I almost threw up laughing when I read this headline, Obama would not know ethical actions if they bit him on his derriere. He also is going to forgo the class most Ex- Presidents have and keep his mouth shut about the new President after leaving office.
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He still thinks we care what he thinks. He hasn't been relevant since he was elected. As out spoken as Trump is, I wish he'd tell obama, hilliary, and the other demoslops to sthu, and go somewhere and die.
Yeah, you voted for Trump. I'm sure you couldn't be happier, that you voted a sociopath with the emotional development of a five year old, to be the leader of this country. It's going to be a real shocker for you when he doesn't build the wall, doesn't deport 11 million "illegal immigrants", and there's not going to be a "Lock her up". So, you've been played. He'll last about 6 months, before he's impeached, for God only knows what.
#NOTMYPRESIDENT posted:Yeah, you voted for Trump. I'm sure you couldn't be happier, that you voted a sociopath with the emotional development of a five year old, to be the leader of this country. It's going to be a real shocker for you when he doesn't build the wall, doesn't deport 11 million "illegal immigrants", and there's not going to be a "Lock her up". So, you've been played. He'll last about 6 months, before he's impeached, for God only knows what.
And you voted for hilliary and haven't stopped crying and peeing your pants since November the 9th, when it was official that the decent part of the country didn't want the corrupt, criminal old brain dead cow. I don't care if he doesn't build a wall, I didn't vote for him because of that, I think he will deport illegals, and every little bit he does will help, but I didn't vote for him for that, I don't care if he locks her up, I didn't vote for him for that.
She's not president, and she can sit and think about calling millions of voters "deplorables" because she thought she had it in the bag and could blow off like that. Wonder how she likes those deplorables now? That's why I voted for him, because the vile, self-centered, sick, entitled feeling, corrupt, jealous, anti-American, woman hating, enabler of a molester of women and most likely children, criminal old cow thought she could call millions of voters names because they did not like her.
Too, looks like she might lose some of her money and that my friend means more to her than anything in the world. I voted for Trump because he isn't hilliary, and maybe it's the start of the end of the demoslops, and hopefully there will never be another dem in office again. BTW, another point, I remember when the hypocritical demoslops told us to get over it, that obama was indeed our president. Now look at you. Too, remember when hilliary said she was "horrified" because Trump would not say he'd accept the election results? LOL! Now look at you. You have a musty, recycled smell about you. No doubt one of those "what are you going to do when hilliary wins" posters with a new costume. Bye bye. Go to your safe place now.
I sure did vote for Hillary Clinton and she won the popular vote. From you reply, you fit the description of "deplorable", you know....uneducated, uninformed, etc. So, you just hang on to the Confederate flag and keep on hating.....
#NOTMYPRESIDENT posted:I sure did vote for Hillary Clinton and she won the popular vote. From you reply, you fit the description of "deplorable", you know....uneducated, uninformed, etc. So, you just hang on to the Confederate flag and keep on hating.....
Electoral Trumps Popular.
Aren't you clever...Love Trumps Hate...something I doubt you know anything about. Alexander Hamilton would be rolling over in his grave at this debacle. (you can google him)
#NOTMYPRESIDENT posted:Aren't you clever...Love Trumps Hate...something I doubt you know anything about. Alexander Hamilton would be rolling over in his grave at this debacle. (you can google him)
Maybe you should google him. While you're googling him google electoral college and how it works. "Love Trumps Hate", isn't that what all of you keep saying while you attack people and destroy others' property? Where's your fearless leader while this is going on? On a bender, curled up in the fetal position bawling her eyes out? I don't have a Confederate flag, but that's a great suggestion. I think I will get one, or two. Now, go to your safe place. I'm finished with your racist dumb ***.
If you want deplorable just get a load of hilliary's supporters.
As I posted earlier, Democrats are proceeding in the ways of their ancestors, who used night riders to terrify their opponents. From 1864 to 1968, the KKK lynched about 5,000 people, including 3,500 blacks and 1,500 white Republicans. During the campaign the Democrats used Richard Creamer who visited the White House 340 times, including 42 visits with Obama. Creamer acted as their Standartenführer organizing their brown shirt bully boy SA -Sturmabteilung.
Post the campaign, like the diehard NSDAP Werewolves, they continue their reign of terror.
"The presidential election isn't officially over until the electoral votes are cast in mid-December, and that includes the 38 votes from Texas.
The 38 Texans who will vote are all Republicans, because Donald Trump won Texas, but they don't have to vote for Trump.
In Texas, unlike some other states, electors may change their mind, and it has Democrats from around the country urging them to do just that, said Alex Kim, an elector for Texas' 24th Congressional District.
"At first everyone was kinda enchanted by it," Kim said. "Now all the electors are starting to get beaten down. There are some electors who have been threatened with harm or with death."
A Michigan elector received at least one threat, according to a Detroit News report.
Kim was named an elector at the Republican Party of Texas State Convention. Since the election, he said he has been receiving thousands of e-mails a day from all across the county.
"Usually the Electoral College is very ceremonial. You're there, you cast your vote and you're done," said.
But this year, things are different with the popular vote and the Electoral College vote at odds for only the fourth time in American history, and people are trying to convince electors to break their ranks.
"I had no idea it would be like this," Kim said.
But his position isn't wavering.
"When people ask me to vote for Hillary Clinton, there's no way," he said. "I reject the Democratic Party principles and I reject Hillary Clinton."
When he gets a nasty note, Kim's message is pure Texas.
"You may all go to hell, and I shall go to Texas," Kim joked. "If it was good enough for Davy Crockett, then it's good enough for me."
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/loc...Vote--401818136.html
Democrats haven't been so enraged at Republicans since they took away their slaves.
In a further note, Hillary released the names of her new cabinet -- Johnny Walker, Jack Daniels and Grey Goose.
Hmm...gotta say, Direstraits, you are pretty good at copy and paste. On a happier note, news is reporting that Mrs. Trump, ex. stripper...I mean model, won't be spending much time in the WH.
#NOTMYPRESIDENT posted:Hmm...gotta say, Direstraits, you are pretty good at copy and paste. On a happier note, news is reporting that Mrs. Trump, ex. stripper...I mean model, won't be spending much time in the WH.
And, hilliary and her main munch huma won't be spending any time in the WH.
direstraits posted:In a further note, Hillary released the names of her new cabinet -- Johnny Walker, Jack Daniels and Grey Goose.
LOL! Has huma dropped her?
#NOTMYPRESIDENT posted:Hmm...gotta say, Direstraits, you are pretty good at copy and paste. On a happier note, news is reporting that Mrs. Trump, ex. stripper...I mean model, won't be spending much time in the WH.
Interesting avatar, the Che failed at almost everything he attempted, except being Castro's executioner. He really took to mass murder, allowing trials only after the sentence was passed. If possible, he shot a young child of the person he ordered to the wall in front of the condemned man. Finally became such a liability Castro was glad to let him sneak off to Ecuador to carry out the revolution there. Big mistake for several reasons -- old jungle fighter in a near treeless land. Plus, Castro gave the order for all communists in the area not to provide him help, "not even a bandaid."
Give Google a rest...
While you're googling him google electoral college and how it works.
Best, I know how the republicans gerrymandered state districts to help ensure that republicans would win state and local elections. I had no idea they had been able to allocate electoral votes to achieve the same thing on a national level. When you check out each states population and the number of electoral votes they have, it has been done.
#NOTMYPRESIDENT posted:Give Google a rest...
Didn't use anything. Remember that filthy creature, well. I prefer Bing to Goggle, which has fixed their algorithms in favor of Hillary.
jtdavis posted:While you're googling him google electoral college and how it works.
Best, I know how the republicans gerrymandered state districts to help ensure that republicans would win state and local elections. I had no idea they had been able to allocate electoral votes to achieve the same thing on a national level. When you check out each states population and the number of electoral votes they have, it has been done.
Gerrymandering is the whiney Democrat excuse. The Republican won control of 68 of the 99 state assemblies, which set districts for the House, with as near equal populations as possible. However, except for two states, that had nothing to do with winning the electoral college votes. Only Maine and Nebraska divide their electoral votes by percentage of the vote. Maine went Democrat and Nebraska went Republican. Trump won by wining the largest number of electoral votes in enough states. The old rust belt states -- Ohio, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and (probably Michigan) put him well over the top. Democrats took those states for granted.
Why don't you post state population and electoral votes?
direstraits posted:#NOTMYPRESIDENT posted:Give Google a rest...
Didn't use anything. Remember that filthy creature, well. I prefer Bing to Goggle, which has fixed their algorithms in favor of Hillary.
Goggle? Don't spend so much time listening to Alex Jones...kills brain cells.
To notmypresident,
Since you were stupid enough to admit that you voted for Hillary and trump is not your president, I suggest you contact Al Sharpton or one of the other idiots that said they would leave the U. S. If Trump was elected and see if you can hitch a ride with one of them. I'm sure there are some that will help pay for your one way trip.
We do not want people like you whining and crying like a little baby here. Now whine some more because nobody cares!!!
Old American posted:To notmypresident,
Since you were stupid enough to admit that you voted for Hillary and trump is not your president, I suggest you contact Al Sharpton or one of the other idiots that said they would leave the U. S. If Trump was elected and see if you can hitch a ride with one of them. I'm sure there are some that will help pay for your one way trip.
We do not want people like you whining and crying like a little baby here. Now whine some more because nobody cares!!!
What exactly are "people like me".. wow, if I didn't know better, I would think that sounded slightly racist....last time I checked, the 1st amendment did guarantee me my right to free speech. If you don't like what I have to say, just ignore it...he's going to be impeached in about 6 months, no worries here...
#NOTMYPRESIDENT posted:Give Google a rest...
Do not like the truth huh?
Must not, otherwise I wouldn't be talking to a moron like you.
I explained people like you, read the rest of that line. I did not say you could not have freedom of speech, I said nobody wants to hear your whining and complaining. Get over it.
I am not a racist, just one of the deplorables I guess that helped defeat Hillary.
jtdavis posted:Why don't you post state population and electoral votes?
Give it a rest, JT. Find it yourself, or ask a 12-year old for help.
#NOTMYPRESIDENT posted:direstraits posted:#NOTMYPRESIDENT posted:Give Google a rest...
Didn't use anything. Remember that filthy creature, well. I prefer Bing to Goggle, which has fixed their algorithms in favor of Hillary.
Goggle? Don't spend so much time listening to Alex Jones...kills brain cells.
No, simply ran a few side-by-side searches of the same subject -- Goggle vs Bing. Hillary favorable links came up consistently over Bing. Goggle has done the same for advertisers for years, well known. Why not for her?
Old American posted:I am not a racist, just one of the deplorables I guess that helped defeat Hillary.
Yes, you are. Don't get to comfortable Trumpkin..in a New York minute, anything can change.
Truth hurts, you really are a Hillary supporter. Everything you don't like you cry racist. Like I said, keep whining and crying, but if you continue to live in the U.S.
you do have Trump as your next President. Like it or not!
#NOTMYPRESIDENT posted:I sure did vote for Hillary Clinton and she won the popular vote. From you reply, you fit the description of "deplorable", you know....uneducated, uninformed, etc. So, you just hang on to the Confederate flag and keep on hating.....
Did the slobbing beast actually win the popular vote,,?? NO..
Now, the Che, there was a racist, anti-Semite and homophobe, if ever there was one!
http://*******universe.blogspo...ophobe-and-anti.html
appears nanny censors links as well
http://b*a*s*tarduniverse.blog...ophobe-and-anti.html
Copy and paste, without the asterisks to reach the site.
Give it a rest, JT. Find it yourself, or ask a 12-year old for help.
Dire, I know you don't want to face reality in the election process, if you will check the allocation of the electoral votes and population, you will see how unfair it is.
jtdavis posted:Give it a rest, JT. Find it yourself, or ask a 12-year old for help.
Dire, I know you don't want to face reality in the election process, if you will check the allocation of the electoral votes and population, you will see how unfair it is.
Unfair? How? IF hilliary had gotten the electoral votes you'd be singing the electoral college's praises. "Hillary "horrified" Trump won't say he will accept the election results". Now look at you thugs.
jtdavis posted:Give it a rest, JT. Find it yourself, or ask a 12-year old for help.
Dire, I know you don't want to face reality in the election process, if you will check the allocation of the electoral votes and population, you will see how unfair it is.
Dire, Best and Jack: Per the 2010 census head count California had 37,341,989 population and 55 electoral votes. This equals 678,945 people per electoral vote.
Wyoming had 568,300 population and 3 electoral votes, this equals 189,433 people per electoral vote.
What is fair about that? Jack, what did I miss? Dire, those numbers are reality.
jtdavis posted:Dire, Best and Jack: Per the 2010 census head count California had 37,341,989 population and 55 electoral votes. This equals 678,945 people per electoral vote.
Wyoming had 568,300 population and 3 electoral votes, this equals 189,433 people per electoral vote.
What is fair about that? Jack, what did I miss? Dire, those numbers are reality.
JT. the electoral college is a compromise, like the Senate and House in Congress to protect small states from being completely overruled by large states. A representative from a small state often represents fewer persons than a representative from a large state. In the Senate, each state has two senators, so the states are equal in that house. Each state has the number of electors equal to the number of the senators and representatives.
Another form of gerrymandering???
jtdavis posted:Another form of gerrymandering???
JT, are you really that clueless? The Bureau of the Census determines the population of each state. Then, computes the number of representatives for each state. The vote for electors (8 November) was state wide --nothing to gerrymander.
JT. the electoral college was founded by the 12th Amendment to the US Constitution. It is how we elect presidents.
Here's how and why:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_College_(United_States)
All candidates plus informed voters know this every 4 years as well as every high schooler studying social science.
Why are you just now asking the question? By my estimate, the EC has been around at least 12 POTUS election cycles in your time and it's just now catching on to you. Or is it because your yellow dog has left the pound and after being abandoned by your blue collar workers, you might now have to think for yourself? You're not considering moving to a gerrymandered district carved out by the US DOJ where only the candidate of a particular race could win. If so, your lucky Trump is going to protect not only the 12th Amendment, but the 2nd as well cause history has recorded folks in those gerrymandered districts are sure gonna need some help.
The EC musta been around for 17 cycles in my life time. I recall 2 times the popular vote and the electoral vote were different. The first was Bush Jr. Look what that got us. I only hope that Trump will not be the same train wreck that Bush was.
jtdavis posted:The EC musta been around for 17 cycles in my life time. I recall 2 times the popular vote and the electoral vote were different. The first was Bush Jr. Look what that got us. I only hope that Trump will not be the same train wreck that Bush was.
JT, still attempting to resurrect that old, disproven myth. Once more, a recount sponsored by the NY Times showed Bush received the most votes in Florida. SCOTUS only demanded that the Florida Supreme Court obey their own state constitution.
direstraits posted:jtdavis posted:The EC musta been around for 17 cycles in my life time. I recall 2 times the popular vote and the electoral vote were different. The first was Bush Jr. Look what that got us. I only hope that Trump will not be the same train wreck that Bush was.
JT, still attempting to resurrect that old, disproven myth. Once more, a recount sponsored by the NY Times showed Bush received the most votes in Florida. SCOTUS only demanded that the Florida Supreme Court obey their own state constitution.
And if CBS hadn't erroneously called Florida for gore, Bush supporters would not have left the polls without voting, or stayed home without going out to vote for Bush. What happened to CBS for that? NOTHING.
Are Y'all saying that Bush got more popular votes nationwide than Gore did?
jtdavis posted:Are Y'all saying that Bush got more popular votes nationwide than Gore did?
Yep!
jtdavis posted:Are Y'all saying that Bush got more popular votes nationwide than Gore did?
What's wrong with you that makes you unable to understand posts?
giftedamateur posted:jtdavis posted:Are Y'all saying that Bush got more popular votes nationwide than Gore did?
What's wrong with you that makes you unable to understand posts?
Yep!
Dire, since you are unfamiliar with numbers, from wikipedia, in the 2000 election, Bush got 50,456,002 popular votes. Gore got 50,999,897. Gifted and Jack, do y'all want to correct wikipedia
jtdavis posted:Yep!
Dire, since you are unfamiliar with numbers, from wikipedia, in the 2000 election, Bush got 50,456,002 popular votes. Gore got 50,999,897. Gifted and Jack, do y'all want to correct wikipedia
I want to correct YOU. We were talking about FLORIDA. Go back and read the posts you insane thing! I could go in and "correct" wiki, anyone can. If there had been an adjustment for errors, such as the illegal votes tossed, the votes for Bush that were lost when the lefty media called Florida for Gore and the Bush voters went home etc., it's possible Bush would have won the popular vote nationally. However, we were discussing the state of Florida.
You have no idea how the electoral college works, and why and how it is fair, yet you vote! All you know is that your corrupt party lost, and now Hillary, other corrupt leaders and foreigners that have an interest in insinuating themselves into our politics, are trying to interfere and change the results of that fair election. It already stinks because there is no way she won the popular vote by such a margin, and there are other red flags being raised about the going ons of the ones wanting a recount.
Go read what Hillary said about Trump when he refused to say he would accept the election results, and as posted and pointed out, look at her, and you, now. The corrupt and criminal Democrats and their foreign pals were told the country is sick of them, and you just can't stand it.
jtdavis posted:Yep!
Dire, since you are unfamiliar with numbers, from wikipedia, in the 2000 election, Bush got 50,456,002 popular votes. Gore got 50,999,897. Gifted and Jack, do y'all want to correct wikipedia
I was quoting the total numbers from the 2000 presidential election. Again, Bush got less votes (about a half a million less) that Gore. But Bush got 5 more electoral votes (271 to 266). Jack, how is that "beating the snot out of someone"
jtdavis posted:I was quoting the total numbers from the 2000 presidential election. Again, Bush got less votes (about a half a million less) that Gore. But Bush got 5 more electoral votes (271 to 266). Jack, how is that "beating the snot out of someone"
Who was in the oval office for eight years..?? Bush or algore..??
Now look at her and the rest of the demoslops.
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Hillary Clinton, now a private citizen after conceding the election to Donald Trump, wants in on the recount effort Green Party nominee Jill Stein launched Friday, even though she previously called such a notion “horrifying.”
During the final debate between Clinton and Donald Trump last month in Las Vegas, Fox News Channel’s Chris Wallace asked Trump if he would honor the results of the election even if he lost.
“I will look at it at the time. I’m not looking at it now. What I’ve seen is so bad,” Trump responded.
Wallace pressed the question further, and Trump replied, “What I’m saying is I will tell you at the time.”
“I’ll keep you in suspense,” Trump said.
Clinton, apparently taken aback by Trump’s response to the matter, hit back “That’s horrifying.”
"Donald Trump refused to say that he’d respect the results of this election.
That’s a direct threat to our democracy".
She went on to say, “That’s not the way our democracy works. We’ve been around 240 years. We’ve had free and fair elections and we’ve accepted the outcomes when we may not have liked them and that is what must be expected of anyone standing on a debate stage during a general election. President Obama said the other day that when you’re whining before the game is even finished it just shows you’re not even up to doing the job. “
She added, “And let’s be clear about what he’s saying and what he means. He’s denigrating—he’s talking down our democracy. I for one am appalled that somebody who is the nominee of one of our major two parties would take that kind of position.”
Clinton was later asked by reporters about Trump’s statement at the debate and she said, “I truly doubt he has ever ready (sic) the Constitution.”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/11...video/#ixzz4RJzoiH00
jtdavis posted:Are Y'all saying that Bush got more popular votes nationwide than Gore did?
What part of the word FLORIDA did you not understand "mr highbrow"?
It's a good thing that Hillary lost, it would have taken forever for her to hand out all those medal of freedoms to all the foundation donors all over the world
Bestworking posted:jtdavis posted:Are Y'all saying that Bush got more popular votes nationwide than Gore did?
What part of the word FLORIDA did you not understand "mr highbrow"?
He thought FLORIDA was a public Cuban restandsexroom.
But then I'm beginning to think so myself..........
Highbrow
adjective -- derogatory
A person of perpetual amazement of the every day world..
Jack Flash posted:Bestworking posted:jtdavis posted:Are Y'all saying that Bush got more popular votes nationwide than Gore did?
What part of the word FLORIDA did you not understand "mr highbrow"?
He thought FLORIDA was a public Cuban restandsexroom.
But then I'm beginning to think so myself..........
Highbrow
adjective -- derogatory
A person of perpetual amazement of the every day world..
I'm still laughing at the DA jt calling Gifted "low brow"! I seriously doubt he even knows what it means.
Jack, did you understand the concept of numbers? Best, you notice I didnt ask you
jtdavis posted:Jack, did you understand the concept of numbers? Best, you notice I didnt ask you
I'm waiting for you to libplain that concept so I'll know for myself.
jtdavis posted:Jack, did you understand the concept of numbers? Best, you notice I didnt ask you
I don't know why you "ask" anyone anything. You don't believe anything anyone shows you.
Bestworking posted:Jack Flash posted:Bestworking posted:jtdavis posted:Are Y'all saying that Bush got more popular votes nationwide than Gore did?
What part of the word FLORIDA did you not understand "mr highbrow"?
He thought FLORIDA was a public Cuban restandsexroom.
But then I'm beginning to think so myself..........
Highbrow
adjective -- derogatory
A person of perpetual amazement of the every day world..
I'm still laughing at the DA jt calling Gifted "low brow"! I seriously doubt he even knows what it means.
He's pathetic.
jtdavis posted:Jack, did you understand the concept of numbers? Best, you notice I didnt ask you
I'm waiting for you to libplain that concept so I'll know for myself.
Jack, this is the way I was taught. The bigger number means that person got more votes. Can you grasp that concept?
Best and Gifted, I won't ask if y'all get it. I know you don't
jtdavis posted:jtdavis posted:Jack, did you understand the concept of numbers? Best, you notice I didnt ask you
I'm waiting for you to libplain that concept so I'll know for myself.
Jack, this is the way I was taught. The bigger number means that person got more votes. Can you grasp that concept?
Best and Gifted, I won't ask if y'all get it. I know you don't
I "get"that you have no idea how our electoral college works. Supposedly she got more votes, and although I think there's something fishy there, it doesn't matter. It was the electoral votes she needed, and she didn't get those. That is the way it has always been, and you would have expected Trump to accept the results. But now, in typical lefty fashion, you want to change the system to have it your way. Remember how the majority opposed Obamadon'tcare?
Go look. Notice who got the "bigger number" that counts.
this is the way I was taught. The bigger number means that person got more votes. - JT
Yep. At the end of the day, Trump will have the bigger number of EC votes. Count on it. Carrier does. 
http://www.foxnews.com/politic...jobs-in-indiana.html
I know how the electoral college works, my question is the allocation of electoral votes to the states. Both times, in my memory, when the popular vote majority and the electoral vote majority are different, the republican party benefits.
jtdavis posted:I know how the electoral college works, my question is the allocation of electoral votes to the states. Both times, in my memory, when the popular vote majority and the electoral vote majority are different, the republican party benefits.
That was in my 9th grade civics class. Each state receives the number of electors according to the number of their members in the House and Senate. Thus, at least three.
jtdavis posted:I know how the electoral college works, my question is the allocation of electoral votes to the states. Both times, in my memory, when the popular vote majority and the electoral vote majority are different, the republican party benefits.
If you knew how it worked you wouldn't still be whining about the "popular" vote.
Bestworking posted:Now look at her and the rest of the demoslops.
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Hillary Clinton, now a private citizen after conceding the election to Donald Trump, wants in on the recount effort Green Party nominee Jill Stein launched Friday, even though she previously called such a notion “horrifying.”
During the final debate between Clinton and Donald Trump last month in Las Vegas, Fox News Channel’s Chris Wallace asked Trump if he would honor the results of the election even if he lost.
“I will look at it at the time. I’m not looking at it now. What I’ve seen is so bad,” Trump responded.
Wallace pressed the question further, and Trump replied, “What I’m saying is I will tell you at the time.”
“I’ll keep you in suspense,” Trump said.
Clinton, apparently taken aback by Trump’s response to the matter, hit back “That’s horrifying.”
"Donald Trump refused to say that he’d respect the results of this election.
That’s a direct threat to our democracy".
She went on to say, “That’s not the way our democracy works. We’ve been around 240 years. We’ve had free and fair elections and we’ve accepted the outcomes when we may not have liked them and that is what must be expected of anyone standing on a debate stage during a general election. President Obama said the other day that when you’re whining before the game is even finished it just shows you’re not even up to doing the job. “
She added, “And let’s be clear about what he’s saying and what he means. He’s denigrating—he’s talking down our democracy. I for one am appalled that somebody who is the nominee of one of our major two parties would take that kind of position.”
Clinton was later asked by reporters about Trump’s statement at the debate and she said, “I truly doubt he has ever ready (sic) the Constitution.”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/11...video/#ixzz4RJzoiH00
Yes, now look at them.
Hillary conceded the election, and you know she wouldn't ever misstate anything.
uandurine posted:Hillary conceded the election, and you know she wouldn't ever misstate anything.
And, she didn't concede until she KNEW there was no hope for her. Now look at her.
That was in my 9th grade civics class. Each state receives the number of electors according to the number of their members in the House and Senate. Thus, at least three.
Why aren't the bigger populated states given more votes to more fairly represent the number of voters?
jtdavis posted:That was in my 9th grade civics class. Each state receives the number of electors according to the number of their members in the House and Senate. Thus, at least three.
Why aren't the bigger populated states given more votes to more fairly represent the number of voters?
Go back to school and tell them you didn't learn anything and to run you through again, and pay attention this time.
jtdavis posted:That was in my 9th grade civics class. Each state receives the number of electors according to the number of their members in the House and Senate. Thus, at least three.
Why aren't the bigger populated states given more votes to more fairly represent the number of voters?
Asked and answered.
jtdavis posted:That was in my 9th grade civics class. Each state receives the number of electors according to the number of their members in the House and Senate. Thus, at least three.
Why aren't the bigger populated states given more votes to more fairly represent the number of voters?
Did you flunk math reading problems? The state with the largest population -- California, has 55 electoral votes -- 53 for the 53 representatives in the House and two for their two senators. The states with the smallest populations, like Rhode Island have three electoral votes -- one for their single representative and two for their two senators.
Not a one of you can answer my question. Why aren't the larger states given the same representation as lower populated states.
jtdavis posted:Not a one of you can answer my question. Why aren't the larger states given the same representation as lower populated states.
Your question was answered in a couple of ways. If you fail to comprehend, its no one's fault but your own. As to the manner you stated the question this time, I'm sure that Rhode Island, Alaska, New Hampshire and Vermont would be fine with California limiting itself to 3 electoral votes like them, instead of 55.
jtdavis posted:Not a one of you can answer my question. Why aren't the larger states given the same representation as lower populated states.
Asked and answered.
Not one of you challenged my posted numbers, so I assume you think they are right. Will any of you tell me why it's fair for one California electoral vote to represent 678,945 people and one Wyoming electoral vote represents 189,433 people? Why should I not feel that is just another type of gerrymandering?
jtdavis posted:Not one of you challenged my posted numbers, so I assume you think they are right. Will any of you tell me why it's fair for one California electoral vote to represent 678,945 people and one Wyoming electoral vote represents 189,433 people? Why should I not feel that is just another type of gerrymandering?
Jt, your numbers are irrelevant; the electoral system is a known process and both candidates campaigned accordingly to the known rules of presidential elections. If the total number mattered then both candidates would have spent all their time in only the most populated states and the numbers would probably be much different. Republicans would have spent much more on get out the vote initiatives in California, New York, and Illinois that they usually cede to Dems and probably some of the 90 million people who didn't vote because they are overwhelmed in Dem states would have gone to the polls.
I would also note that the founders set up the system because they chose to create a republic and not a democracy because they feared that a democracy was a guaranteed crash and burn:
jtdavis posted:Not one of you challenged my posted numbers, so I assume you think they are right. Will any of you tell me why it's fair for one California electoral vote to represent 678,945 people and one Wyoming electoral vote represents 189,433 people? Why should I not feel that is just another type of gerrymandering?
You still don't understand the method of distribution. Two electors of each state represent the body of the state, not the population, just as two senators represent the body of the state. Therefore, using the 2010 census, California's population of 37,254,503 have 53 electors representing 702,915 each. While Wyoming's population of 563,767 have one elector representing 563,767. No gerrymandering, the same compromise between populous states and less populous states that make up both houses of Congress.
Does California have 53 or 55 electors. It don't matter. Does Wyoming have one elector or three?
A little more. In 5 elections, the popular vote majority has lost. In 1824, John Quincy Adams won over Andrew Jackson, they were of the same party. Adams was the son of a past president(note this). In 1876, Hayes, a republican, won over Tilden, a democrat. In 1888, Harrison, a republican, won over Cleveland, a democrat and sitting president. In 2000, Bush, a republican and son of a past president, won over Gore, a democrat. In 2016, Trump, a republican, won over Clinton, a democrat.
Every time except one, a republican was awarded the presidency over a democrat with a popular vote majority. There is a form of gerrymandering in the electoral college. It has been proven 4 out of 5 times.
jtdavis posted:Does California have 53 or 55 electors. It don't matter. Does Wyoming have one elector or three?
Read what I stated -- 53 + 2 = 55 and 2+1=3
LOL! So much for Jt's big claim that he will support the president. Dire, please no offense, but why do you waste your time? No matter what facts you tell or show him, Jt will still argue with you.
jtdavis posted:Does California have 53 or 55 electors. It don't matter. Does Wyoming have one elector or three?
You're right. 53 or 55. One or three. Don't matter. Trump wins.
Every time except one, a republican was awarded the presidency over a democrat with a popular vote majority. - JT
All but one!!!. How'd that get past us?
All played the same game by the same rules. Democrats have been in control of the executive and legislative branches plenty of times if they had wanted to change them.
But they didn't. So instead of conservatives, maybe you should ask your favorite Democrats "why." Shouldn't they be looking out for you? Apparently they don't care what you think or your fellow liberals would be blowing up this forum with legitimate complaints.
chirp. chirp.
giftedamateur posted:LOL! So much for Jt's big claim that he will support the president. Dire, please no offense, but why do you waste your time? No matter what facts you tell or show him, Jt will still argue with you.
It s rather like playing with a laser pointer and a cat. Facts are the laser and JT's the cat. He'll never really catch the facts. But, its amusing to see him try.
direstraits posted:jtdavis posted:Does California have 53 or 55 electors. It don't matter. Does Wyoming have one elector or three?
Read what I stated -- 53 + 2 = 55 and 2+1=3
Or what JT refers to as "new math."
Read what I stated -- 53 + 2 = 55 and 2+1=3
Dire and all you other mathematical geniuses, I did read what dire posted. How about y'all reading where he posted that California has 53 electors and in his example, he gave Wyoming 1. If you would care to go back to my post before that, I used 55 and 3
jtdavis posted:Read what I stated -- 53 + 2 = 55 and 2+1=3
Dire and all you other mathematical geniuses, I did read what dire posted. How about y'all reading where he posted that California has 53 electors and in his example, he gave Wyoming 1. If you would care to go back to my post before that, I used 55 and 3
JT missed the second sentence that explained the two electors per state:
"Two electors of each state represent the body of the state, not the population, just as two senators represent the body of the state."
I suppose that reading math problems wasn't one of JT's better skills. Like I said -- cat and laser.
direstraits posted:giftedamateur posted:LOL! So much for Jt's big claim that he will support the president. Dire, please no offense, but why do you waste your time? No matter what facts you tell or show him, Jt will still argue with you.
It s rather like playing with a laser pointer and a cat. Facts are the laser and JT's the cat. He'll never really catch the facts. But, its amusing to see him try.
He's dumb, and acts even dumber. He's smart enough to get it, but so dumb he thinks by pretending he doesn't he somehow "wins". Just like he keeps claiming Best asked about his taxes when he knows darn well she didn't do any such thing.
Go back and verify all the votes and get rid of the votes that the illegals, felons and dead people cast and Hillary would loose the popular vote also.
