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Hi to all my Forum Friends,

In a recent TimesDaily Religion Forum discussion titled "Death Bed Conversion Traditional Catholic" begun by a Roman Catholic Friend who had copy/pasted a statement from a recent Roman Catholic church bulletin which makes the claim that my Friend, Anthony "Tony" Pezzotta, who recently passed away -- had a death bed conversion BACK INTO Roman Catholicism. 

If you recall, I have written about Father Anthony Pezzotta, who was educated in Roman Catholic seminaries in England, Germany, Spain, and Rome, and served as Director of Roman Catholic Schools and Seminaries, as well as a Rector of Local Salesian Communities, in Manila for ten years before leaving Roman Catholicism.

 

His testimony was included in the book "Far From Rome, Near To God" and he published his own book "Truth Encounter,  Catholicism and the Holy Scripture."   These are two books I have highly recommended to both my Roman Catholic and Protestant Friends.

Today, my Roman Catholic Forum Friend copy/pasted from that recent church bulletin from the Roman Catholic church in Littleton, Colorado.  In it, he found this announcement:   http://www.olmcfssp.org/cms/im...s/OLMC_3.30_.14_.pdf

 

- A kind and zealous lady who works at Cherreyln Nursing home called me on Wednesday afternoon asking if I could come over to give extreme unction to an old gentleman who was dying and had requested it.  She said he had been out of the Church for a long time, and might be more familiar with the traditional rite than the new one.  Right before I anointed him she mentioned that he was a priest who had married a Filipino lady outside the Church, and became a Baptist missionary to the Philippines.  He was ordained for the Salesians in 1961, and apostatized in 1974, then studied here in town at Denver seminary.  He has published many books against the Catholic Faith and is rather famous. At the 11th hour he returned.  Do pray for him.  His books are distorted and false, and will continue to do damage long after his death.

 

It is sad that a man who wears the robes of a priest in this church would have written, or blessed, that statement to be included in their official church bulletin.  Tony Pezzotta could not have consciously requested a priest come and attend to him -- for Tony has been suffering from an Alzheimer's type disease for several years.  That is why he and his wife, Zita, were in Denver, living with their son.  

If this lady at the nursing home did ask a priest to come -- it was to an unknowing Tony Pezzotta -- and was unknown to his family.  Could an over-zealous Roman Catholic lady in the nursing home have made this mistake?  I suppose she could have; but, it would have been against the wishes of Tony or his family, and done without their knowledge.  I do know that Tony's daughter, Marie, checked out this nursing home thoroughly before they admitted him.  And, she found that it fit their needs in respect to their Christian faith.  But, as with any organization, a lone over-zealous person could have slipped through the crack.

If this is, in fact, true -- then the Pezzotta family should consider sue the nursing home for allowing that to happen without the conscious knowledge and consent of Tony Pezzotta or his family.   I hope that, when they read this, they will consider taking that action.

Looking at this church bulletin statement, the first part, that a misguided lady in the nursing home could have called the priest, I can believe that could have happened.  However, when the priest ends his statement by declaring about Tony Pezzotta, "His books are distorted and false, and will continue to do damage long after his death" -- I have to question ALL that this man might write.  

It is one thing to believe that the writings of another are false and distorted, and possibly to even share that thinking orally among contemporaries.  But, to put that into writing -- in a church bulletin -- without offering any proof, makes me question all that this man would write or say. 

In the Religion Forum discussion "Death Bed Conversion Traditional Catholic"  I tell my Forum Friend:

 

We know that the real reason for the priestly exodus from Roman Catholicism (written about in the book "Far From Rome, Near To God") -- is the erroneous teachings and doctrines which undergird that church.  As Jesus Christ taught, the house that is built upon the sand -- is washed away by the Truth of the Bible.

 

And, my Roman Catholic Forum Friend asks me, "So where in the Bible is this talk of sand..?   Matt 7:26 tells me you're the fool."  

 

I will allow Jesus Christ Himself to answer his question:

 

Matthew 7:24-25, "Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them, may be compared to a wise man who built his house on the rock.  And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and yet it did not fall, for it had been founded on the rock.

Matthew 7:26-27, "Everyone who hears these words of Mine and does not act on them, will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand.  The rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and slammed against that house; and it fell -- and great was its fall."

 

My Friend, I believe that Roman Catholicism is built upon sand because it depends upon resources outside the Bible to give it credence and credibility.   A church, i.e., a fellowship of local believers, and its theology MUST be built solely upon the Written Word of God, the Bible.  If it requires any proof outside the Bible -- to that degree it is built upon sand.

If any church cannot stand upon God's Written Word alone, if it needs other books, writings, and man-made traditions and rituals to survive -- then its foundation is built upon sand.

Then, he continues, "
Remember, you told me,
'Yes, I lied.  But because I couldn't afford to be wrong.'   You can do your little "show me" dance all you want and it doesn't matter.  What matters is (that) you realize God overheard all of it."

 

My Friend, Please show all of us where I wrote that.   When you make false statements such as that, your actions are just as I suggested above regarding the priest.  When he, in his church bulletin statement said of Tony Pezzotta, "His books are distorted and false, and will continue to do damage long after his death" -- all credibility is lost. 

 

Why?  Through his making such a statement without offering any peer-provided proof.   And, you, my Friend, when you make up such things, then claim that I, or another person, have written this eruption from your confused mind, you have lost all credibility.

 

Then, my Friend rambles on, "Christ created my Christian Church and taught my Christian beliefs before the Bible was written."

 

What we commonly refer to as the Bible, God's Written Word, first began to be written by Moses.  You know, the guy who, under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit wrote the first five books of the Bible.  After that, various other men chosen and inspired by God continued to write the other 34 books of the Old Testament.

 

THEN, Jesus Christ, God Incarnate, came to bring us from under the Law and into His Grace. 

 

My Forum Friend continues, "The Church was built on those teachings in compliance with the Bible.   The Church is the word of God, the Bible is the hard copy.  That's why there's only one Church, one word of God.  One Bible, one meaning.  Disprove that and you can be god."

 

My simple Friend, the"church" is the worldwide body of believers.  It is not an organization; it is not a building; and it most certainly is not the Vatican, nor any of its inhabitants.

There truly is only one "church" -- the body of Christ, His followers worldwide who will be Raptured into heaven when He comes for us.  And, considering the unthinking rhetoric such as you have offered -- that cannot come too soon.

My Friend, in English it is "Word" and in Greek it is "Logos."   Check in your Bible concordance for the word "logos" and you will find it used two ways -- as the Written Word of God, the Bible -- and as the Living Word of God, Jesus Christ.  Let me share with you from a Bible Study Guide I wrote a few years ago:

 

In John 1:1, the apostle John is declaring the deity of Jesus Christ beyond any doubt.  The New Testament was written in the Greek language and John, seeking the most powerful way to describe Jesus chose the Greek word “logos.”  The Greek word logos doesn’t mean just a written word --- it means a dynamic, active, living word. 

●  “In the beginning was the Word . . .”  (en archē ēn ho logos).    In the “beginning” of what?   “In the beginning” refers to the creation.  This is saying that, at the creation of our universe and our world, the Word (Logos), Jesus Christ, already existed.  It is saying that He already was when the world was created; it is saying that He is eternal, therefore He is God. 

In the Septuagint, which is the Old Testament translated from Hebrew and Aramaic into the Greek language (about 300 BC), the verse Genesis 1:1, “In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth” also uses the same Greek phrase “en archē” to write “in the beginning.”

●  “. . . and the Word was with God . . .” (kai ho logos ēn pros theon).   Jesus was with God the Father throughout eternity.  The Greek phrase for “with God” is “pros theos” and this wording in the Greek language implies an equality, a close association.  In other words, God the Son, Jesus, and God the Father are equal in deity, equal in divinity, equal in Godly attributes -- and They are very close.  They, with the Holy Spirit, are the Godhead.  Jesus was with God the Father throughout eternity; He was and is eternally God the Son.

This also tells us that Jesus Christ, the Word (Logos), the Son of God, is a separate and distinct being from God the Father, yet one with Him in the Godhead.   Elohim, the triune God, created the heavens and the earth.  Elohim is plural for El, the Hebrew name for God.  Elohim is plural in nature, signifying the Trinity -- yet, it is used in the Bible in the singular nature.  In other words, it is used with a singular verb or adjective (“Bill has” is singular; “they have” is plural).  This is telling us that there is ONE God (singular), comprised of THREE distinct, different persons (plural).  

God the Father laid the plans, He was the architect (Genesis 1:1); God the Son was the mediator, He was the contractor (John 1:3); and God the Holy Spirit executed the divine plans, He was the builder (Genesis 1:2).  Each one separate and distinct, yet each one an integral part of the Godhead.

 

Genesis 1:1:    ”In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.  The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.”

 

●  “. . . and the Word was God.”  (kai theos ēn ho logos).   This phrase leaves no doubt that Jesus Christ is deity, He is God!  In the Greek language this phrase is literally saying, “and God was the Word” -- theos (God) ēn (was) ho (the) logos (Word) --- God was the Word!

 

So, no, my Friend, "The Church is NOT the word of God."    The "church" is the worldwide body of believers who have put their faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ (John 19:30), in His resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:4) and His ascension back into heaven (Acts 1:9) to be our one and only Mediator between God and man (1 Timothy 2:5). 

And we have faith in our Blessed Hope, knowing that He WILL come again to Rapture His church out of this world (Acts 1:11, John 14:1-3) -- and that at His Second Coming in Glory to establish His Millennial Kingdom on earth (Revelation 19:11ff) -- we, the church, His Bride, will return with Him.  Praise God for this Blessed Hope which all Christian believers can claim.

My Friend, I pray that I have sufficiently corrected your misconceptions -- and that you can move forward through putting your faith in the true Word of God, both Living and Written.

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

Bible Inspired By God

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Strange silence!

 

Earlier, when Vic thought he had a church bulletin showing how a priest had converted Tony Pezzotta back into Roman Catholicism -- my Friend, Vic, was eager to share it.

 

But, once I have shown that the statement was either in error -- or that the kind woman and the priest she called were taking advantage of a man who was too ill to even know the time of day -- Vic's silence is deafening.

 

Yet, I suppose when one is caught with "foot in mouth" -- it is easier to just silently slink away.

 

Just to share additional info, Tony's daughter, Marie, is back in Denver for his service.  She and her husband are Protestant missionaries in Costa Rica and she came home to say this final goodbye to her dad -- until they all have a Family & Friends Reunion in heaven.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

 

Matthew 25-21 - Peace With God

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Strange silence!

 

Earlier, when Vic thought he had a church bulletin showing how a priest had converted Tony Pezzotta back into Roman Catholicism -- my Friend, Vic, was eager to share it.

 

But, once I have shown that the statement was either in error -- or that the kind woman and the priest she called were taking advantage of a man who was too ill to even know the time of day -- Vic's silence is deafening.

 

Yet, I suppose when one is caught with "foot in mouth" -- it is easier to just silently slink away.

 

Just to share additional info, Tony's daughter, Marie, is back in Denver for his service.  She and her husband are Protestant missionaries in Costa Rica and she came home to say this final goodbye to her dad -- until they all have a Family & Friends Reunion in heaven.

 

I step out of the house for a while for things to be done and the Cowardly

excuse of a sub human piece of crap took a few stabs in the back.

Your cold dead heretic of a roll model ask for a priest when he felt close

to death. He seems to be as big a coward as you. Although he's a liar

I don't think he can touch your satanic mouth. And his books are still

refuted, found to be wrong and even ignored by most of your idiots. 

 

Here's some of what was said;

 

What these Protestant and Evangelical leaders thought to be gold turned out to be garbage. When Filipino Catholic apologists exposed this “scholar” and “expert’s” factual, historical, theological and Biblical errorsEvangelical apologists in the Philippines conveniently dropped Dr. Anthony Pezzotta like hot potato. What an embarrassment Dr. Pezzotta has become to Evangelical apologists!
 
The foremost aggrupation of Evangelical apologists in the Philippines is the Bereans Apologetics and Research Ministry (the BARM).
 
 After I came out with my refutation of Chapter 11 of Dr. Pezzotta’s Truth Encounter, Filipino Catholic apologists challenged Berean apologists in their forum. None of them put up a defense of Dr. Anthony Pezzotta and his book, which Rev. Butch Conde equates with“the truth, the only truth and the Bible truth.” Poor, poor Anthony Pezzotta. None of his brothers in the Bereans took up his cudgels. They dropped him like a dung!
 
But don't you drop him billie-scat, you look right with dung on your face.
 

 

Hi all,

 

It is so sad to see a person whose only defense of his religion -- is to sink to no-class, gutter-talk to denigrate others, especially those who have passed away. 

 

I KNOW that this is person is not typical of Roman Catholics.  I have many Friends and Family who are Roman Catholic, and even though I disagree with their church's teachings, they do not wallow in the sewer when defending their faith -- as this person consistently does on the forum.

 

His life must truly be sad -- when his only way of life is to denigrate, defame, and trash-talk everyone who disagrees with him.  And, those who would defend him -- are placing themselves on that same lowest plane of existence.

 

Sincerely, I ask all my Christian Friends to pray for Vic, that our Lord will wash both his mouth and his heart.   Remember, NO ONE, not even Vic, has sunk so low that God cannot reach him.

 

And, also pray for those who will use this in a twisted way -- to defend him.

 

Thank you and God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

Matthew 19-26 - All Things Possible

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Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Strange silence!

 

Earlier, when Vic thought he had a church bulletin showing how a priest had converted Tony Pezzotta back into Roman Catholicism -- my Friend, Vic, was eager to share it.

 

But, once I have shown that the statement was either in error -- or that the kind woman and the priest she called were taking advantage of a man who was too ill to even know the time of day -- Vic's silence is deafening.

 

Yet, I suppose when one is caught with "foot in mouth" -- it is easier to just silently slink away.

 

Just to share additional info, Tony's daughter, Marie, is back in Denver for his service.  She and her husband are Protestant missionaries in Costa Rica and she came home to say this final goodbye to her dad -- until they all have a Family & Friends Reunion in heaven.

 

I step out of the house for a while for things to be done and the Cowardly

excuse of a sub human piece of crap took a few stabs in the back.

Your cold dead heretic of a roll model ask for a priest when he felt close

to death. He seems to be as big a coward as you. Although he's a liar

I don't think he can touch your satanic mouth. And his books are still

refuted, found to be wrong and even ignored by most of your idiots. 

 

Here's some of what was said;

 

What these Protestant and Evangelical leaders thought to be gold turned out to be garbage. When Filipino Catholic apologists exposed this “scholar” and “expert’s” factual, historical, theological and Biblical errorsEvangelical apologists in the Philippines conveniently dropped Dr. Anthony Pezzotta like hot potato. What an embarrassment Dr. Pezzotta has become to Evangelical apologists!
 
The foremost aggrupation of Evangelical apologists in the Philippines is the Bereans Apologetics and Research Ministry (the BARM).
 
 After I came out with my refutation of Chapter 11 of Dr. Pezzotta’s Truth Encounter, Filipino Catholic apologists challenged Berean apologists in their forum. None of them put up a defense of Dr. Anthony Pezzotta and his book, which Rev. Butch Conde equates with“the truth, the only truth and the Bible truth.” Poor, poor Anthony Pezzotta. None of his brothers in the Bereans took up his cudgels. They dropped him like a dung!
 
But don't you drop him billie-scat, you look right with dung on your face.
 
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There's more to be said about the Last Rites and last days of your
phony mentor. Any questions about his erroneous books. The nursing
home said he (tony pezzotta) asked for a catholic priest, anything more
than that is really none of our business. But whatever you want to do.
 
You, for unknown reasons kept posting lies you try to hide with
silly accusations. So knowing that, also know what I say to you, you bring
on to yourself. I'm more than grateful and happy to accommodate
 

 

 

Vic, my Friend,

 

I will give you credit.  You do keep trying, even when you have egg on your face.

 

You tell me, "The nursing home said he (tony pezzotta) asked for a catholic priest,"

 

How could a man, suffering from Alzheimer's Disease -- ask for a priest? 

 

I have another good friend here in my neighborhood who has Alzheimer's and we held Wednesday Bible study in their home, at the request of his wife.  When we were in their home, he was like a small child, not knowing anyone or even where he was.  This friend, Tom, might ask for the moon -- but, the only thing which elicits a response from him is a hug.

 

So, there is NO WAY that Tony Pezzotta could have asked for a priest to give him Last Rites - or Ice Cream.  Keep in mind that he died of Alzheimer's Disease -- as in, totally out of it.

 

As I said, a well meaning, over zealous Roman Catholic lady working in the nursing home might have called a priest.  But, I can assure you that Tony Pezzotta DID NOT ask for one.

 

NOR DID HIS FAMILY!   And, as I said earlier, if that did happen -- I would not blame the Pezzotta family if they sued the nursing home and the over zealous woman.

 

And, if I were them, I would consider suing the Roman Catholic parish and the priest for publishing that in their official church bulletin WITHOUT consulting with the Pezzotta family first.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Vic, my Friend,

 

I will give you credit.  You do keep trying, even when you have egg on your face.

 

You tell me, "The nursing home said he (tony pezzotta) asked for a catholic priest,"

 

How could a man, suffering from Alzheimer's Disease -- ask for a priest? 

 

I have another good friend here in my neighborhood who has Alzheimer's and we held Wednesday Bible study in their home, at the request of his wife.  When we were in their home, he was like a small child, not knowing anyone or even where he was.  This friend, Tom, might ask for the moon -- but, the only thing which elicits a response from him is a hug.

 

So, there is NO WAY that Tony Pezzotta could have asked for a priest to give him Last Rites - or Ice Cream.  Keep in mind that he died of Alzheimer's Disease -- as in, totally out of it.

 

As I said, a well meaning, over zealous Roman Catholic lady working in the nursing home might have called a priest.  But, I can assure you that Tony Pezzotta DID NOT ask for one.

 

NOR DID HIS FAMILY!   And, as I said earlier, if that did happen -- I would not blame the Pezzotta family if they sued the nursing home and the over zealous woman.

 

And, if I were them, I would consider suing the Roman Catholic parish and the priest for publishing that in their official church bulletin WITHOUT consulting with the Pezzotta family first.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

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Mr. Gray, you may claim to be an expert on the Bible, and all things religion, and God's gift we mere humans.... However, an expert on Alzheimer's Disease you are not!!! It would appear that you are not even familiar with the condition! You cite one event when you witnessed someone with Alzheimer's... Is that the only time you have ever been around someone with Alzheimer's? Trust me, it is not contagious and patients with Alzheimer's need spiritual experience as much, if not more so, than people you consider normal...  Try it occasionally... It may even help you understand the real world... Of course you may consider someone with Alzheimer's unclean... That's okay Billie, we understand...

 

I have witnessed nearly 100 cases of the disease and I can tell you that a person diagnosed with Alzheimer's doesn't immediately go into a catatonic state. And once dimentia sets in, a patient can appear to be totally unaware of his surroundings one moment and totally lucid the next... A person doesn't die of Alzheimer's! The disease attacks the brain diminishing it's ability to control various organs. This causes the organs to shut down... The patient may die of heart failure, stroke, kidney failure, or the failure of any number of other organs/functions... 

 

By way of explanation, I lost my wife four years ago... A routine chest x-ray showed a shadow which, upon further examination, showed Stage 5 cancer... She underwent one chemo treatment, was admitted to the hospital a week later with pneumonia, and died 4 days later... The death certificate listed the cause of death as heart failure... Now we all know that it was the cancer that caused her death... And one would guess that the immediate cause was pneumonia... But her heart stopped working and that was the cause of death... This is why I pointed out that rarely, if ever, is Alzheimer's the cause of death....

 

Learn something about the subject you are talking about before engaging your keyboard lest you appear to be even more of an idiot than you are...

 

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

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As I said, a well meaning, over zealous Roman Catholic lady working in the nursing home might have called a priest.  

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I would not blame the Pezzotta family if they sued the nursing home and the over zealous woman.

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So while you admit said "over zealous Roman Catholic lady" might have been "well meaning," your suggested course of action would be to sue her?

 

How typical of your mindset...keep the government out of our lives but use the court system to bleed those common folks who likely can't afford a decent defense... After all, they're just Catholic...

 

So sad....

 

 

 

Originally Posted by Dove of Peace:
By way of explanation, I lost my wife four years ago... A routine chest x-ray showed a shadow which, upon further examination, showed Stage 5 cancer... She underwent one chemo treatment, was admitted to the hospital a week later with pneumonia, and died 4 days later... The death certificate listed the cause of death as heart failure... Now we all know that it was the cancer that caused her death... And one would guess that the immediate cause was pneumonia... But her heart stopped working and that was the cause of death... This is why I pointed out that rarely, if ever, is Alzheimer's the cause of death....

Learn something about the subject you are talking about before engaging your keyboard lest you appear to be even more of an idiot than you are...

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Dove, I am so sorry for the loss of your wife.

Don't pay any attention to the negativity you will get from Bill. You have to consider the source since he belongs to Satan & is working on his behalf. 

Hi Dove,

 

Like Chick, I am sorry that you lost your wife.  I pray that you have found closure in this last four years.

 

That said, nowhere in any of my posts have I indicated, even in the slightest, that a person with Alzheimer's is contagious or in any way, to be avoided.   Yes, I have been around Alzheimer's cases far too often.  And, I have seen what it can do to the patient and to the family.  It is devastating for the family.  As I said of the friend where we held Bible studies -- he responded when we hugged him; but, he did not have any idea where he was and what was happening.  It breaks my heart to see him like that.   Before he became ill, he was a very intelligent man; one whom I enjoyed having in Bible study.

 

But, I still say that a person who has had Alzheimer's for several years -- does not have the presence of mind to ask that a priest, pastor, or anyone else visit him.  Yes, I do believe the lady in the nursing home did what she thought was best -- but, she was wrong.   If this did happen, and I still see it as a big IF -- she should have consulted with the family BEFORE asking a priest to visit.

 

In that respect, IF that really happened, she was very wrong -- and her actions do leave her and the nursing home vulnerable to a law suit.  I doubt the Pezzotta family will pursue that avenue -- but, they do have a clear right to do so.

 

I pray that I have cleared up your misconception -- even if it was birthed from spite and not facts.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

quote:  Originally Posted by CrustyMac:

I'll ask again, Bill, just to be sure I understand:  You believe the Pezzotta family should sue someone because a priest was called in?

Crusty, my Friend,

 

You sure do love to dance.  No, I do not believe they should sue.  However, what I have stated is -- that if what is written in the church bulletin is true (and I have my doubts) -- then, the family most certainly has the grounds for a law suit.

 

Will they do it?   I would say no, for they are a good Christian.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

 

Far From Rome, Near To God - BOTH

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Originally Posted by Crash.Override:

its become apparent, in the last few months, bill has grown more belligerent and insulting. his bigoted hypocritical comments are way over the line, in most cases. am i the only one seeing this behavior?

Crash you see more than most because you're part of the spiderman

family having about 8 eyes. But I do see a mentally unstable habitual

pathological liar that will say/do anything to keep from being caught in

the many lies he tells. Of course he's out of control when questioned.

 

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Hi all,

 

Don't you just love it!   How the Outhouse Gang seldom has anything intelligent to post (that is a difficult task when one cannot write two coherent sentences) -- so they just blurt out whatever outhouse thought that comes to mind.  It would be comical -- it if were not so sad.

 

Bless their little outhouse hearts!

 

Bill

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<much verbal garbage snipped>

 

But, I still say that a person who has had Alzheimer's for several years -- does not have the presence of mind to ask that a priest, pastor, or anyone else visit him. 

 

<much verbal garbage snipped>

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So Billy boy, you are saying that our All Powerful God is incapable of restoring the mental capacity of a man on his death bed and leading him to revert to Catholicism?

 

Oh ye of little faith!

 

 

Originally Posted by Dove of Peace:
Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

<much verbal garbage snipped>

 

But, I still say that a person who has had Alzheimer's for several years -- does not have the presence of mind to ask that a priest, pastor, or anyone else visit him. 

 

<much verbal garbage snipped>

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So Billy boy, you are saying that our All Powerful God is incapable of restoring the mental capacity of a man on his death bed and leading him to revert to Catholicism?

 

Oh ye of little faith!

 

 

 

Leaving religion and everything else out of it, it happens all the time.

People come back to their senses if not but for a few hours.

And if it does happen it's right before death.

 

 

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:
quote:  Originally Posted by CrustyMac:

I'll ask again, Bill, just to be sure I understand:  You believe the Pezzotta family should sue someone because a priest was called in?

Crusty, my Friend,

 

You sure do love to dance.  No, I do not believe they should sue.  However, what I have stated is -- that if what is written in the church bulletin is true (and I have my doubts) -- then, the family most certainly has the grounds for a law suit.

 

Will they do it?   I would say no, for they are a good Christian.

 

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

 

Bill

 

 

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How am I dancing?  Asking for clarification is dancing?

 

You say: " I would not blame the Pezzotta family if they sued the nursing home and the over zealous woman."

 

On what grounds should they sue? 

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Dove, my Friend,

 

WHY would our loving God lead a person to revert back into a false religion?  Especially after he has truly found Christ and been born again?

 

Maybe your god would -- but, my God would not!

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First,  I have told you more than a dozen times I am NOT your friend!!! Please stop referring to me as such, just to impress your puppets! Thank you!!!

 

Now to the matter at hand:

 

Do you believe that you, little ole' ignorant you, who was educated in a school system that consistently rates last or close to last on every national survey of public education systems (I mention this because you aver that Northern school systems are inferior when, in fact, they are far superior to those of the South), believe you and only you know God's intent, beyond reasonable doubt? Golly, that sentence was proportionately almost as long as your normal dissertations...

NOTE: Before responding to this question with your "I know it all!" i suggest that you consider the fact that my graduate degree is in education...

 

Are you certain that Catholicism is considered by God to be a false, non-Christian religion?

 

Are you certain, beyond a doubt, that God did not restore this man's death bed mental state to be as lucid as yours is at this moment?

 

Are you certain that once in a lucid state he did not ask for a priest?

 

These questions require only a single "Yes" or "No" answer... No dissertations or verbal garbage please...

 

In closing, I might be glad that, as you implied, my God is not the same as your god... I'm not sure who you worship - God, Satan, or yourself...

 

 

 

Dove, my Friend,

 

You tell me, "NOTE: Before responding to this question with your "I know it all!" i suggest that you consider the fact that my graduate degree is in education..."

 

Too bad you never took an English Lit or Creative Writing class to go with that graduate degree.   Maybe you are from the generation where they graded on the curve and passed everyone.

 

But, it is not too late.  You can still go back and learn to write.   Just a thought!

 

Bless your little graduate degree heart!

 

Bill

Originally Posted by Bill Gray:

Dove, my Friend,

 

You tell me, "NOTE: Before responding to this question with your "I know it all!" i suggest that you consider the fact that my graduate degree is in education..."

 

Too bad you never took an English Lit or Creative Writing class to go with that graduate degree.   Maybe you are from the generation where they graded on the curve and passed everyone.

 

But, it is not too late.  You can still go back and learn to write.   Just a thought!

 

Bless your little graduate degree heart!

 

Bill

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So you are unable to answer a simple yes/no question....

Sad...

 

 

Bill's delusion that he is some kind of brilliant author makes me laugh out loud. 

 

The first thing that one learns in English Lit or Creative Writing is that your writing should be a like a dress: long enough to cover the topic, yet short enough to keep it interesting.  Bill has no idea how to do this.  Instead he relies on bad analogies, long-winded, boring, rambling posts that are often off topic, usually fallacious, and frequently cite sources he doesn't comprehend and are counter to his argument.

 

He talks about "dialoguing" with others, but what he really means is that he will lecture you and point out what he believes are the errors in your understanding.  If you prove him wrong, or even just ask a question that gives him trouble, he digresses to name calling and derision while simultaneously accusing you of the same. 

 

If you point any of this out to him, he pretends not to see any of it and ends his post with "bless your heart, have a blessed day" and an asinine picture.

 

In short, Bill is a hypocrite, a phony "Christian", and a diagnosed narcissist. 

 

Originally Posted by CrustyMac:

Bill's delusion that he is some kind of brilliant author makes me laugh out loud. 

 

The first thing that one learns in English Lit or Creative Writing is that your writing should be a like a dress: long enough to cover the topic, yet short enough to keep it interesting.  Bill has no idea how to do this.  Instead he relies on bad analogies, long-winded, boring, rambling posts that are often off topic, usually fallacious, and frequently cite sources he doesn't comprehend and are counter to his argument.

 

He talks about "dialoguing" with others, but what he really means is that he will lecture you and point out what he believes are the errors in your understanding.  If you prove him wrong, or even just ask a question that gives him trouble, he digresses to name calling and derision while simultaneously accusing you of the same. 

 

If you point any of this out to him, he pretends not to see any of it and ends his post with "bless your heart, have a blessed day" and an asinine picture.

 

In short, Bill is a hypocrite, a phony "Christian", and a diagnosed narcissist. 

 

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Only those traits in bold and red are true...

 

 

 

Hi all,

 

Have you ever notice how, even in the most talented of classes -- there will be one (two in this instance) who do not have the ability to learn or communicate.  You can always spot them by their tantrums.   Tantrums are typically the actions of small children who do not understand, so will scream and yell to get attention. 

 

We just have to be patient, for God has a plan even for those lost ones.  Possibly He puts them there just to keep those who can learn awake. 

 

Bless their little tantrum filled hearts!

 

Bill

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