You may have been being sarcastic, and if so, forgive me. The TC novel is titled Sleeper Cell. I enjoy playing Splinter Cell, a game based on his work, on PS2 as well.
You're surely correct about sleeper cells. Since I'm obsessed, I'll add here that Season 4 of 24 dealt with that issue, as does the season that began last night.
quote:Originally posted by one who posts:
Oh, good. I'm glad your website is here to give us real knowledge.
Go read a book. Better yet, since you've decided to be the Christian warrior, go read the Qur'an so you can actually quote it from your own study instead of quoting someone else who may or may be quoting someone else as well.
This is getting old. People have an opinion and they go look for easy ways to help justify them e.g. websites and nifty e-mail forwards. If your opinion is right, then you will be better for having solid evidence. If it's wrong, you'll be better for knowing the truth.
BTW, you see more street dancers than sympathizers because it makes better news spots. A leading Muslim leader was just on NATIONAL TELEVISION this very morning repudiating the extremists and terrorists. He was lauding Muslims who have had contact with terrorist organizations but chose to leave and fight against them.
Research = Knowledge = Power, therefore without research, you have no power.
I had the opportunity to listen to the Iraqi Ambassador to the UN on NPR this afternoon.
I got the DISTINCT impression that he is DELIGHTED with the new government in Iraq, I did not hear a single word of criticism of the US invasion of Iraq, I detetected a not of pure satisfaction in his remarks about the recent HANGINGS.
I have no idea if he is a good guy, he spent years in exile from Iraq, in the good old USA. He was articulate, and If he and his fellow government people can combine the best interest of Iraq, and the national intrests of the USA, there is a possibility of Success. He sure did not urge any more killing, but HE DID SAY THE USA SHOULD STAY, FOR THE TIME BEING, AND HELP THE IRAQI GOVERNMENT ENFORCE THE NEW CONSTITIUTION. And he did not rule out using firearms to do that.
I detetected a note of pure satisfaction. (I really gotta start proof reading)
I'm not real sure why you added that comment to my words, but you've made a good point. I especially love that you called the war an "invasion."
No the title didn't even have 'cell' in it. The main envolved a terriost attack using some type of modified ebola virus. Along with the murder/kidnapping of the Pres's daughter and wife. It's been a long time but I think also an attempt on his life. This Clancy novel must have came after Jack Ryan survived the plane crashing into the capitol building killing the Pres. It had so many sub-plots they tend to run together in my - still not 100% back mind.
quote:Originally posted by one who posts:
I'm not real sure why you added that comment to my words, but you've made a good point. I especially love that you called the war an "invasion."
I was a little unsure myself, I am not sure the Iraq ambassador is a Muslim. I think he probably is, but I am not certain.
There is one think I am positive about, if Islam were a Violent Religion, willing to die for their beliefs, there would at least ONE BILLION DEAD PEOPLE ON EARTH. At least half of them Muslims, the other half "kafir."
This is obviously a right wing or Zionist hate site that is aimed at stirring up fear.
The first rule in propaganda is to say "They are not like us" therefore we are justified in killing them.
There are Muslim extremists but they are a minority and had little support among the people but as US and Israeli crimes and atrocities continue every day they gain more support. They resisitng western occupation and domination.
Checkout some of the films and sites about what it's like to live under Israeli occupation as they steal your land and ethnically cleanse it and you will understand.
The Palestinian parents are like us and do want the best for their children, but they are being shot, imprisoned and denied education and quality of life by Israeli occupation. They watch their children grow without enough to eat and harassed and no opportunity for a better life. It's stolen by the Israelis. They don't teach their children to hate, the occupation and war crimes by Israel, and the US, teaches them to hate.
Cramped into little "bantustans" on their own land while it's stolen by "settlers." Their water restricted while the settlers steal their water and have unlimited quantities.
Waiting hours at checkpoints where guards abuse and harass them. Children and people have died being denied passage to hospitals, babies have been born and died in lines at checkpoints.
Food restricted and the people kept in poverty and prevented from construction and development. Arrested and jailed with no charges and trial, beaten and kept in over crowded dirty prisons.
I have seen plenty of pictures of American children posing with guns and inflamatory sayings. Flags waving and all.
I have never seen the cutting and bleeding but I am sure it is a small gorup of extremists, just like we have our extremists here also.
And these Zionist and right wing hate sites always take quotes form the Quran out of context. An important point in Islam is not to take quotes out of context. Just as if they took quotes out of the Old Testament about killing non believers and such. And it is Israel that is stealing their land and it is the US and West that invaded and has controlled the region since WW1. Overthrowing governments, murdering leaders, suppressing democratic and labor movements and imposing repressive puppet dictators.
The real religious intolerance in the region is the Zionists claim to the land.
The majority of Arab and Muslim people are just like us and want freedom and peace to raise their families.
The first rule in propaganda is to say "They are not like us" therefore we are justified in killing them.
There are Muslim extremists but they are a minority and had little support among the people but as US and Israeli crimes and atrocities continue every day they gain more support. They resisitng western occupation and domination.
Checkout some of the films and sites about what it's like to live under Israeli occupation as they steal your land and ethnically cleanse it and you will understand.
The Palestinian parents are like us and do want the best for their children, but they are being shot, imprisoned and denied education and quality of life by Israeli occupation. They watch their children grow without enough to eat and harassed and no opportunity for a better life. It's stolen by the Israelis. They don't teach their children to hate, the occupation and war crimes by Israel, and the US, teaches them to hate.
Cramped into little "bantustans" on their own land while it's stolen by "settlers." Their water restricted while the settlers steal their water and have unlimited quantities.
Waiting hours at checkpoints where guards abuse and harass them. Children and people have died being denied passage to hospitals, babies have been born and died in lines at checkpoints.
Food restricted and the people kept in poverty and prevented from construction and development. Arrested and jailed with no charges and trial, beaten and kept in over crowded dirty prisons.
I have seen plenty of pictures of American children posing with guns and inflamatory sayings. Flags waving and all.
I have never seen the cutting and bleeding but I am sure it is a small gorup of extremists, just like we have our extremists here also.
And these Zionist and right wing hate sites always take quotes form the Quran out of context. An important point in Islam is not to take quotes out of context. Just as if they took quotes out of the Old Testament about killing non believers and such. And it is Israel that is stealing their land and it is the US and West that invaded and has controlled the region since WW1. Overthrowing governments, murdering leaders, suppressing democratic and labor movements and imposing repressive puppet dictators.
The real religious intolerance in the region is the Zionists claim to the land.
The majority of Arab and Muslim people are just like us and want freedom and peace to raise their families.
In the recorded history we have, just how many years of real peace has there been? Not as many I fear as those of war. It is a never ending battle in the middle east has been will be. I wish we could change that, but the jews will always want to kill the arabs.Just as the arabs will always want to kill jews.
It is not like here in the U.S. where we value any life,white,black,yellow it's just a different culture we don't understand.
It is not like here in the U.S. where we value any life,white,black,yellow it's just a different culture we don't understand.
quote:Originally posted by themax:
In the recorded history we have, just how many years of real peace has there been? Not as many I fear as those of war. It is a never ending battle in the middle east has been will be. I wish we could change that, but the jews will always want to kill the arabs.Just as the arabs will always want to kill jews.
It is not like here in the U.S. where we value any life,white,black,yellow it's just a different culture we don't understand.
We are a civilized nation... it is extremely hard to comprehend people living centuries of just killing and fighting... but it is now happening here also... Gangs, school shootings, road rage...
That is not even close to comparing the warring factions of the Middle East, but I know one thing, we are not going to stop their centuries of CULTURE.... whatever day is chosen to leave there, next month, next year, 10 years from now... whenever we pull out, it won't be six months till they are back to where they started... back in the Culture they feel comfortable with.... Oh, don't think I mean EVERY one of them... because some of them will love civilized life... but the majority will just go back to the "KING OF THE HILL" game.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by one who posts:
"I have thought, almost from the beginning of this present war, that Washington might revert to the horrible attrocity they called a solution that we pulled on Japanese-Americans during WW2."
Good point. That has been a concern of mine as well. With the influence of the media with their unbalanced sensationalism, looking at the whole WMD issue, it did not seem far-fetched to see something like that happening.
"I have thought, almost from the beginning of this present war, that Washington might revert to the horrible attrocity they called a solution that we pulled on Japanese-Americans during WW2."
Good point. That has been a concern of mine as well. With the influence of the media with their unbalanced sensationalism, looking at the whole WMD issue, it did not seem far-fetched to see something like that happening.
quote:Originally posted by kazem7419:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by one who posts:
"I have thought, almost from the beginning of this present war, that Washington might revert to the horrible attrocity they called a solution that we pulled on Japanese-Americans during WW2."
Good point. That has been a concern of mine as well. With the influence of the media with their unbalanced sensationalism, looking at the whole WMD issue, it did not seem far-fetched to see something like that happening.
As much as it breaks my heart and makes me angry to say this, I think that is EXACTLY what Bush/Cheney is going toward...
quote:Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:quote:Originally posted by kazem7419:
Nice quote voices i. Keep the people paranoid and play on their lack of understanding. It seems easy for some people to decide what is what based on third hand information. How can you look at one religion and say it's not peacful when the history of all or most religions have shown to be aggressive at one point or another.
On the whole, this is a very good point you brought out... WELCOME to the boards...
Please feel free to read back over the older posts, and maybe you can get some insight about all of us
Thank You. I'm just glad people are talking about Islam and Muslims. Many people do not realize that it is 73 different types of Muslim. It only take a hand full of one type of Muslim with extreme views to give the international society the idea that all Muslims are angry at,and bloodthirsty for "infidels." I only hope this forum and others like it bridge understanding for Non-Muslims as well as Muslims. Peace to you Ma'am and all those that desire peace.
quote:Originally posted by kazem7419:quote:Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:quote:Originally posted by kazem7419:
Nice quote voices i. Keep the people paranoid and play on their lack of understanding. It seems easy for some people to decide what is what based on third hand information. How can you look at one religion and say it's not peacful when the history of all or most religions have shown to be aggressive at one point or another.
On the whole, this is a very good point you brought out... WELCOME to the boards...
Please feel free to read back over the older posts, and maybe you can get some insight about all of us
Thank You. I'm just glad people are talking about Islam and Muslims. Many people do not realize that it is 73 different types of Muslim. It only take a hand full of one type of Muslim with extreme views to give the international society the idea that all Muslims are angry at,and bloodthirsty for "infidels." I only hope this forum and others like it bridge understanding for Non-Muslims as well as Muslims. Peace to you Ma'am and all those that desire peace.
Thanks kazem.... we try, we really do
And with someone like you on the boards, maybe we can all learn? Because, in all honesty, I think most of us are not sure which is which, ya know?quote:Originally posted by kazem7419:quote:Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:quote:Originally posted by kazem7419:
Nice quote voices i. Keep the people paranoid and play on their lack of understanding. It seems easy for some people to decide what is what based on third hand information. How can you look at one religion and say it's not peacful when the history of all or most religions have shown to be aggressive at one point or another.
On the whole, this is a very good point you brought out... WELCOME to the boards...
Please feel free to read back over the older posts, and maybe you can get some insight about all of us
Thank You. I'm just glad people are talking about Islam and Muslims. Many people do not realize that it is 73 different types of Muslim. It only take a hand full of one type of Muslim with extreme views to give the international society the idea that all Muslims are angry at,and bloodthirsty for "infidels." I only hope this forum and others like it bridge understanding for Non-Muslims as well as Muslims. Peace to you Ma'am and all those that desire peace.
kazem7419
Please allow me to also extend a welcome to you, and to express my gratitude for hearing a moderate voice with the authority of faith. Your words are much appreciated.
quote:Originally posted by kazem7419:
Walter096 wrote:
"If this is not so, where are the so-called moderate Muslims demanding that the radicals of their religion stop the killing?? Why are they not in the streets protesting?"
Answer: Most of the leaders of the Muslim world protested against the 9/11 attack and expressed their sympathies to the US, even the Iranian Ayatollahs. Protests, comments and explanations by Muslims leaders and scholars may be found at "CAIR's website" and "Islam for today website."
Americans have the perception that Muslim did not and do not speak out against terrorism. This is partly because of the sensationalist style of the American media. If thousands of top Muslim leaders condemn terrorism, it is not news and does not get reported in the US media, but if one crazy person in a cave makes wild statements, that is what the US media reports, so the American public is left with an unbalanced view of Islam and Muslims. Even the European media is more balanced than the US media in its coverage of serious versus sensationalist news, and in providing a broader perspective.
Kazem,
I am about to ask you to look at an essay about the propoganda titled Gates Omissions. It is posted on a political discussion wiki and I would like to know if you find the description of the several sects of Islam refered to as accurate. The essay is not about Islam, but it refers to Salafi and Ikhwan, the Islamic Brotherhood, and connections to Bin Laden. http://www.politicslobby.com/index.php?title=Gates_Omission
quote:Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:quote:Originally posted by kazem7419:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by one who posts:
"I have thought, almost from the beginning of this present war, that Washington might revert to the horrible attrocity they called a solution that we pulled on Japanese-Americans during WW2."
Good point. That has been a concern of mine as well. With the influence of the media with their unbalanced sensationalism, looking at the whole WMD issue, it did not seem far-fetched to see something like that happening.
As much as it breaks my heart and makes me angry to say this, I think that is EXACTLY what Bush/Cheney is going toward...
Pardon me...it was 19 Islamofascist terrorists who plowed and crashed 4 hijacked planes into the WTC, Pentagon, and a field in Pennsylvania....it was Islamofascists who blew up the USMC barracks in Beriut, Lebanon in 1983. It was Islamofascist terrorists who threw Andrew Klinghofer overboard the cruise ship while he was disabled and confined to a wheelchair. It was Islamofascists who took out the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia in 1996(or 1998). It was Islamofascists who attacked the WTC in 1993. It was Islamofascists who aided and abetted Aded in Somalia during "Black Hawk Down" in 1993. It was Islamofascists who put a hole into the USS Cole while in port in Yemen in 2000. It was Islamofascists who proclaim "Death to America, Death to Israel.." all the time, while they pass out candy and dance in the streets to these previous acts. It is Islamofascists who commit suicide car and human bombings in crowded malls, trains, bars, buses, etc. from Israel to London to Madride to Bali to East Timor to the Philippines.....
Yeah...and Islam is a peaceful religion. Sounds hijacked to me. All in the name of Allah al Akbar!!! Catholics and Protestants and Eastern Orthodox Christians finally got over it, why can't Shi'ite's and Sunni's???? Sound uncivilized to me...more like barbaric.
I say all of them should be watched like a hawk. Difference between WW2 and Japanese-American internments is that that was wrong. Japan herself, not Japanese-Americans, bombed Pearl Harbor. However, Islamic Fascists on our own soil, learning to fly in the U.S. committed 911. They all should be watched....esp. the radical ones. I have heard tapes, seen video, of what is going on in London, Kansas City, MO; and other various Mosques....Lord knows what it going on...I know in Iraq, Mosques are being used as armaments depots and cache points. Thing is, Geneva Convention won't let armies take a peek, unless you receive fire from them. I say that rule needs changing. I say we need to see what is going on in the U.S. as well...
War is hell. Problem is, the U.S. is being too politically correct in waging the GWOT, not to mention the public being weak-kneed, and politicians more concerned with votes than the business at hand. It should be waged the way one MG William T. Sherman waged war when he marched from Atlanta to Savannah through the heart of Georgia during the Civil War. "War is Hell...and I am going to make Georgia howl..." That, and the change of tactics by LTG U.S. Grant in Virginia, facing Lee and not backing down like the previous Union generals, broke the will of the South, and led to Appomattox.
Same should be applied to anyone else who tend to harm the U.S. I say we finish what we started in Iraq, then continue on to Iran and the rest. Time to stop this monkey crap and get it over with. If I had been president on 911, the GWOT would have been over with in 90 days. 30 days to build up forces, another 60 days to finish the job. And, it would not be pretty, but it would be very final and very one-sided on the U.S.'s part.
quote:Originally posted by Brentenman:
Pardon me...it was 19 Islamofascist terrorists who plowed and crashed 4 hijacked planes into the WTC, Pentagon, and a field in Pennsylvania....it was Islamofascists who blew up the USMC barracks in Beriut, Lebanon in 1983. It was Islamofascist terrorists who threw Andrew Klinghofer overboard the cruise ship while he was disabled and confined to a wheelchair. It was Islamofascists who took out the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia in 1996(or 1998). It was Islamofascists who attacked the WTC in 1993. It was Islamofascists who aided and abetted Aded in Somalia during "Black Hawk Down" in 1993. It was Islamofascists who put a hole into the USS Cole while in port in Yemen in 2000. It was Islamofascists who proclaim "Death to America, Death to Israel.." all the time, while they pass out candy and dance in the streets to these previous acts. It is Islamofascists who commit suicide car and human bombings in crowded malls, trains, bars, buses, etc. from Israel to London to Madride to Bali to East Timor to the Philippines.....
Yeah...and Islam is a peaceful religion. Sounds hijacked to me. All in the name of Allah al Akbar!!! Catholics and Protestants and Eastern Orthodox Christians finally got over it, why can't Shi'ite's and Sunni's???? Sound uncivilized to me...more like barbaric.
I say all of them should be watched like a hawk. Difference between WW2 and Japanese-American internments is that that was wrong. Japan herself, not Japanese-Americans, bombed Pearl Harbor. However, Islamic Fascists on our own soil, learning to fly in the U.S. committed 911. They all should be watched....esp. the radical ones. I have heard tapes, seen video, of what is going on in London, Kansas City, MO; and other various Mosques....Lord knows what it going on...I know in Iraq, Mosques are being used as armaments depots and cache points. Thing is, Geneva Convention won't let armies take a peek, unless you receive fire from them. I say that rule needs changing. I say we need to see what is going on in the U.S. as well...
I agree with you 100%!
quote:Originally posted by yankeewitch:quote:Originally posted by Brentenman:
Pardon me...it was 19 Islamofascist terrorists who plowed and crashed 4 hijacked planes into the WTC, Pentagon, and a field in Pennsylvania....it was Islamofascists who blew up the USMC barracks in Beriut, Lebanon in 1983. It was Islamofascist terrorists who threw Andrew Klinghofer overboard the cruise ship while he was disabled and confined to a wheelchair. It was Islamofascists who took out the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia in 1996(or 1998). It was Islamofascists who attacked the WTC in 1993. It was Islamofascists who aided and abetted Aded in Somalia during "Black Hawk Down" in 1993. It was Islamofascists who put a hole into the USS Cole while in port in Yemen in 2000. It was Islamofascists who proclaim "Death to America, Death to Israel.." all the time, while they pass out candy and dance in the streets to these previous acts. It is Islamofascists who commit suicide car and human bombings in crowded malls, trains, bars, buses, etc. from Israel to London to Madride to Bali to East Timor to the Philippines.....
Yeah...and Islam is a peaceful religion. Sounds hijacked to me. All in the name of Allah al Akbar!!! Catholics and Protestants and Eastern Orthodox Christians finally got over it, why can't Shi'ite's and Sunni's???? Sound uncivilized to me...more like barbaric.
I say all of them should be watched like a hawk. Difference between WW2 and Japanese-American internments is that that was wrong. Japan herself, not Japanese-Americans, bombed Pearl Harbor. However, Islamic Fascists on our own soil, learning to fly in the U.S. committed 911. They all should be watched....esp. the radical ones. I have heard tapes, seen video, of what is going on in London, Kansas City, MO; and other various Mosques....Lord knows what it going on...I know in Iraq, Mosques are being used as armaments depots and cache points. Thing is, Geneva Convention won't let armies take a peek, unless you receive fire from them. I say that rule needs changing. I say we need to see what is going on in the U.S. as well...
I agree with you 100%!
By the reasoning in this long diatribe on Islamofascism, I have to conclude that Brentenman wants me to believe that ONE BILLION THREE HUNDRED MILLION PLUS HUMAN BEINGS WANT THE 300 MILLION AMERICANS I KNOW OF KILLED. They outnuber us 4 to 1...we better start letting those illegals in FASTER, WE NEED THE MANPOWER.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Brentenman:
I say all of them should be watched like a hawk. [...] They all should be watched....esp. the radical ones.
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Just this morning, I was thinking the EXACT SAME THING about conservatives. Odd, isn't it?
I say all of them should be watched like a hawk. [...] They all should be watched....esp. the radical ones.
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Just this morning, I was thinking the EXACT SAME THING about conservatives. Odd, isn't it?
DBT123
YOUR watchlist is BETTER THAN HIS WATCHLIST, AND BECAUSE NEO CONSERVATISM IS NOT A PEACEFUL POLITICAL ASSOCIATION.
YOUR watchlist is BETTER THAN HIS WATCHLIST, AND BECAUSE NEO CONSERVATISM IS NOT A PEACEFUL POLITICAL ASSOCIATION.
Brentenman,
Nice presentation, if you want to present the results of events from a one sided view point. The events that you mentioned: the USMC barracks bombing, the Khobar Towers bombing, "Black Hawk Down" -Battle of Mogadishu- also known as "Operation Gothic Serpent" and the USS Cole bombing were the results of events that had taken place prior to these bombing atocities. If you noticed there is something common about each of these events: civil war and invasion. There were always civil war in these countries and the U.S. forces were usually supporting invading forces. Why would you think Marines were in Beriut, Lebanon in 1983? That's right helping Israel invade Lebanon. It was not a peace keeping mission. Let me ask you this question, if the United States were being invaded would their forces be considered terrorist for fighting back or trying to defend themselves? Who are the terrorist, the invaders or the people trying to protect themselves and their autonomy? The bombings, were the results of war, not hatred as you seem to insinuate. As far as what's being said in the mosque in Kansas City and London, what is being said? Please clarify that statement. It is nothing wrong with having an opinion, but when the sole purpose of that opinion is to spread hatred then at least give some clear facts so that those reading the opinions have the opportunity to decide for themselves what they do or do not choose to believe. I do not agree with lives being lost, but I understand that war can result death and destruction irregardless how the death and destruction takes place.
Nice presentation, if you want to present the results of events from a one sided view point. The events that you mentioned: the USMC barracks bombing, the Khobar Towers bombing, "Black Hawk Down" -Battle of Mogadishu- also known as "Operation Gothic Serpent" and the USS Cole bombing were the results of events that had taken place prior to these bombing atocities. If you noticed there is something common about each of these events: civil war and invasion. There were always civil war in these countries and the U.S. forces were usually supporting invading forces. Why would you think Marines were in Beriut, Lebanon in 1983? That's right helping Israel invade Lebanon. It was not a peace keeping mission. Let me ask you this question, if the United States were being invaded would their forces be considered terrorist for fighting back or trying to defend themselves? Who are the terrorist, the invaders or the people trying to protect themselves and their autonomy? The bombings, were the results of war, not hatred as you seem to insinuate. As far as what's being said in the mosque in Kansas City and London, what is being said? Please clarify that statement. It is nothing wrong with having an opinion, but when the sole purpose of that opinion is to spread hatred then at least give some clear facts so that those reading the opinions have the opportunity to decide for themselves what they do or do not choose to believe. I do not agree with lives being lost, but I understand that war can result death and destruction irregardless how the death and destruction takes place.
quote:If you noticed there is something common about each of these events: civil war and invasion. There were always civil war in these countries and the U.S. forces were usually supporting invading forces. Why would you think Marines were in Beriut, Lebanon in 1983? That's right helping Israel invade Lebanon. It was not a peace keeping mission. Let me ask you this question, if the United States were being invaded would their forces be considered terrorist for fighting back or trying to defend themselves? Who are the terrorist, the invaders or the people trying to protect themselves and their autonomy?
this is all very interesting. i am open for you to go deeper into this subject. By your words here, there is possibly other sides to these bombings ,we,the general public are unaware.
I believe it is quite normal for people to get mad when other people take their land. I have known people around here to be more than a little irked when the state took their farms to build a golf course.
quote:Originally posted by Brentenman:quote:Originally posted by Kindred_Spirit:quote:Originally posted by kazem7419:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by one who posts:
"I have thought, almost from the beginning of this present war, that Washington might revert to the horrible attrocity they called a solution that we pulled on Japanese-Americans during WW2."
Good point. That has been a concern of mine as well. With the influence of the media with their unbalanced sensationalism, looking at the whole WMD issue, it did not seem far-fetched to see something like that happening.
As much as it breaks my heart and makes me angry to say this, I think that is EXACTLY what Bush/Cheney is going toward...
Pardon me...it was 19 Islamofascist terrorists who plowed and crashed 4 hijacked planes into the WTC, Pentagon, and a field in Pennsylvania....it was Islamofascists who blew up the USMC barracks in Beriut, Lebanon in 1983. It was Islamofascist terrorists who threw Andrew Klinghofer overboard the cruise ship while he was disabled and confined to a wheelchair. It was Islamofascists who took out the Khobar Towers in Saudi Arabia in 1996(or 1998). It was Islamofascists who attacked the WTC in 1993. It was Islamofascists who aided and abetted Aded in Somalia during "Black Hawk Down" in 1993. It was Islamofascists who put a hole into the USS Cole while in port in Yemen in 2000. It was Islamofascists who proclaim "Death to America, Death to Israel.." all the time, while they pass out candy and dance in the streets to these previous acts. It is Islamofascists who commit suicide car and human bombings in crowded malls, trains, bars, buses, etc. from Israel to London to Madride to Bali to East Timor to the Philippines.....
Yeah...and Islam is a peaceful religion. Sounds hijacked to me. All in the name of Allah al Akbar!!! Catholics and Protestants and Eastern Orthodox Christians finally got over it, why can't Shi'ite's and Sunni's???? Sound uncivilized to me...more like barbaric.
I say all of them should be watched like a hawk. Difference between WW2 and Japanese-American internments is that that was wrong. Japan herself, not Japanese-Americans, bombed Pearl Harbor. However, Islamic Fascists on our own soil, learning to fly in the U.S. committed 911. They all should be watched....esp. the radical ones. I have heard tapes, seen video, of what is going on in London, Kansas City, MO; and other various Mosques....Lord knows what it going on...I know in Iraq, Mosques are being used as armaments depots and cache points. Thing is, Geneva Convention won't let armies take a peek, unless you receive fire from them. I say that rule needs changing. I say we need to see what is going on in the U.S. as well...
War is hell. Problem is, the U.S. is being too politically correct in waging the GWOT, not to mention the public being weak-kneed, and politicians more concerned with votes than the business at hand. It should be waged the way one MG William T. Sherman waged war when he marched from Atlanta to Savannah through the heart of Georgia during the Civil War. "War is Hell...and I am going to make Georgia howl..." That, and the change of tactics by LTG U.S. Grant in Virginia, facing Lee and not backing down like the previous Union generals, broke the will of the South, and led to Appomattox.
Same should be applied to anyone else who tend to harm the U.S. I say we finish what we started in Iraq, then continue on to Iran and the rest. Time to stop this monkey crap and get it over with. If I had been president on 911, the GWOT would have been over with in 90 days. 30 days to build up forces, another 60 days to finish the job. And, it would not be pretty, but it would be very final and very one-sided on the U.S.'s part.
Brentenman,
I've a simple question to ask. What do you plan to do when I come in your house, tell you to pack up and leave?