Hyprocrisy unbounded

Former Presidents Obama and Bush made speeches yesterday both harping on the state of political divides in the current year and without naming Trump surely pointed his direction as if it is his fault.  My feelings are as follows, and they are subject to mistake but please correct me if I am wrong.

In this last year's Presidential campaign ads specifically by Candidate Trump and the Republican party were for the most part ads explaining Trumps proposals to "Make America Great Again".  Ad's to emphasize tax cuts, building a wall and eliminating Obamacare (Democratic Healthcare).  Ad's from Hillary Clinton and the Democrats almost 100% were detrimental and negative toward Trump lambasting him and telling how horrible Trump and little to nothing about what they wanted to do or how they would govern.  

Now that Trump is President studies have proven and found that between 92%-95% of the reporting by all American news organizations are NEGATIVE toward President Trump.  Yes Trump has used Twitter extensively but in most if not all cases it was to defend himself or counter an attack against him.  Trump, at least to my knowledge, never went on the offensive and used any form of media or communication to start something aggressive toward Democrats or any one of his enemies.  Trumps statements about Fake News came after the Media's totally one sided attacks on him were continued from the Campaign to after his inauguration.  

I could be wrong but; 100% of the divisive politics and attempts to divide people have come solely from the Democrats or liberal Left yet they are the ones attempting to blame Donald Trump as if he's been the one doing exactly what they have continued to do all along.  Such Hypocrisy without bounds it cannot even be measured or calculated.  Obama was a good one to complain about Political divide with all the things he did  with his Administration such as using the FBI and IRS as political tools to squash his political enemies and with regards to those causing such political divide today it's generally either those sore losers who still can't get over losing trying to fabricate some kind of Russian involvement to explain what is of their own fault and making or it's those so affected by Trump Derangement Syndrome or a combination of the two.   Now to go and try to blame Trump for all this is just laughable.

Be as the Bereans ( Acts 17:11 )
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the democrat way has been to divert.  they pushed claims that Trump worked with Russia. all while they sold uranium to Russia.  while there is a vid of Obama whispering to Russia official that after election he will be able to do more with them.  as soon as weinhart stuff came out, democrats pointed back to Trump being a woman abuser. they twist words to change the narrative.   8 years of a black president and we have more racial challenges than we have had in years.  democrat leaders are trying to bring USA down and being successful.   

1130 posted:

the democrat way has been to divert.  they pushed claims that Trump worked with Russia. all while they sold uranium to Russia.  while there is a vid of Obama whispering to Russia official that after election he will be able to do more with them.  as soon as weinhart stuff came out, democrats pointed back to Trump being a woman abuser. they twist words to change the narrative.   8 years of a black president and we have more racial challenges than we have had in years.  democrat leaders are trying to bring USA down and being successful.   

Dems also use the tactic of Incrementalism to foist social change on us all. Beginning in the 1930's Dems borrowed Mussolini's corporatism (Socialism with the facade of capitalism!) as a way to slowly push us to their goal of owning both the means of production and all property while also having control over our lives. As an example, Ol'bamadidn'tcare was designed to fail so the general public would demand single payer health insurance after Dems push all the blame on those greedy crony capitalists who also enriched those beneficent leaders who care about our welfare .

Also Dems have chosen to gradually change the mores of the nation from the Judeo-Christian tradition to the "do it if it feels good" modern European values. It doesn't matter about the number of shattered lives and the body count it produces as long as the unwashed masses stay out of the communities of the elites. Perversion and "Street Culture" are celebrated while integrity and fidelity are ridiculed. The end result will be that the left will have reason to exert more control over our lives.

You could get an indication of just how low and corrupt they (democrats and the liberal media) are when you had the undercover story about Planned Parenthood selling off baby parts, from abortions, in order to enrich the physicians and allow them to purchase their dream cars and the venom and condemnation was of the one who secretly filmed the physician.

Condemnation was quick and swift against not Planned Parenthood or the doctor for their atrocious activities but the media's venom was directed toward the one who caught them in their evil actions.   

You bunch of whiny little snowflakes. Not one of you had any problems with portraying President Obama or  the First Lady as a monkey. None of you had one problem with Fox News screaming about President Obama being a Muslim. Now, all you wanna do is cry about the treatment of Trump?

As far as the mentioned 'selling of body parts', I'm guessing the choice to ignore facts supports the Republican base's claims. The claims of 'selling body parts' was proven to be a hoax and the parties who made the claims were prosecuted, as such.

By all means, don't let those facts stop you from spreading your Alt. Right propaganda.

SirWasabi posted:

You bunch of whiny little snowflakes. Not one of you had any problems with portraying President Obama or  the First Lady as a monkey. None of you had one problem with Fox News screaming about President Obama being a Muslim. Now, all you wanna do is cry about the treatment of Trump?

As far as the mentioned 'selling of body parts', I'm guessing the choice to ignore facts supports the Republican base's claims. The claims of 'selling body parts' was proven to be a hoax and the parties who made the claims were prosecuted, as such.

By all means, don't let those facts stop you from spreading your Alt. Right propaganda.

So, this video is a figment of your imagination?

http://www.news.com.au/lifesty...cdd6aa9fa12f6ecb54d5

None of what you mention is considered so called, Alt Right.  If, one wishes to use terms, one should not sling them around in ignorance. 

 

No more than the HUNDREDS of articles proving the video is a hoax are a figment of your imagination. All of what is posted about the hoax of P.P. selling body parts are Alt. Right facts. Another example is 'pizza gate'. When you post articles and defend the Alt. Right, you are one.  One should not sling the term ignorance around, unless one understands their own ignorance.

SirWasabi posted:

No more than the HUNDREDS of articles proving the video is a hoax are a figment of your imagination. All of what is posted about the hoax of P.P. selling body parts are Alt. Right facts. Another example is 'pizza gate'. When you post articles and defend the Alt. Right, you are one.  One should not sling the term ignorance around, unless one understands their own ignorance.

You remind me of those Norks who insist there are no prison camps.  No, the video was not proven false.  Just accusations were made.  

You remind me of the kid with the 'dunce' cap. All mouth and no facts. In terms for your Republican mind 'All hat, No cattle.'

Not one shred of evidence was ever found to support the claims made in the videos. Including the efforts of several congressional Republicans. Facts are facts. Alt. Facts can just be made up on the fly, as evidenced in your posts.

"Not one of you had any problems with portraying President Obama or  the First Lady as a monkey".

 

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After all the pictures you lefties posted portraying George Bush as a monkey, hanging him, beheading him, calling for his death and the death of his family.etc. you cried when the monkey pics were done to obama and the sasquatch. And the POS obama is a muzzie. Now you have started on Trump, calling him names, one being an orangutan and lying your lefty azzes off about him. Take your hypocrisy and two faces and go back into hiding.

Bestworking posted:

"Not one of you had any problems with portraying President Obama or  the First Lady as a monkey".

 

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After all the pictures you lefties posted portraying George Bush as a monkey, hanging him, beheading him, calling for his death and the death of his family.etc. you cried when the monkey pics were done to obama and the sasquatch. And the POS obama is a muzzie. Now you have started on Trump, calling him names, one being an orangutan and lying your lefty azzes off about him. Take your hypocrisy and two faces and go back into hiding.

Wow! Such a hate filled person. Perhaps you should see someone and get some help dealing with all that pent up hatred. I bet you have a hard time sleeping with all that hate in your heart. I wish you the best in your journey to mental stability. Do you suffer from Bipolar Disorder as well?

SirWasabi posted:
Bestworking posted:

"Not one of you had any problems with portraying President Obama or  the First Lady as a monkey".

 

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After all the pictures you lefties posted portraying George Bush as a monkey, hanging him, beheading him, calling for his death and the death of his family.etc. you cried when the monkey pics were done to obama and the sasquatch. And the POS obama is a muzzie. Now you have started on Trump, calling him names, one being an orangutan and lying your lefty azzes off about him. Take your hypocrisy and two faces and go back into hiding.

Wow! Such a hate filled person. Perhaps you should see someone and get some help dealing with all that pent up hatred. I bet you have a hard time sleeping with all that hate in your heart. I wish you the best in your journey to mental stability. Do you suffer from Bipolar Disorder as well?

Yes, you always default to "hate filled" when your crap is pushed back on you. What did I post that isn't true? Shouldn't you still be mourning?

I simply stated what I thought was obvious. I'm sorry you didn't know. What did you post that was/is true? That's the elephant in the room.
Did you know Trump tried to sue Bill Maher for claiming Trump's mother was an orangutan? Trump showed up with his birth certificate and a lawyer. Doesn't that make you hate that gimmethat Trump?  and that was BEFORE Trump ever had any political aspirations.

SirWasabi posted:

I simply stated what I thought was obvious. I'm sorry you didn't know. What did you post that was/is true? That's the elephant in the room.
Did you know Trump tried to sue Bill Maher for claiming Trump's mother was an orangutan? Trump showed up with his birth certificate and a lawyer. Doesn't that make you hate that gimmethat Trump?  and that was BEFORE Trump ever had any political aspirations.

Trying to muddy the waters, eh? Again, what did I post that wasn't the truth?

SirWasabi posted:

Again, what did you post what was true?

After all the pictures you lefties posted portraying George Bush as a monkey, hanging him, beheading him, calling for his death and the death of his family etc., you cried when the monkey pics were done to obama and the sasquatch. And the POS obama is a muzzie. Now you have started on Trump, calling him names, one being an orangutan and lying your lefty azzes off about him. Take your hypocrisy and two faces and go back into hiding.

direstraits posted:

Since he added nothing of significance, I've put the Green Mustard on ignore.  

In the US you rarely get the real thing, made from the wasabi plant. It's made of different things, one being horseradish. Fake like "Sirwasabi", who is full of horse**** instead of horseradish.

giftedamateur posted:
direstraits posted:

Since he added nothing of significance, I've put the Green Mustard on ignore.  

In the US you rarely get the real thing, made from the wasabi plant. It's made of different things, one being horseradish. Fake like "Sirwasabi", who is full of horse**** instead of horseradish.

I'm sorry you've been eating 'horse****'. What takes the smell off your breath?

SirWasabi posted:
giftedamateur posted:
direstraits posted:

Since he added nothing of significance, I've put the Green Mustard on ignore.  

In the US you rarely get the real thing, made from the wasabi plant. It's made of different things, one being horseradish. Fake like "Sirwasabi", who is full of horse**** instead of horseradish.

I'm sorry you've been eating 'horse****'. What takes the smell off your breath?

 

SirWasabi posted:
giftedamateur posted:
direstraits posted:

Since he added nothing of significance, I've put the Green Mustard on ignore.  

In the US you rarely get the real thing, made from the wasabi plant. It's made of different things, one being horseradish. Fake like "Sirwasabi", who is full of horse**** instead of horseradish.

I'm sorry you've been eating 'horse****'. What takes the smell off your breath?

Gee professor, I thought you wanted us to think you were so smart and all that, and yet you are making your usual dumbazzed posts. I can see your sabbatical from the forums didn't do anything for you.

Something the left needs to consider:

http://freebeacon.com/uncatego...hington-free-beacon/

Since its launch in February of 2012, the Washington Free Beacon has retained third party firms to conduct research on many individuals and institutions of interest to us and our readers. In that capacity, during the 2016 election cycle we retained Fusion GPS to provide research on multiple candidates in the Republican presidential primary, just as we retained other firms to assist in our research into Hillary Clinton. All of the work that Fusion GPS provided to the Free Beacon was based on public sources, and none of the work product that the Free Beacon received appears in the Steele dossier. The Free Beacon had no knowledge of or connection to the Steele dossier, did not pay for the dossier, and never had contact with, knowledge of, or provided payment for any work performed by Christopher Steele. Nor did we have any knowledge of the relationship between Fusion GPS and the Democratic National Committee, Perkins Coie, and the Clinton campaign.

It would seem that Fusion GPS provided two products; one factual report on multiple Republican candidates to the Washington Free Beacon and a work of fiction from foreign former spies on Trump for the DNC and the Clinton Campaign along with just the data on Trump from the former report. I would hope that any "facts" that are being considered by the Mueller inquisition come from the first product and not from the vodka buzz of former KGB agents.

I might also note that the nonpartisan Campaign Legal Center has filed a complaint with the Federal Election Commission that the Clinton campaign and the DNC broke election law by not disclosing the payments to Fusion GPS for their research.

https://docs.google.com/viewer...0%2528Filed%2529.pdf

I posted this on another forum article.  Originally, under the aegis of Republican Never Trumpers, used the Washington Free Beacon to do opposition work on Trump, plus other Republican candidates.  This was not part of the dossier prepared by Steele.

Hillary's lawyer, Marc Elias, stated he hired Fusion GPS in April 2016 to do opposition research on Trump.  Fusion GPS engaged Christopher Steele, former Brit spy (MI6 per wiki) to work on the dossier.  Steele contacted Russian agents for information.  Besides the salacious golden shower story, the dossier stated Trump colluded with the Russians to hack DNC email.  Steele stated the dossier was unverified and was NOT supposed to be shown to outside press by Fusion GPS.  

http://www.washingtontimes.com...er-charge-unverifie/

The dossier has NOT been verified, despite left wing claims.  Julian Assange (WikiLeaks) exposed the DNC and Podesta email.  Assange claims he did not get the info from the Russians.  Recently, Democrats claimed the Assange is a Russian stooge.  Its getting interesting.  The only crime identified is that Fusion GPS and the DNC did not report the $6 million or so expended on the dossier and the use of foreign persons to prepare the dossier.  The first is a civil crime.  The second can be a felony.

SirWasabi posted:

Republicans are going to any lengths to ignore facts. It's becoming quite comical and yet sad, at the same time.

Come on now, posting a statement like that without mentioning the Democratic Party, that certainly owns the patient on hypocrisy and ignoring facts.  I don't know that Democrats ignore the facts I think that their modus operandi is to take factual information and treat it as disproven information and to take fictional items and proceed on it as if it was factual.  That's essentially what they have been doing with the Trump/Russian collusion rumors.  They pay millions for an  opposition research group which creates a fictional dossier on trump that the Obama Justice department treats as fact and uses as the basis for the whole Trump investigation including those in the Senate as well.   

This has become proven that the Democrats paid for this fake document then their politicians and Obama's Justice department was proven to have used this known fake document as a basis for, and justification for, their future investigations.  How's that for ignoring the fact that there was no evidence for collusion and proceeding on fake information taking thousands of taxpayers dollars chasing this preverbal white rabbit down a dark deep hole.  

The real irony in the whole thing is that the real collusion between American politicians and Russians was from Hillary Clinton and the Democrats in allowing the Russians access to at least 20% of our nations Uranium in exchange for paying the Clinton Foundation around half a million dollars for a 20 minute or so speech by Bill Clinton.  And none of this is even investigated or reported on by the national media.  Facts treated as fiction and fiction treated as facts all by the Democrats and their operatives which includes the national media, for the most part.   Yet you only mention Republicans, with no specifics. 

You see I'm not saying the Republicans are not guilty of doing what you allege but the overwhelming balance of these things are by the Democrats which you exclude all together.  Why is that?

 

The only known meeting of Russian and Trump election officials involved the Russian lawyer (with ties to Fusion GPS).   She offered info on the Clintons, but never gave any such info, rather brought up the Magnitsky  amendment.  No funds exchanged hands.  

How do charges get filled, with coming arrests, from something that is 'fake'. How on earth do the Republicans not see the facts? What rocks to y'all live under? When an arrest is made, probably monday or tuesday, will you be forced to admit the 'fake dossier' is real? Or did a Republican run Washington D.C. just fall under pressure from the DNC? Charges have been filed. Charges from an investigation fueled by the 'fake dossier'. How many times can you ignore facts and spread the Alt right propaganda?

SirWasabi posted:

How do charges get filled, with coming arrests, from something that is 'fake'. How on earth do the Republicans not see the facts? What rocks to y'all live under? When an arrest is made, probably monday or tuesday, will you be forced to admit the 'fake dossier' is real? Or did a Republican run Washington D.C. just fall under pressure from the DNC? Charges have been filed. Charges from an investigation fueled by the 'fake dossier'. How many times can you ignore facts and spread the Alt right propaganda?

Actually the dossier has been proven to be fake and fraudulent in every way.  As for the arrest or charges if no one knows what's coming then how do you know it's going to be as you suggest?  I think we all should wait and see but there is no speculation or doubt about the legitimacy of the dossier .. It's FAKE for certain and was obtained by a company paid for by the Democrats, and Clinton Campaign, also proven and admitted to as of this time.  The same company  was initially hired by Republicans to dig up info during the campaign but later was also hired and paid in excess of 6 million by the Democrats and from that came the dossier that has been proven to be fraudulent.  Another thing that is beyond dispute is that the FBI and Justice Department, under Obama, had said that the dossier was the basis of their investigation against Trump but that statement was made before everyone knew that the dossier was fake, everyone except the FBI and others in the know.  The whole thing stinks of corruption wither Republican or Democrats and most likely maybe both parties.  The thing you seem incapable of admitting is that your own party or those you support are capable of doing such things and you want to always point to Republicans.  Why is that?

Well the arrest, and charges,  are out and NONE of them deal with Trump or the purported Russian collusion.  The reason is that no collusion ever existed but it was all made up, false and rooted in deceitful false information.  The charges deal with events and acts before the Donald Trump campaign but yes they are against friends and acquaintances of Trump.  The news of the other arrest, of lying to the FBI, happened weeks ago but information of it was held to be released with the Manafort indictment.   

NOW I wonder if investigations (and indictments) will come from the proven false attempts to influence the election with known false information?  I wonder if there will be any of these people who have already convicted Trump and the Campaign of collusion will finally admit that they have been chasing a red herring and that they were wrong all along?  That day will never come I'm afraid.

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