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C'mon Jug, you know that can't be right. Beternu has told us repeatedly that this is a dead end trail and we should not concern ourselves with this matter. besides, the copy of his real birth certificate was released by the administration officials just days after he was elected. here is the copy I received....

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Originally posted by Jugflier:
This is a convincing documant. You may need to scroll down the page a bit.

http://www.infowars.com/shocki...obama-born-in-kenya/


This is the same website that tried to pass off a satellite view of a prison as a secret prison in the US that was actually a North Korean prison. Also, tried to pass off railway cars used to ship vehicles as prison cars. Take any info from them with, not a grain of salt, but the whole shaker.
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Originally posted by interventor12:
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Originally posted by Jugflier:
This is a convincing documant. You may need to scroll down the page a bit.

http://www.infowars.com/shocki...obama-born-in-kenya/


This is the same website that tried to pass off a satellite view of a prison as a secret prison in the US that was actually a North Korean prison. Also, tried to pass off railway cars used to ship vehicles as prison cars. Take any info from them with, not a grain of salt, but the whole shaker.



Blah, blah, blah, there's more truth on Info wars than there is all the Republican party, Sarah palin and George Bush crime family combined.

BTW, I didn't know the conservative website World Net Daily was a whacko site.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?f...E.view&pageId=105764
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Originally posted by Jugflier:
This is a convincing documant. You may need to scroll down the page a bit.

http://www.infowars.com/shocki...obama-born-in-kenya/




And the point of this is what?.......Is it that the former administration and their minions were the stupidest and most inept in the history of the U.S. Did they allow a foreign person of color ,not even a legal citizen ,to not only qualify but to run for the Presidency and win.All of this while spending millions of dollars and embarrassing themselves with a hail mary attempt from of all places Alaska.
It really doesn't matter if our fearless leader was born on Mars and his daddy was a space-lizard. He meets the legal qualifications for citizenship.

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Natural-born citizen

Who is a natural-born citizen? Who, in other words, is a citizen at birth, such that that person can be a President someday?

The 14th Amendment defines citizenship this way: "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside." But even this does not get specific enough. As usual, the Constitution provides the framework for the law, but it is the law that fills in the gaps.

Currently, Title 8 of the U.S. Code fills in those gaps. Section 1401 defines the following as people who are "citizens of the United States at birth:"

* Anyone born inside the United States *
* Any Indian or Eskimo born in the United States, provided being a citizen of the U.S. does not impair the person's status as a citizen of the tribe
* Any one born outside the United States, both of whose parents are citizens of the U.S., as long as one parent has lived in the U.S.
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year and the other parent is a U.S. national
* Any one born in a U.S. possession, if one parent is a citizen and lived in the U.S. for at least one year
* Any one found in the U.S. under the age of five, whose parentage cannot be determined, as long as proof of non-citizenship is not provided by age 21
* Any one born outside the United States, if one parent is an alien and as long as the other parent is a citizen of the U.S. who lived in the U.S. for at least five years (with military and diplomatic service included in this time)
* A final, historical condition: a person born before 5/24/1934 of an alien father and a U.S. citizen mother who has lived in the U.S.

* There is an exception in the law — the person must be "subject to the jurisdiction" of the United States. This would exempt the child of a diplomat, for example, from this provision.

Anyone falling into these categories is considered natural-born, and is eligible to run for President or Vice President. These provisions allow the children of military families to be considered natural-born, for example.
http://www.usconstitution.net/consttop_citi.html
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Originally posted by jefft:
-Date of birth listed: Aug. 4, 1961
-Bottom left hand corner of "certificate" issued by the "Republic of Kenya".
-Republic of Kenya established Dec 12, 1964

Fail.


The date of this document is February 1694. Kenya declared it's independence in 1963, it declared itself Republic in the date you mentioned.
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Originally posted by Jugflier:
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Originally posted by jefft:
-Date of birth listed: Aug. 4, 1961
-Bottom left hand corner of "certificate" issued by the "Republic of Kenya".
-Republic of Kenya established Dec 12, 1964

Fail.


The date of this document is February 1694. Kenya declared it's independence in 1963, it declared itself Republic in the date you mentioned.

I assume you meant 1964.
In any case, the document is dated 17 FEB 1964, which would be an after the fact, post dated "certificate" from 1961.
Even at that, FEB 1964 is before DEC 1964. Dec 1964 is the point at which the Republic of Kenya came into existence. Declaration of independance / foundation of Republic of Kenya two different things. And still...
Fail.
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Originally posted by jefft:
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Originally posted by Jugflier:
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Originally posted by jefft:
-Date of birth listed: Aug. 4, 1961
-Bottom left hand corner of "certificate" issued by the "Republic of Kenya".
-Republic of Kenya established Dec 12, 1964

Fail.


The date of this document is February 1694. Kenya declared it's independence in 1963, it declared itself Republic in the date you mentioned.

I assume you meant 1964.
In any case, the document is dated 17 FEB 1964, which would be an after the fact, post dated "certificate" from 1961.
Even at that, FEB 1964 is before DEC 1964. Dec 1964 is the point at which the Republic of Kenya came into existence. Declaration of independance / foundation of Republic of Kenya two different things. And still...
Fail.


And do you know what Kenya referred to itself by during the year between it's independence and its declaration as a republic? Is it not possible that the people viewed it as a republic before it was officially declared so?
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Originally posted by Jugflier:
And do you know what Kenya referred to itself by during the year between it's independence and its declaration as a republic? Is it not possible that the people viewed it as a republic before it was officially declared so?


Possible in the population? Yes. On official documentation? No. That's what is meant when they say "officially declared".
You know, at some point you may just want to say to yourself "..yeah, that'd be really killer if it were legit but this is obviously a fake."
Just move on to something else, man, really. You can find something else to pick on without clinging to such things as a picture of a forged document on the internet. This kind of twisting around just makes you look kinda desperate.
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Originally posted by kperk014:
Isn't it ironic that a piece of foreign filth like obama would be allowed to run for president but a good man like Tim Tebow would be barred.


Why? People in Alabama elect Roger Bedford over and over. What's the difference?


Only people in his district elect him.

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