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That's strictly the Palestinian side. I checked the Cactus48 site, do you really thing that is an unbiased account?

For everyone else who may be reading.

http://www.cactus48.com/

Here is a more accurate timeline.

http://www.sixdaywar.co.uk/timeline-concise.htm

I'm assuming that you throughly reviewed the website I linked, correct?

A quote for you to consider.

"We shall not enter Palestine with its soil covered in sand, we shall enter it with its soil saturated in blood" - President of Egypt, Gamal Abdel Nasser.


Pogo, what do you think that quote means? Who's blood did the Egyptian President want spilled on the sand?

Those are three simple questions. I look forward to your direct answers to them.

While you are answering those three questions, here is another quote that makes the Palestinian goals very clear.

"Our goal is clear - to wipe Israel off the map" -President Aref of Iraq, May 31st 1967
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Originally posted by Pogo142:
The Catus site is put out by Jews for Justice in the Middle East and they are using Israeli quotes, what do you think their quotes mean?

Israel provoked the crises then used it as an excuse to invade and steal the rest of the partition.


So I see you're an anti-semite, pugo. Let us spread the news far and wide about our "progressive" genius! You should be ashamed. It's people like you who are wrecking our country. Smiler
The quotes show Israel provoked the conflict. They are by the leaders themselves.

Criticism of Israel, especially it's lies and aggresion, is not anti Semitism.

Nasser did not have enough troops on the border to invade, it was clearly defensive and his quotes are meant as threats if attacked.

The fact the war was over in 6 days, really 3 days, shows the Israelis were prepared and the Arabs were not. Otherwise the war woiuld have lasted longer.

These quotes are backed by history and Israelis actions as they began mapping out the land and building new Jewish settlements in the land a few months after the war ended.
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The Catus site is put out by Jews for Justice in the Middle East and they are using Israeli quotes, what do you think their quotes mean?

Israel provoked the crises then used it as an excuse to invade and steal the rest of the partition.


That's not true at all.

The Cactus site has a lot of pro-Palestinian links on the front page. That's not a balanced site, it's one sided propaganda.

As for your claim that Israel provoked the crisis, I've already given you information proving this wrong.

Of the three questions I gave you, you answered one.
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Originally posted by Pogo142:
The quotes show Israel provoked the conflict. They are by the leaders themselves.

Criticism of Israel, especially it's lies and aggresion, is not anti Semitism.

Nasser did not have enough troops on the border to invade, it was clearly defensive and his quotes are meant as threats if attacked.

The fact the war was over in 6 days, really 3 days, shows the Israelis were prepared and the Arabs were not. Otherwise the war woiuld have lasted longer.

These quotes are backed by history and Israelis actions as they began mapping out the land and building new Jewish settlements in the land a few months after the war ended.


Anti semite, anti semite, anti semite! Big Grin You terrible person!
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The Catus site is put out by Jews for Justice in the Middle East and they are using Israeli quotes, what do you think their quotes mean?

Israel provoked the crises then used it as an excuse to invade and steal the rest of the partition.
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NashBama

That's not true at all.

The Cactus site has a lot of pro-Palestinian links on the front page. That's not a balanced site, it's one sided propaganda.

As for your claim that Israel provoked the crisis, I've already given you information proving this wrong.

Of the three questions I gave you, you answered one.

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You make me laugh, your so pathetic it's funny and hard to take you seriously. Because some Jews support the Palestinians and say the Palestinians are right, and back up their claims with quotes from Israeli leaders, they are biased.

I asked you a question, what do you think they mean when they say they provoked the crisies and Nasser did not have enough troops on the border to invade? Or any of the quotes, lke claiming all of Palestine? Or their actions of mapping out and building settlmenets in the land they just stole withing months of the invasion?

You didn't prove anything except you don't know what your talking about. Sorry to insult you I am trying to be civil, here but your ignoromg the facts to try to prove you are right. I answered a question now you answer mine.
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You make me laugh, your so pathetic it's funny and hard to take you seriously. Because some Jews support the Palestinians and say the Palestinians are right, and back up their claims with quotes from Israeli leaders, they are biased.

I asked you a question, what do you think they mean when they say they provoked the crisies and Nasser did not have enough troops on the border to invade? Or any of the quotes, lke claiming all of Palestine? Or their actions of mapping out and building settlmenets in the land they just stole withing months of the invasion?

You didn't prove anything except you don't know what your talking about. Sorry to insult you I am trying to be civil, here but your ignoromg the facts to try to prove you are right. I answered a question now you answer mine.


Answer my questions first, I asked them first.

1. Did you throughly review the information on the website I gave you? Just in case you missed it, here it is again.

http://www.sixdaywar.co.uk/timeline-concise.htm

2. Regarding the following quote "We shall not enter Palestine with its soil covered in sand, we shall enter it with its soil saturated in blood" - President of Egypt, Gamal Abdel Nasser.

What does the quote mean? Who's blood will saturate the sand?

3. How do you justify this statement. "Our goal is clear - to wipe Israel off the map" -President Aref of Iraq, May 31st 1967.

Answer those three questions and I'll answer whatever questions you have.
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NashBama


[quote]Answer my questions first, I asked them first.

1. Did you throughly review the information on the website I gave you? Just in case you missed it, here it is again.

http://www.sixdaywar.co.uk/timeline-concise.htm

2. Regarding the following quote "We shall not enter Palestine with its soil covered in sand, we shall enter it with its soil saturated in blood" - President of Egypt, Gamal Abdel Nasser.

What does the quote mean? Who's blood will saturate the sand?

3. How do you justify this statement. "Our goal is clear - to wipe Israel off the map" -President Aref of Iraq, May 31st 1967.

Answer those three questions and I'll answer whatever questions you have.

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The first pharagraph says the Syrians shelled the farmers in the demilititarized Zone, in my site Dyan says they sent them there to provoke them.

I am familure with the 6 day war as I watched it on TV as a 3rd year High School student and watched the Israelis presented as victims but it turns out it was a lie. They provoked the war to steal the land, which they did. Not the only war at the time the press amd govenrment was lying about in the spring of 1967.


I answered your quotes already, they are in respomse to Israelis provocation. Another quote Nasser said was "If Israel wants war we will give them one" They were defensive meant to prevent a war but the Egyptians were causght by surprise, as were all the Arabs.

I give you quotes out of their own mouths, they claim all the land and must use provocations and revenege and hope for a war with the Arabs to expand their space. They attacked They started the war. They invaded and began building right away, within months.
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The first pharagraph says the Syrians shelled the farmers in the demilititarized Zone, in my site Dyan says they sent them there to provoke them.

I am familure with the 6 day war as I watched it on TV as a 3rd year High School student and watched the Israelis presented as victims but it turns out it was a lie. They provoked the war to steal the land, which they did. Not the only war at the time the press amd govenrment was lying about in the spring of 1967.


I answered your quotes already, they are in respomse to Israelis provocation. Another quote Nasser said was "If Israel wants war we will give them one" They were defensive meant to prevent a war but the Egyptians were causght by surprise, as were all the Arabs.

I give you quotes out of their own mouths, they claim all the land and must use provocations and revenege and hope for a war with the Arabs to expand their space. They attacked They started the war. They invaded and began building right away, within months.


You're avoiding the questions. Let's try one at a time, starting with the first one.

1. Did you throughly review the information on the website I gave you? Here it is one last time.

http://www.sixdaywar.co.uk/timeline-concise.htm
Did you read the information I posted?

we will try it again.

Also, if you have a particular paragraph or incident you wish to discuss I will be happy to discuss it. As I say, I lived through the 6 day war and watched all this on TV. This site makes sense as to what really happened.

I glanced over the BBC site and it is more filled with opinion then actual facts.

1967 War

http://www.cactus48.com/1967war.html

...Menahem Begin had the following remarks to make: 'In June 1967, we again had a choice. The Egyptian Army concentrations in the Sinai approaches do not prove that Nasser was really about to attack us. We must be honest with ourselves. We decided to attack him.' "Noam Chomsky, "The Fateful Triangle."


"I do not think Nasser wanted war. The two divisions he sent to The Sinai would not have been sufficient to launch an offensive war. He knew it and we knew it." Yitzhak Rabin, Israel's Chief of Staff in 1967, in Le Monde, 2/28/68

Moshe Dayan posthumously speaks out on the Golan Heights

"Moshe Dayan, the celebrated commander who, as Defense Minister in 1967, gave the order to conquer the Golan...[said] many of the firefights with the Syrians were deliberately provoked by Israel, and the kibbutz residents who pressed the Government to take the Golan Heights did so less for security than for the farmland...[Dayan stated] 'They didn't even try to hide their greed for the land...We would send a tractor to plow some area where it wasn't possible to do anything, in the demilitarized area, and knew in advance that the Syrians would start to shoot. If they didn't shoot, we would tell the tractor to advance further, until in the end the Syrians would get annoyed and shoot.

And then we would use artillery and later the air force also, and that's how it was...The Syrians, on the fourth day of the war, were not a threat to us.'" The New York Times, May 11, 1997



"The acceptance of partition does not commit us to renounce Transjordan; one does not demand from anybody to give up his vision. We shall accept a state in the boundaries fixed today. But the boundaries of Zionist aspirations are the concern of the Jewish people and no external factor will be able to limit them." David Ben-Gurion, in 1936, quoted in Noam Chomsky, "The Fateful Triangle."



"The main danger which Israel, as a 'Jewish state', poses to its own people, to other Jews and to its neighbors, is its ideologically motivated pursuit of territorial expansion and the inevitable series of wars resulting from this aim...No zionist politician has ever repudiated Ben-Gurion's idea that Israeli policies must be based (within the limits of practical considerations) on the restoration of Biblical borders as the borders of the Jewish state." Israeli professor, Israel Shahak, "Jewish History, Jewish Religion: The Weight of 3000 yrears



In Israeli Prime Minister Moshe Sharatt's personal diaries, there is an excerpt from May of 1955 in which he quotes Moshe Dayan as follows: "[Israel] must see the sword as the main, if not the only, instrument with which to keep its morale high and to retain its moral tension. Toward this end it may, no - it must - invent dangers, and to do this it must adopt the method of provocation-and-revenge...And above all - let us hope for a new war with the Arab countries, so that we may finally get rid of our troubles and acquire our space." Quoted in Livia Rokach, "Israel's Sacred Terrorism."
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we will try it again.

Also, if you have a particular paragraph or incident you wish to discuss I will be happy to discuss it. As I say, I lived through the 6 day war and watched all this on TV. This site makes sense as to what really happened.

I glanced over the BBC site and it is more filled with opinion then actual facts.


I'm not talking about the BBC site. One last time.

Pogo, click this link and tell me what you read.

http://www.sixdaywar.co.uk/timeline-concise.htm

As for your website, it is very one sided. The home page has an article written by Gideon Levy, a pro Palestinian writer who has been supportive of Palestinian violence. There are also links to anti Jewish and Pro Palestinian organizations. It's completely one sided propaganda.

Click the link above for a more accurate account of the Six Day War. After you read the information provided, then we can discuss it.
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NashBama


[quote]I'm not talking about the BBC site. One last time.

Pogo, click this link and tell me what you read.

http://www.sixdaywar.co.uk/timeline-concise.htm

As for your website, it is very one sided. The home page has an article written by Gideon Levy, a pro Palestinian writer who has been supportive of Palestinian violence. There are also links to anti Jewish and Pro Palestinian organizations. It's completely one sided propaganda.

Click the link above for a more accurate account of the Six Day War. After you read the information provided, then we can discuss it.

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Once again, If you find a site that agrees with you you call it legtimate, if it doesn't you call it biased.

Gideon Levy is an Israeli journalist who writes for Ha'artez, a liberal Israeli paper.

Feel free to bring up any point you wish to discuss. I told you, the quotes by Nasser were in resposnse to Israelis provocations and threats of their own.
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Once again, If you find a site that agrees with you you call it legtimate, if it doesn't you call it biased.

Gideon Levy is an Israeli journalist who writes for Ha'artez, a liberal Israeli paper.

Feel free to bring up any point you wish to discuss. I told you, the quotes by Nasser were in resposnse to Israelis provocations and threats of their own.


Pogo, last time I will ask you. Please answer the question.

Pogo, click this link.

http://www.sixdaywar.co.uk/timeline-concise.htm

Pogo, did you click the link and read what it said?

Seriously, how hard is that to do?

Levy is a radical left wing writer who has supported Palestinian terror attacks. If the site you provided was from a legitimate source, I would consider it's information to be accurate.

However, that's not what you provided. The site you gave is a biased anti-Israeli, pro-Palestinian website. The information there will not be correct, it's slanted towards the Palestinian views to say what they want to be true, not what is factual.

Look at the website I just gave you, Pogo. Here it is one last time.

http://www.sixdaywar.co.uk/timeline-concise.htm

So the next response I should get is either "Yes, I reviewed the information" or "No, I did not review the information".
I reviewed the information previously and said the first paragraph says the Israelis provoked the Syrians.

I will discuss any point you chose to pick out. I answered your questions and again, if they argree with you you call it legtimate other wise they are biased.

Levy is an Israeli journalist and as are other Jewish people, like Jews for Justice, and Israelis who are sick of the Israeli governments lies, murder and represion of the Palestinian people.

Levy never supported terrorism by Palestinians.

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