Is Same-Sex Marriage A Civil Right?

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Originally posted by O No!:
As I just said in the other thread, gays are not harming anyone. Why are you so concerned about what people do in the privacy of their own homes? I would be willing to bet that some of the people you know and love are gay. If you found out, would you stop loving them? Why? They have never hurt you or anyone else.

And as far as animals exhibiting homosexual behavior, you can rail all you want about humans being different, but it DOES show that even human beings can indeed be born that way.


OH GOOD LORD!!!! MALE ANIMALS MOUNT OTHER MALE ANIMALS TO ASSURT DOMINANCE!!! THERE... FOR PETE'S SAKE PEOPLE!!! Would you be ok if men walked around mounting other men out in public??? What do you think if you see someone droppin a deuce on the sidewalk??? WE ARE NOT FREAKIN ANIMALS!!! Please.. i beg you folks... it is so moronic to compare us to animals... except for folks in prison and homeless people.... that was a mean joke and I apoligize. That would only be ok to say if I were Daniel Tosh.

And I know gay people... worked with a gay guy for 5 years.. Awesome guy, fun to hang out with, and a laugh riot!!! We never talked about it... but if asked, I'd be honest. I don't care what anybody does, but that doesnt change the fact of the matter.

Oh, and I responded on that other thread about the "not harming anyone" thing.
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Originally posted by Peter Rielly:
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Originally posted by Unobtanium:
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Leviticus Chapter 18
22 "Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable

23 "Do not have sexual relations with an animal and defile yourself with it. A woman must not present herself to an animal to have sexual relations with it; that is perversion.


and tell us, peter, according to the bible what is the punishment for committing those abominations? do you agree with that punishment?


the only capital offense consistenly mentioned in the Bible punishable by death is murder... though I wish we could add rapists and child molestors.


umm, the punishment is death, peter.

"If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." Leviticus 20:13

dont any of you ever read the bible?


so do you jsut pick and choose what verses of the bible you want to enforce? if so, how do you insist that leviticus is correct about homoism being wrong yet deny what your invisible man says is punishment?
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Yes, they have the same rights you and I. They have the right to marry and to even have children -- the same as you and I.

Today, we all can marry. But, we cannot marry children, we cannot marry our pet sheep, we cannot marry five spouses -- and we cannot marry a person of the same sex. We all have that same right under the law.

So, what's the problem?


I want to make sure I understand you correctly. You're ok with the government deciding who can and can't get married? If the government only permitted people to marry within their race, would you defend that by saying "everyone has the same right to marry a person of the opposite sex and the same race, so anyone who wants to do something else wants a 'special right?'"
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Originally posted by dolemitejb:
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Yes, they have the same rights you and I. They have the right to marry and to even have children -- the same as you and I.

Today, we all can marry. But, we cannot marry children, we cannot marry our pet sheep, we cannot marry five spouses -- and we cannot marry a person of the same sex. We all have that same right under the law.

So, what's the problem?

I want to make sure I understand you correctly. You're ok with the government deciding who can and can't get married? If the government only permitted people to marry within their race, would you defend that by saying "everyone has the same right to marry a person of the opposite sex and the same race, so anyone who wants to do something else wants a 'special right?'"

Hi Dole,

The precedence for marriage between one man and one woman was set some 6000 or so years ago. It is well defined in the Bible and has been the guideline for family planning for those over 6000 years -- and has been the law in America for over 200 years.

So, I will go with the precedence which has been set. And, I will stay with the Biblical form of marriage. It has worked well for these many millennia -- so, why fool with success?

God bless, have a wonderful, blessed day,

Bill

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Originally posted by b50m:
Peter, in the order of the world, we are either animals or plants.

I don't have leaves, do you? Wink


The fact that you folks have such a hard time distinguishing between the two things I'm speaking of is startin to make me wonder if Coco the monkey hasnt figured out how to type.... amazing... truely amazing.
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The precedence for marriage between one man and one woman was set some 6000 or so years ago. It is well defined in the Bible and has been the guideline for family planning for those over 6000 years -- and has been the law in America for over 200 years.

So, I will go with the precedence which has been set. And, I will stay with the Biblical form of marriage. It has worked well for these many millennia -- so, why fool with success?


You are free to believe what ever you want. I'm asking if you would maintain your "homosexuals are free to marry the opposite sex just like heterosexuals" argument if the law said people of different races couldn't marry.
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Originally posted by Unobtanium:
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it is so moronic to compare us to animals


we are animals, dummy.



Unobrain,

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Originally posted by David L.:
Surely Bill G. is not looking for scientific evidence for being gay? He has no respect for science as shown in his posts regarding the age of the earth.

I guess he just goes with whatever theory justifies his beliefs. Roll Eyes


That would be the literal, unerring interpretation of the Bible. Or as Bill reads it, Jesus love me, but he hates your guts.

His is in fact looking for scientific evidence, and when he finds some that disproves his world view, he denies it, distorts it, or lies about it.
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Originally posted by b50m:
Actually, Peter, It's KOKO the gorilla.


Not on Seinfeld it's not... remember.... George wants his nickname to be "T-Bone", but someone else gets it first, then George gets tagged by his boss as CoCo the monkey... though you could be right about the K's... lol
Recratican posted:

Dunno about civil right in Alabammy,(sic) but our state senate just passed a bill to eliminate marriage licenses in this state. What will house do? Should solve some long standing problems in some counties.

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Same sex, with animals, with inaminale stuff, or with liberals shouldn't
be classified as Marriage, it should be a different term for it. 
Human marriage is one Woman one Man, end of definition.....

 

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