I have a video if you want to see it.

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Originally posted by Brentenman:
Folks:

I have a video that MUST be seen by all, regardless of your political stripes.

This is what the MSM does NOT want you to know about. It concerns illegal aliens, extreme left wing radical groups, etc.

I can't post it because I know the Times Daily will delete it, hence why you must PM me for the link.

WARNING: it is raw, unedited, graphic, and in some spots violent. In some spots, the police are outnumbered and can do nothing.

I believe the majority of it was shot in California.

All need to see it, to see what potentially Russelville and other ares infested with illegal aliens could become.

did you forget to post the link to video?

I agree,something must be done!

No, I did not forget to post the link. I deliberately not included it as the Times Daily WILL remove it, as it is graphic, violent (shows riots, police beating people, etc), unedited language (no BLEEPS), etc.

I will PM it to you, PBA.

MORE:

I welcome all to comment on this video after you see it, regardless of what you feel or believe.

IMHO, California is a lost cause. Other states could become lost causes if the crap these radical groups and illegal aliens continue to do what they do, and the Federal Government (and some state governments) do nothing to stop it.

Additionally, I feel that our country is approaching ferment right now. Seeing this video, other videos, and what is transgressing in our country reminds me of when I read "The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire".

And, it is sad our country is heading the way of Banana Republic countries....or other countires overseas that have anarchy.

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Originally posted by Brentenman:
No, I did not forget to post the link. I deliberately not included it as the Times Daily WILL remove it, as it is graphic, violent (shows riots, police beating people, etc), unedited language (no BLEEPS), etc.

I will PM it to you, PBA.

yeah your right! thanks! pm it to me, as i would like to view it. and yes I'am over 18!

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Originally posted by pba:

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Originally posted by Brentenman:
No, I did not forget to post the link. I deliberately not included it as the Times Daily WILL remove it, as it is graphic, violent (shows riots, police beating people, etc), unedited language (no BLEEPS), etc.

I will PM it to you, PBA.

yeah your right! thanks! pm it to me, as i would like to view it. and yes I'am over 18!

Check your PM...and be sure to state your opinion on this thread.

SERIOUSLY folks, this video is a MUST for all to see. It will sober you up.

Some of the groups ID'ed on the video are:
Anarchist groups, illegal, no, Criminal, alien groups, communists, extreme left wing socialist groups, ACLU lawyers, schoolteachers (yes, radical schoolteachers), etc.

Thanks for link to the video! it was a eye opener for sure!

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Originally posted by pba:
Thanks for link to the video! it was a eye opener for sure!

10-4

I gotta go to the store and get some seafood for grilling. If others want the link, I have PM'ed it to Joy and PBA...

brentenman,

Please send me the link. Thanks.

DF

i would like to see it also

Ahh, you can't leave. I have questions. I'm kidding of course.

Brentenman, okay first of all, I would HATE to live there. Can you imagine living in that chaos? Surely it's not like that all the time & this was the day of a protest???

Also, I am confused. Why are the people filming so set on getting in the Mexicans' faces? At times, they seem antagonistic themselves.

Third, it was hard to get past the title & the racist slant of the ones filming this. If they are trying to open people's eyes to the problem, it would have been MUCH better to simply film it and let us judge for ourselves.

I sent you you both the link, Smurph & DF.

Thanks, Joy, got it.

DF

got it, thanks a bunch joy

okay I saw quite a bit of what joy stated,the guys filming were doing a bit of "in your face" type stuff.
and i did take notice to something else some of the mexicans had to say, they were in the southwest first. we(meaning white Europeans) intruded,and once again we took what we wanted,as we did from the native Americans.
truly i do not know the solution to the violence or the illegal immagrant issues. it is out of control by the present methods,that much I do know.
my mother and some other family of mine still live in Russellville. i am down there more frequently as mothers health gets worse.It is like driving into another world as compared to what it was when I grew up down there.It isn't "home" anymore.

send me the link too...please...

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Originally posted by _Joy_:
Ahh, you can't leave. I have questions. I'm kidding of course.

Brentenman, okay first of all, I would HATE to live there. Can you imagine living in that chaos? Surely it's not like that all the time & this was the day of a protest???

Also, I am confused. Why are the people filming so set on getting in the Mexicans' faces? At times, they seem antagonistic themselves.

Third, it was hard to get past the title & the racist slant of the ones filming this. If they are trying to open people's eyes to the problem, it would have been MUCH better to simply film it and let us judge for ourselves.

Joy, it is THAT bad in parts of the People's Republik of Kalifornia.

My uncle lives in Salinas. They are watched and followed everyday by criminal aliens. My cousin has been jumped not once but THREE times by these criminals in the past 18 months. The second jumping put him in the hospital with a knife blade stab wound behind his ear, 2 inches deep. The neurosurgeon was amazed he lived, and only lost his periphrial vision (he has some back but not 100%).

I keep hearing stuff from folks on gun chatbaords I freequent from folks caught behind the "iron curtain' over there....they want to leave, most of them at least. However, and my aunt and uncle are included in this, they have jobs, etc. why they can't leave. My other cousins (the sisters of the one stabbed) hate it there, but they know no better as they have never been outside PDRK for a length of time.

Keep in mind, Salinas is a largely agricultural area. Your strawberries, lettus, celery, vegetables in general come from there (heck, even my dad has picked lettuce there when he was a teenager in the late 50's/early 60's). As such, you have lots of criminal aliens there working.

Not all of cal is lost, log onto Modbee.com and check out their fourm. They talk about race in a way that would make the TD shudder.

Very unsettling stuff, Brent. All I can say is, "Gracias GoldKist!"

Sorry, Mott, I had to leave. Did someone send you the link already?

Man, that's bad, Brentenman. I'd stop at 'those poor people', but we're going to be those poor people ourselves. I am going to look up email addresses for all Congressmen & House members, email them the link, along with a piece of my mind. I also wonder if there is a petition already started that we could add our names to. If I find anything, I'll post it.

Joy, Immigration Watchdog has tons of info and links.

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Originally posted by _Joy_:
Sorry, Mott, I had to leave. Did someone send you the link already?

Man, that's bad, Brentenman. I'd stop at 'those poor people', but we're going to be those poor people ourselves. I am going to look up email addresses for all Congressmen & House members, email them the link, along with a piece of my mind. I also wonder if there is a petition already started that we could add our names to. If I find anything, I'll post it.

People on here laugh at me, they call me "crazy right wing nut", etc......You know who you are.

And when folks like me who have been discussing this for years, it makes us feel like Noah before the flood. Well, the flood is creeping upon us..and it will be bad, folks. Then, who will be laughing and calling us "nuts?" No one...because you will be busy trying to fend for yourselves like everyone else, me included, after the flood of goons, thuggies, criminals, etc. have taken over.

It makes my blood boil mass deportations are not going on. Our government, both D and R, are asleep at the wheel. It is shameful.

Yep, money is the root of all evil. And the businesses and gov'ts who hire/allow this to happen are ruining our country. There is a right way and a wrong way to conduct business, immigration, etc. It just seems today, total anarchy is the name of the game.

Those of you in/near Russelville, (i.e. Smurph) know fully well what I am talking about.

Please, send this video to all...THis is no joke. This video reminded me of the criminal alien rally in D.C. last April my family and I were caught up in after we left the Smithsonian. Many of the signs you see in the video were also at the criminal alien rally we got caught in. The sadest part was feeling like a foreigner in your own nation's capital.

Everyone on these message boards should watch that video. It is absolutly terrifying. There is no talking head twisting facts, there is no text to read, it's simply illegals and their supporters openly stating their feelings about America and those who want our laws enforced.

They have no argument as to why they should not be deported or prosecuted. The only thing they can say is "racist". I don't care if people from Sweden were coming over illegally, breaking our laws is breaking our laws and it needs to stop. What scares me more than the audacity of the invaders into our country is the ignorance and stupidity of our own countrymen supporting them. This issue is far more pressing than Iraq, "global warming", the deficiet, or anything else.

I'm going to have nightmares tonight.

Brenteman,
Will you please PM me the video link?
Thanks!
cwc

I am copying this resposne, verbatum, from the chatboard I got the video link from. This is one of the most well thought out responses to the video, and to criminal immigration in general, I have seen in some time:

California used to actually be a relatively conservative state until all the Mexicans showed up and caused it to turn into a socialist nanny state with their voting power.

Remember, this was the state that elected Reagan and Nixon as its governor.

Granted, there quite a few liberal white hippie types, but certainly not the majority.

Most Californians who live inland away from the coast are relatively conservative, by CA standards anyway.

California was a center-right state comparable to how PA or OH are now, until all the Mexicans arrived and turned the state Democratic.

According to the US census bureau, only about 45% of Californians are "white, non-hispanic."

So the liberals in CA overwhelmed native Californians who wouldn't vote for them with foreigners who would.

What important lesson can we draw from this?


What happened to CA will be the fate of ALL states, eventually, starting with the ones closest to Mexico, if we don't do something about immigration.


It's already happening with NM, AZ, TX and FL.

New Mexico is probably 10 or so years away from becoming a California clone, and if current trends keep up, Texas, Florida, Colorado, and Arizona aren't far behind.

Within 20-25 years, maybe less, if current trends continue, Florida, Arizona and Texas will be look like CA does today, and will become Dem states.

And states like Georgia and North Carolina will look like Florida or Texas or Arizona does today.

And the more Latino voters there are, in each state and in the US as a whole, the more impossible it becomes to stop or limit immigration. Once they have their foot in the door, you can't stop even more from coming in.

People need to realize how deadly serious the immigration problem is.

If we don't want our entire nation, including states far from Mexico like MT, to be turned into a 3rd world country just like Mexico, we MUST do something about immigration.

Don't think that just because you live in a state far from Mexico you will not be affected.

Once all the work is taken in states near Mexico, and once there are already lots of Mexicans in a state, they will look to other states for work.

States like GA, NC, and even Idaho and Washington are experiencing vast influxes of illegals.

Unless we want the USA as we know it to disappear forever, we MUST act NOW.

This will make you feel better, Brentenman & everyone. Google "petition to stop illegal immigration". We aren't the only ones appalled at our government's apathy on this. I think I'll sign them all!

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Originally posted by FatNoMo:
Joy, Immigration Watchdog has tons of info and links.

Thanks, FatNoMo. I'll check that out.

Hey, I dont recall Nixon being gov of California?
As far as Cal being liberal, they will never change with senators Boxer & Feinstein in office.

Bman, i think your beating the war drum, this is not common everyday stuff that goes on. As far as your uncle being followed everyday? c'mon, I'm not calling you a liar but maybe you embellish?? I lived my entire life less than 100 miles from Salinas, yes there are a whole of Mexicans there and alot of em bad people but I'm not buying this bill of sale, you my friend have not spent much time outside of your comfort zone.
I can say this for sure, if it werent for the Mexicans California would not be able to feed the world with the fruits of it land, I grew up there and just like here in Alabama, there are jobs the white boys just wont do!
I work in management, and I have to say that five good Mexicans are worth ten white boys when it comes to grunt work, send me all ya got!!

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Originally posted by Mr Knowitall:
Hey, I dont recall Nixon being gov of California?
As far as Cal being liberal, they will never change with senators Boxer & Feinstein in office.

Yeah...the author made a mistake there.

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Originally posted by Mr Knowitall:
Bman, i think your beating the war drum, this is not common everyday stuff that goes on. As far as your uncle being followed everyday? c'mon, I'm not calling you a liar but maybe you embellish?? I lived my entire life less than 100 miles from Salinas, yes there are a whole of Mexicans there and alot of em bad people but I'm not buying this bill of sale, you my friend have not spent much time outside of your comfort zone.
I can say this for sure, if it werent for the Mexicans California would not be able to feed the world with the fruits of it land, I grew up there and just like here in Alabama, there are jobs the white boys just wont do!
I work in management, and I have to say that five good Mexicans are worth ten white boys when it comes to grunt work, send me all ya got!!

My uncle's words, not mine. He is a very honest, just, Christain man with a non-violent temperment. I belive him. He said it was especially bad after his son was stabbed in the back of the head.

As far as "beating a war drum", no. I am not, but sounding alarms, which need sounding. If anyone is beating a "war drum" it is the illegals. They have stated numerous times the desire for Aztlan....the SW USA to be in their hands alone. See the video again to see who is "beating the war drum."

When did you move? Last I was in Salinas was 1999, twice, to the funerals of my grandparents, and it didn't seem that bad, but again, my uncle's words, not mine, it is getting bad and worse.

A double-shot of Xenophobia, on the rocks.

e & Mr Knowitall, you don't think illegal immigration is a problem in our country?

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A double-shot of Xenophobia, on the rocks.

This has nothing to do with xenophobia, this has to do with people coming here illegally. Sure there are people who are coming over because they just want a better life, but there are also plenty of people like the ones in the video who are coming in this country too. Remember the TN state trooper who was shot and killed by a couple of illegals a few months ago? Ask yourself this, if our immigration laws were upheld and our borders protected, would his wife still have him with her today?

It has nothing to do with what country they are from or what race they are, so the racism and xenophobia cards don't work. I'm not beating a war drum here, this is happening every day and is getting worse. If you don't believe me, come up to Nashville and I'll take you down Nolensville Road.

As far as I'm concerned, their reasons do not matter. If you break the law, enter illegally, you should be sent back & told to enter legally or not at all...obey this law. It is totally illogical to say that they should get away with breaking the law because they are not citizens or because they have a sad story. I understand WHY many of them come here & don't fault them for the WHY, but I do fault them for the HOW - entering illegally.

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As far as I'm concerned, their reasons do not matter. If you break the law, enter illegally, you should be sent back & told to enter legally or not at all...obey this law. It is totally illogical to say that they should get away with breaking the law because they are not citizens or because they have a sad story. I understand WHY many of them come here & don't fault them for the WHY, but I do fault them for the HOW - entering illegally.

I agree, maybe I didn't word my post correctly, the coffee hasn't kicked in yet. Immigration laws are in place for a reason, if we chose to ignore them for the sake of cheap labor, our country is in serious trouble.

Could someone PM me the link please?

I would like the link too, please.

I would love to see the link... PM me please?

Mr. Knowitall wrote:

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I work in management, and I have to say that five good Mexicans are worth ten white boys when it comes to grunt work, send me all ya got!!

As in, say, digging a ditch? Give me one american with a backhoe instead.

Knowitall's attitude is precisely the problem. Most illegal aliens are hired not by big corporations, but by small companies and individuals.

And, Americans won't do stoop labor in farm fields. Why should we? It doesn't pay much; you can earn as much or more sitting on your duff watching soaps.

But, Americans will drive fork lifts, Americans will build houses, Americans will cook in restaurant kitchens, Americans will repair your car. Just not for the wages illegals will accept.

See, knowitall will hire his five Mexicans for $75/day and make money. So far, so good. In the meantime, their kids are in public schools which must resemble Mars to them, the older kids are in jail, and the moms are sitting in the Emergency Rooms with the babies. And the men with the $75 aren't paying for any of that.

No society can last long that way.

We must take every effort to end illegal immigration to America. Militarize the borders. Deport illegals who have any contact with law enforement. Arrest and jail employers who hire them, but establish a government clearing house to check immigration status first, for the employers' protection. Make second and subsequent illegal immigration offenses punishable by prison, and do it.

California is a lost cause. Don't let it happen to you.

DF

I sent all three of you the link.