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Obamacare was sold on a body of lies -- not just your garden variety lies, but bloody dammed lies! Herr Doktor GrÜber lied. Obama lied. Even worse, GrÜber was incompetent and dishonest.  

 

"All the millions of dollars paid to Jonathan Gruber by the federal and state governments to help design and implement ObamaCare may have been a bad bargain for reasons other than MIT economics whiz's inability to stop insulting voters. His predictions, which government agencies used to make critical projections about the heath care plan, have not held up, according to an analysis.

 

Although President Obama has downplayed Gruber's role in crafting the Affordable Care Act, White House logs show he visited 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. more than a dozen times and was paid $400,000 for his work on the project. That followed several years of work with the state of Massachusetts, where a universal health care system implemented under former Gov. Mitt Romney has been hailed as the model for ObamaCare. 

“Gruber’s comment that it was all right to mislead people to get to a desired outcome that he favored led our auditors to determine he had at least the appearance of an independence impairment,” Bill Holmes, a spokesman for the North Carolina Auditor’s office, told WRAL Thursday.

 

But despite Gruber's damaging comments, it had been widely assumed that he knew what he was talking about when it came to the nuts and bolts of the plan.

“I hope his modeling is better than his political communication skills,” Democratic strategist Joe Trippi said on The Kelly File Monday.

 

Analysis of Gruber's predictions by the conservative think tank Manhattan Institute and others casts doubt on his ability to project how the controversial law, which was signed into law in 2010, but only took wide effect last year after a long series of political and legal challenges, would play out.

Gruber Prediction: Premiums will go down

“What we know for sure the bill will do is that it will lower the cost of buying non-group health insurance,” Gruber told the Washington Post in November 2009.

Premiums rose due to ObamaCare by an average of 49 percent, according to a county-by-county analysis done by the Manhattan Institute, proving critics and insurance companies, who had said Gruber’s models were deeply flawed, correct.

“[ObamaCare] will result in individual market premiums increasing, not decreasing, as stated in the Gruber paper,” insurance company Wellpoint wrote in a 2009 paper.

Gruber had simply failed to consider key factors in the plan that Wellpoint correctly predicted would add "between 20 percent and 80 percent to the cost of premiums under reform.”

Specifically, Gruber's analysis assumed everyone would qualify for ObamaCare subsidies, the company determined. Gruber’s prediction before the Senate in 2009, that ObamaCare would guarantee “sizeable premium savings for [the] young" and that a family with income of $38,000 "would save, on average, $8,550," also failed to pan out, according to the Manhattan Institute analysis"

 

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...amacare-predictions/

 

"There are hundreds of aspects of Obamacare that people argue over. But there’s one question that matters above all others: does the Affordable Care Act live up to its name? Does it make health insurance less expensive? Last November, our team at the Manhattan Institute published a study indicating that Obamacare had increased the underlying cost of individually-purchased health insurance in the average state by 41 percent in 2014, relative to 2013. We’ve now redone the study on a county-by-county basis, complete with a brand-new interactive map. Depending on where you live, the results may surprise you.

 

Our new county-by-county analysis was led by Yegeniy Feyman, who compiled the county-based data for 27-year-olds, 40-year-olds, and 64-year-olds, segregated by gender. We were able to obtain data for 3,137 of the United States’ 3,144 counties."

http://www.forbes.com/sites/th...ms-by-average-of-49/

 

Originally, GrÜber was heralded bu Pelosi, Reid and Obama as the prophet of healthcare -- a mastermind.  Now, nobody remembers his name.  How long before Dems say, "Obama, don't know him."

TRUTH -- THE NEW HATE SPEECH!

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The administration also used the number of dental plans to pad the number of people enrolled in Obamadon'care.

 

LOS ANGELES (MarketWatch) —Concerns over Obamacare’s origins flared again Thursday after it was revealed that nearly 400,000 people in dental plans padded enrollment figures in the program’s first year, and helped it retain a critical numerical threshold.

http://www.marketwatch.com/sto...=MW_default_trending

Originally Posted by jtdavis:

$609 for a 64 year old man or woman in Alabama.  What is covered? Some of the pre ACA did not pay anything. 

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I believe that the methodology uses the average of the 5 cheapest plans in the state except for Alabama which uses the second cheapest silver plan rate:

 

*Methodological Caveats: Additionally, the average of 5 cheapest plans in Alabama ends up being more expensive than the second-cheapest silver plan (which is used to calculate subsidies). Thus, in Alabama, we assume, for the purposes of developing a net cost of insurance for the median individual, that the individual purchases the second-cheapest silver plan. We also excluded a number of plans from our calculations. Excluded plans include those which explicitly offer vision or dental coverage, child-only plans, plans that cover bariatric surgery, as well as catastrophic plans. Lastly, it's important to note that the third and first categories are not directly comparable; the third category uses data from an older dataset and was not updated with more recent figures, and thus isn't completely comparable.

http://www.manhattan-institute...wyourrates/about.htm

 

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