens voted in 2010."  With an estimated 30 million legal and illegal immigrants, that would mean over 1.9 million voted in 2008 and up to 660,000 voted in 2010.

JT,

You may repeat the above until Tartarus freezes over,

What's a Tartarus?

The rest of the post is estimates or guesses. Probably done by a right wing source.

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Sorry, forgot you are a product of liberal education -- anything before 1960, or are so, is ancient history.  Tartarus is the classical Greek version of hell.

JT, like many libs, reverts to killing the messenger, when he receives info he doesn't agree with.

First, the article was from the Washington Post, hardly a right wing bastion.

The CCES report is a 50,000+ person national stratified sample survey administered by YouGov/Polimetrix.  Per Wiki, "YouGov is headquartered in the UK and is a member of the British Polling Council and is also registered with the UK Information Commissioner's Office."

The statistical samples made appear to be performed in a legally supported method and sampling size.  In courts, such sampling is used to estimate damages assessed for civil courts and sentences in criminal court.  

Certainly, the sample is much more reliable than the silly 97.1 percent of scientist accept global warming, which even the TD cited recently.  That sample was from a very few persons who attended a seminar.  

Jt gets all his opinions/ideas from what some democrat 'tells or emails' him, and will ask, pretending he wants to know the truth, about the subject. But, even after being shown proof the claims/stories are false, he still clings to, and repeats, the lies the left circulates.

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True believers are the real bitter, clingers.  He attacked the source of my information without checking for himself, Bigotry is a nasty thing, no matter the source or belief of the one who displays such. 

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Jesse Richman is Associate Professor of Political Science and International Studies at Old Dominion University, and Director of the ODU Social Science Research Center. David Earnest is Associate Professor of Political Science and International Studies at Old Dominion University, and Associate Dean for Research & Graduate Studies in the College of Arts and Letters.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...e-november-election/

Jesse Richman, Associate Professor, Department of Political Science and Geography

Dr. Jesse Richman is Associate Professor of Political Science at at Old Dominion University.  He holds a PHD in Political Science from Carnegie Mellon University, and came to ODU in 2006 after teaching at Vanderbilt University.  Dr. Richman teaches courses in American Politics and research methods for the Department of Political Science and Geography, and also teaches Game Theory for the Graduate Program in International Studies.  Dr.Richman is Faculty Director of the Social Science Research Center.

Dr. Richman has aut****d and co-aut****d refereed articles on American politics which have appeared in several scholarly journals including American Political Science Review, Legislative Studies Quarterly, State Politics and Policy Quarterly, and White House Studies.  He is also coauthor of the book Trading Away Our Future.

http://ww2.odu.edu/~jrichman/

David C. Earnest is an associate professor of political science and international studies, having completed his Ph.D. in political science at The George Washington University in 2004. Earnest also holds an M.A. in security policy studies from the Elliott School of International Affairs at The George Washington University, and a B.A. in political science from Stanford University. He teaches international political economy and political methodology. His substantive research focuses on the political incorporation of migrants in democratic societies, while his methodology interests are in the application of agent-based models to problems of international politics.

Dr. Earnest has published in leading journals including World Politics and the International Studies Quarterly. He is author of Old Nations, New Voters: Nationalism, Transnationalism and Democracy in the Era of Global Migration (2008, State University of New York Press).

Previously he held an appointment as a Fellow in Political-Military Studies at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington, DC, where he was a specialist in military technology, the defense industrial base, and transatlantic security relations.

 http://al.odu.edu/gpis/faculty/earnest.shtml

Following all these educated answers to my question, how many cases of voter fraud has been proven over the last 10 years? 

The only answer I read from these post is statistical sampling and personal put downs.

One of you geniuses put a real answer out. Is it because you can't or because it would make you look silly.

By the way, there is a number in the news.

JT,  if you honestly believe your own bull I have to say I have never seen anyone as deep in denial as you. This is something that any legitimate voter/citizen of this country should be concerned with, but you try to act like it's something made up. Maybe you aren't worried about who is sticking their beaks into our elections and trying/succeeding in way too many cases, to gain control of our political offices, but it does concern sensible folks. Now, you tell us how many cases of voter fraud there has been over the last ten years, then after you do that, tell us how you know. It is asinine of you to try to say voter fraud doesn't happen, and demand someone supply you with numbers.

How many people are cheating on their taxes jt? Or are you going to claim none do because no one can give a satisfactory, to you, answer on the number? ONE case is one too much, and for every one case there are thousands not known. Funny too, if a lefty loses an election he/she thought they had in the bag, they will yell "voter fraud"!!

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local...ounts-of-voter-fraud

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Critics of voter ID and other laws cracking down on voter fraud claim they’re unnecessary because fraud is nonexistent. For instance, Brennan Center attorneys Michael Waldman and Justin Levitt claimed last year: “A person casting two votes risks jail time and a fine for minimal gain. Proven voter fraud, statistically, happens about as often as death by lightning strike.” (What BS this statement is jt, and these are the folks you'd have us believe)

Well, lightning is suddenly all over Cincinnati, Ohio. The Hamilton County Board of Elections is investigating 19 possible cases of alleged voter fraud that occurred when Ohio was a focal point of the 2012 presidential election. A total of 19 voters and nine witnesses are part of the probe.

Democrat Melowese Richardson has been an official poll worker for the last quarter century and registered thousands of people to vote last year. She candidly admitted to Cincinnati’s Channel 9 this week that she voted twice in the last election.

http://www.nationalreview.com/...oming-back-john-fund

exactly how many cases of 'voter fraud' did W Bush find, after his 5 YEAR investigation? you rt. wingnuts are using the 'voter fraud' excuse to violate voting rights for a LARGE number of americans. where's the rt. wingnut outrage over that?

Presented with evidence of voter fraud, the left retrenches to prosecutions in years past.  The evidence is new and one expects the present DoJ to prosecute about the time the Titanic arrives in port. 

JT and Crash, how many casualties on the Axis did the US inflict by November 1941?  About zero, wasn't it!  Does that make FDR a poor war time president. 

Prove a "large" amount of LEGAL voters being denied if voter ID becomes law.

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Waiting for you to explain how this would mainly affect democratic voters, and why you don't care about the Republican voters it could affect. The left never gets tired/ashamed of being hypocrites and spreading their misinformation and outright lies.

Why won't any right winger tell how many cases of voter fraud has been found and prosecuted in the last 10 years?

Dire, in your last posting

 JT and Crash, how many casualties on the Axis did the US inflict by November 1941?  About zero, wasn't it!  Does that make FDR a poor war time president. 

Talk about deflecting from the subject. Dire, you are getting desperate, That has to be the worst answer I have ever saw you post.

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No, that you are unfamiliar with the rules of logical argumentation has been obvious for quite a time.  I used reductio ad absurdum, in this case.  Obviously, even though WWII was ongoing for over two years, there were no axis casualties caused by the US, because the US did not enter the war until December.  

Similarly, the internal controls and studies showing that, indeed, voter fraud exists, and not just a few cases, as the studies and controls took effect after the time period you cite in desperation.

Jt, why don't we expand your reasoning. If we should infer that there are no illegal voters voting because there are few prosecutions, then we can infer there is no problem with illegal immigrants because there are no prosecutions. There ya go, another problem solved by leftie reasoning.

I'm tired of this. If any of you could put an accurate number on voter fraud, you would have done it. All I have saw has been opinions, guesses and estimations. Dire did use some impressive words in some of his posts.

I'm through, y'all keep dreaming.

I'm tired of this.

I'm through

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Good, you were getting tiresome  because you're thick as five feet of concrete, and it's a waste of time posting facts to you because you can't grasp facts you are told/shown, and have to be led around by the hypocritical lying left.

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Friend, I see a problem here . As I have said, as long as ID's are easily obtainable and free, then I don't have a problem , but in some states, like Texas, not even a student ID is sufficient.
It isn't about "protecting the vote" it's really about voter suppression.

Any left wing nuts going to tell us where jobs come from? LOL! How about all those jobs you claim obummer has added? Start by telling us where they are, and then tell us who 'created' them.

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Jay Campbell

Bill Clinton was in the right place at the right time. He was in office when the greatest technology-driven productivity improvement in the history of mankind became ubiquitous: the personal computer. The PC, a device invented by private business---not government, spurred a growth increase that lifted all boats. Clinton's tax and minimum wage increases weren't enough to counteract the wealth surge, but they tried. As for Hillary, she's another historical revisionist who has never produced a thing telling us how it's done. She's a carpet bagger.

LOL!!! All that money for other things, but no money to get the correct ID to vote? BTW, it used to be FREE to get copies of birth certificates at the health dept. Because we have to support so much of the country they had to start charging. Yep, money to dress 'fly' and have a wedding that costs thousands but not enough money or SENSE to get a copy of the old BC/marriage license?  Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. People that stupid shouldn't even be voting. They can get that BC when they need it to sign up for the give away programs. You want to be a citizen? Then sthu and put out the money you need for the correct 'papers'.

Its quite obvious why student IDs aren't accepted -- they don't show whether one is a citizen, or not.  If, the DNC truly os concerned, let them setup a fund to ensure everyone can obtain a birth certificate. -- relatively inexpensive.  Then, with that, they can obtain the no fee voters ID. 

and then you rt. wingnuts would be *****ing about 'democrats only help people get registered to vote, that are democrats' or 'democrats are giving illegals birth certificates'... anyone can see where this is going. IF you want everyone to present a valid id, make them free and easily accessible. period.

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In college and not smart enough to get a photo ID with all the pertinent information. This is like the ones that spends THOUSANDS a year to attend college, can get student loans for thousands, can make websites to tell all the students about the 'party schools', where the places to be/party are, can find and spend tons of money in those places, get beer and other alcohol, weed, whatever, but they can't figure out how to vote? As stated, that means they're too stupid to vote, their parents are too stupid to show them what to do, and have mercy on us, they are our future.

Texas does allow provisional ballots for those without a proper picture ID. One still needs to provide some identification for a provisional ballot; so simple refusal to show I.D. doesn't give someone the right to vote.

around 40,000 voters, in GA, were told today... 'they'll get around to finishing your registration', by a republican appointed judge. thus denying them their right to vote in the upcoming election. most haven't received the registered voter information and don't even know where to turn out to vote.  i haven't had time to research the length of time the counties had to enter the registration, or how it got to GA court. that's FORTY THOUSAND. where is the republican outrage? GA is a solid republican state. what seems to be the problem?

What someone forgot,  "According to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution,​ nearly 40,000 voter-registration applications in Georgia that were unaccounted for have been found and processed, and those applicants are now registered to vote..."

http://www.theroot.com/article...ck_and_hispanic.html

silly dire... your story is dated oct 16th... the new ruling came out TODAY!  for someone who's use to 'sorting through piles of data' , you sure don't seem to be too good at it.

You know we all know that election time was "is" coming the fact that you did not proactively ensure your right to vote is not a excuse.  

The Atlanta paper reported that the 40,000 were registered by 16 October.  Unless, there are another 40,000; I suspect any other source is late in reporting. Citing the source, would be a good idea. 

HF, it seems they just aren't in a hurry to process the registrations... they've had enough time to file the lawsuits and for this to be reviewed by a court.. and according to the article posted by dire, the problem was supposed to be resolved TWO WEEKS AGO... i'd say they were "actively pursuing" their registration... wouldn't you?

well,dire... here's a story from june.. where the republican party claimed they were 'processing fraudulent forms', even though they are required, by law, to turn in every form sent in to them.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/...-democrat-led-group/

here's a 'think progress' link dated yesterday, clearly stating the issues vs. the solutions offered by the republicans in charge...

http://thinkprogress.org/elect...y-georgia-elections/

both of those links show the republicans trying their dead level best to stop people from voting.. how about you address that? no deflections.. no 'voter fraud BS'.. your 'party of stupid' is trying to plainly stop americans from voting. period.

If, one  will not cite one's source, then any statements are not believable. 

you don't see links? you don't see them posted, in blue, between the words i wrote? come on man.. you've got to have something more than that.

I was speaking of the original post.  of the two subsequent posts, the first was dated 10 September.  and, the second dated 26 October.  However, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution clearly stated that the 40,000 were registered by 16 October.  I'll take that over a left wing blog. 

right, because you're outraged over 'voter fraud' , but you don't have time for 'americans being denied the right to vote'.  more utter nonsense from the rt. wingnuts.