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Originally Posted by seeweed:
Originally Posted by teyates:

From all indications, it will not be a bestseller. She tends to be "irritating".....and even known to "chap" some folks.

Bwahahaha

moron

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Why do you think Liberals are NOT  for "our side" (meaning the US military) ?

And BTW, I resent that insinuation. 

Here are some liberal quotes for ya:

 

1) “In Vietnam, our soldiers came back and they were reviled as baby killers, in shame and humiliation. It isn’t happening now, but I will tell you, there has never been an [American] army as violent and murderous as our army has been in Iraq.” —Seymour Hersh

2) “I haven't seen American Sniper, but correct me if I'm wrong: An occupier mows down faceless Iraqis but the real victim is his anguished soul.” – Max Blumenthal

3) “Put a man in uniform, preferably a white man, give him a gun, and Americans will worship him. It is a particularly childish trait, of a childlike culture, that insists on anointing all active military members and police officers as ‘heroes.’ The rhetorical sloppiness and intellectual shallowness of affixing such a reverent label to everyone in the military or law enforcement betrays a frightening cultural streak of nationalism, chauvinism, authoritarianism and totalitarianism, but it also makes honest and serious conversations necessary for the maintenance and enhancement of a fragile democracy nearly impossible….” -- David Masciotra atSalon

4) “American fighters of the Pacific War were not heroes. The desperation of island combat included exchanged barbarities of which no one would willingly speak for a generation. On the American side, there were foul racism, vengeful refusals to take prisoners, a generalized brutality that extended to a savage air war.” —James Carrollin the Boston Globe

5) “…(P)erhaps some readers will understand why my friends and I rip yellow ribbon ‘support the troops’ magnets off of cars or wherever people have affixed them. By ripping off these ribbons, we find a way to deal with our guilt, as though with each ribbon swiped we take back a life that was taken by this senseless war started by our senseless president and those who support him.

I will never say, ‘support the troops.’ I don’t believe in the validity of that statement. People say, ‘I don’t support the war, I support the troops’ as though you can actually separate the two. You cannot; the troops are a part of the war, they have become the war and there is no valid dissection of the two. Other people shout with glaring eyes that we should give up our politics, give up our political affiliations in favor of ‘just supporting the troops.’ I wish everything were that easy.” —Thomas Naughton at the Daily Collegian

 

6) "Forget bringing the troops home from Iraq. We need to get the troops home from World War II. Can anybody tell me why, in 2009, we still have more than sixty thousand troops in Germany and thirty thousand in Japan? At some point, these people are going to have to learn to rape themselves." – Bill Maher

 

7) “My uncle killed by sniper in WW2. We were taught snipers were cowards. Will shoot u in the back. Snipers aren’t heroes. And invaders r worse.”— Michael Moore

8) “What outrages me as a representative of journalists is that there’s not more outrage about the number, and the brutality, and the cavalier nature of the U.S. military toward the killing of journalists in Iraq….They target and kill journalists … uh, from other countries, particularly Arab countries like Al -, like Arab news services like Al-Jazeera, for example. They actually target them and blow up their studios with impunity….” — Newspaper Guild President Linda Foley

9) “Democrat flaks jump on this like ducks on a June-bug, and in the process themselves reproduce the sick militarism of this culture that automatically valorizes anyone who wears a uniform. How dare you insult a soldier! Like its some sacred calling instead of an imperial employment program steeped in the culture of machismo and misogyny.(And you can gasp as theatrically as you want… I spent more than two decades wearing a uniform… that is exactly what it is.)” —Stan Goff at the Huffington Post

10) “Is your enemy the state?
Befriend a recruiter and keep your friends close and your enemies closer!…

This campaign is not about (badgering?) recruiters. It is solely about making friends and finding out more about the military that you don’t trust…

Actions to take:…
Prank-call a recruiter to schedule appointments on the other side of town.
Ask a recruiter to pick you up and then tell them you’re hungry.
Ask a recruiter to take you out to eat.” — A flier from Iraq Vets Against the War

 

11) “THE United States now has a mercenary army. To be sure, our soldiers are hired from within the citizenry, unlike the hated Hessians whom George III recruited to fight against the American Revolutionaries. But like those Hessians, today’s volunteers sign up for some mighty dangerous work largely for wages and benefits….” —David M. Kennedy in the New York Times

 

12) “You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you, you can do well. If you don’t, you get stuck in Iraq.” —John Kerry

 

13) “If a young fella has an option of having a decent career or joining the army to fight in Iraq, you can bet your life that he would not be in Iraq.” —Charles Rangel

14) “For someone who was responsible for, again, nobody knows, but a certain amount of death of innocent people as John McCain was, the time spent in a North Vietnamese prison where he claims to have been tortured was probably time spent that a Catholic priest, for example, would find completely understandable. It’s called doing penance, John. You don’t bomb and kill people for no reason, even when corporate America or your daddy, who was the supreme commander of Southeast Asian forces, South Pacific forces, orders you to do it. You can’t just take orders, we decided that at Nuremberg. So, if you suffered, I am sorry for your suffering, I truly am, in and of itself, but John-John-John, did you think about the suffering of the people you bombed and strafed? They were civilians, you know.” —Mike Malloy

15) “I’m putting my life at risk, literally! And if I slipped… You never know. And I think about it. I think about my family and I’m like, wow, this is like being a police officer or something, in war or something.” —Kanye West

16) “(It’s) very difficult to talk about the war dead and the fallen without invoking valor, without invoking the words ‘heroes.’ I feel … uncomfortable about the word hero because it seems to me that it is so rhetorically proximate to justifications for more war.” —Chris Hayes

17) “Our troops overreacted because of the pressure on them, and they killed innocent civilians in cold blood.” —John Murtha smears the troops on Haditha

 

18) “The recent shootings at Ft. Hood and the resignation of top Foreign Service officer Matthew Hoh demonstrate how even our military officers are opposed to US strategy in Afghanistan.” —Code Pink

19) "A lot of (Kyle's) stories when he was back home in Texas, a lot of his own personal opinions about what he was doing in Iraq, how he viewed Iraqis. Some of what people have described as his racist tendencies towards Iraqis and Muslims when he was going on some of these, you know, killing sprees in Iraq on assignment. So I think there are issues... When he was involved in his -- on assignments in terms of what he was doing. A lot of the description that has come out from his book and some of the terminology that he has used, people have described as racist." -- MSNBC's Ayman Mohyeldin

20) “Real freedom will come when [U.S.] soldiers in Iraq turn their guns on their superiors.” — Warren County Community College adjunct English professor,John Daly

21) “I don’t want to sound like an ad, a public service ad on TV, but the fact is if you can read, you can walk into a job later on. If you don’t, then you’ve got, the Army, Iraq, I don’t know, something like that. It’s, it’s not as bright. So, that’s my little commercial for that.” —Stephen King

 

22) “Through every Abu aib and Haditha, through every rape and murder, the American public has indulged those in uniform….We pay the soldiers a decent wage, take care of their families, provide them with housing and medical care and vast social support systems and ship obscene amenities into the war zone for them, we support them in every possible way, and their attitude is that we should in addition roll over and play dead, defer to the military and the generals and let them fight their war, and give up our rights and responsibilities to speak up because they are above society?…[T]he recent NBC report is just an ugly reminder of the price we pay for a mercenary — oops sorry, volunteer — force that thinks it is doing the dirty work.” —Washington Post blogger, William Arkin

23) “I think Bowe Bergdahl, if he deserted, is a hero – I think throughout history we should build monuments to the unknown deserters.” – Bill Ayers

24) “Do our government’s poorly paid contract killers deserve our ‘support’ for blindly following orders?” —Ted Rall

25) “For those of you who do, as a matter of principle, oppose war in any form, the idea of supporting a conscientious objector who’s already been inducted [and] in his combat service in Iraq might have a certain appeal. But let me ask you this: Would you render the same support to someone who hadn’t conscientiously objected, but rather instead rolled a grenade under their line officer in order to neutralize the combat capacity of their unit?”

 

Later, in a question-and-answer period, Churchill was asked whether the trauma “fragging” inflicts on that officer’s family back home should be considered, he responded: “How do you feel about Adolf Eichmann’s family?” — From Ward Churchill via WorldNetDaily

Originally Posted by teyates:

seeweed, I think I just read a post somewhere in which you were singing the praises of an admitted communist, Bernie Sanders, so

if I have offended you, I consider my work here is done!...Haha....get over it.

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Bernie Sanders is not an admitted communist. He is a democratic socialist. I thought you went to college? Was it a state college by any chance? Did you go to a public school? Have you used the interstate in your lifetime? You can thank democratic socialist for those things. 

History of schooling in U.S.:

 

Government-supported and free public schools for all began to be established after the American Revolution. Between 1750 and 1870 parochial schools appeared as "ad hoc" efforts by parishes. Historically, many parochials elementary schools were developed which were open to all children in the parish, mainly Catholic, but also Lutherans, Calvinists and Orthodox Jews. Nonsectarian Common schools, designed by Horace Mann were opened, which taught the three Rs (of reading, writing, and arithmetic) and also history and geography.

 

In 1823, Reverend Samuel Read Hall founded the first normal school, the Columbian School in Concord, Vermont,[7][8] to improve the quality of the burgeoning common school system by producing more qualified teachers.

 

States passed laws to make schooling compulsory between 1852 (Massachusetts) and 1917 (Mississippi). They also used federal funding designated by the Morrill Land-Grant Colleges Acts of 1862 and 1890 to set up land grant colleges specializing in agriculture and engineering. By 1870, every state had free elementary schools,[9] albeit only in urban centers.

 

Starting from about 1876, thirty-nine states passed a constitutional amendment to their state constitutions, called Blaine Amendments after James G. Blaine, one of their chief promoters, forbidding public tax money be used to fund local parochial schools.

 

Following the American Civil War, the Tuskegee Normal and Industrial Institute was founded in 1881, in Tuskegee, Alabama to train "Colored Teachers", led by Booker T. Washington, (1856-1915), who was himself a freed slave. His movement spread to many other Southern states to establish small colleges for "Colored or Negro" students then (now "Black") entitled "A. & M.", ("Agricultural and Mechanical") or "A. & T.", ("Agricultural and Technical"), some of which later developed into state universities.

 

Responding to many competing academic philosophies being promoted at the time, an influential working group of educators, known as the Committee of Ten was established in 1892, by the National Education Association recommended that children should receive twelve years of instruction, consisting of eight years of elementary education (also known as "grammar schools") followed by four years in high school ("freshmen", "sophomores", "juniors" and "seniors").

 

Gradually by the late 1890s, regional associations of high schools, colleges and universities were being organized to coordinate proper accrediting standards, examinations and regular surveys of various institutions to assure equal treatment in graduation and admissions requirements, course completion and transfer procedures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E...in_the_United_States

 

Democratic Socialism History:

 

The Social Democratic Party of America (SDP) was a short-lived political party in the United States, established in 1898. The group was formed out of elements of the Social Democracy of America (SDA), and was a predecessor to the Socialist Party of America, established in 1901.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...tic_Party_of_America

 

Does this mean democratic socialists own a time machine? Or Jank, did you type an untruth?

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Jank,

You can call him a socialist, I will call him a communist.  His intent is the same. The scum bag wants to take from one group and give to another. His policies are the Liberal ideal.  Talk a big game and convince those who feel like they have been slighted to rise up against the "man".  Throw off those chains of tyranny and servitude and take what is rightfully theirs!... Yeah, all those old lines of BS that sound so good.  Of course when you run out of other people's money and it has to start coming out of yours, your attitude will change.

I went to school.  My parents paid taxes to support the school where I attended. I borrowed the money for the secondary education, and paid it back in full. I use the highways everyday, and consider the exorbitant amount of road use taxes I pay for fuel, as well as the automobile taxes I pay, to help fund those highways. I also use the fire department, support the police, and depend on 9-1-1.  All of which are paid for with the taxes I contribute. 

No, but what I call "communism" and extreme socialism, is the concept of advocating huge taxes on individuals. Taking huge amounts of inheritance from people, when taxes have already been paid on these inheritances. People like Sanders make me sick.  They advocate higher taxes on individuals who make just slightly more than themselves. They are always the victims. Sanders would have you believe that every millionaire in this country got their money by stealing and stepping on the backs of the "little man".  What a tub of horse hockey. He advocates huge tax rates on the "rich", but much like every other Lib on this board, he cannot define who the "rich" are.  Oh, you know them, they drive those big fancy cars, and have yachts.  Haha....the only demeaning quality about people like Sanders is that you can see the envy on their face and in their actions.  They are easy to identify. Others like Hillary hide their true envy and jealousy until they get in position of power.

Originally Posted by Stanky:

History of schooling in U.S.:

 

Government-supported and free public schools for all began to be established after the American Revolution. Between 1750 and 1870 parochial schools appeared as "ad hoc" efforts by parishes. Historically, many parochials elementary schools were developed which were open to all children in the parish, mainly Catholic, but also Lutherans, Calvinists and Orthodox Jews. Nonsectarian Common schools, designed by Horace Mann were opened, which taught the three Rs (of reading, writing, and arithmetic) and also history and geography.

 

In 1823, Reverend Samuel Read Hall founded the first normal school, the Columbian School in Concord, Vermont,[7][8] to improve the quality of the burgeoning common school system by producing more qualified teachers.

 

States passed laws to make schooling compulsory between 1852 (Massachusetts) and 1917 (Mississippi). They also used federal funding designated by the Morrill Land-Grant Colleges Acts of 1862 and 1890 to set up land grant colleges specializing in agriculture and engineering. By 1870, every state had free elementary schools,[9] albeit only in urban centers.

 

Starting from about 1876, thirty-nine states passed a constitutional amendment to their state constitutions, called Blaine Amendments after James G. Blaine, one of their chief promoters, forbidding public tax money be used to fund local parochial schools.

 

Following the American Civil War, the Tuskegee Normal and Industrial Institute was founded in 1881, in Tuskegee, Alabama to train "Colored Teachers", led by Booker T. Washington, (1856-1915), who was himself a freed slave. His movement spread to many other Southern states to establish small colleges for "Colored or Negro" students then (now "Black") entitled "A. & M.", ("Agricultural and Mechanical") or "A. & T.", ("Agricultural and Technical"), some of which later developed into state universities.

 

Responding to many competing academic philosophies being promoted at the time, an influential working group of educators, known as the Committee of Ten was established in 1892, by the National Education Association recommended that children should receive twelve years of instruction, consisting of eight years of elementary education (also known as "grammar schools") followed by four years in high school ("freshmen", "sophomores", "juniors" and "seniors").

 

Gradually by the late 1890s, regional associations of high schools, colleges and universities were being organized to coordinate proper accrediting standards, examinations and regular surveys of various institutions to assure equal treatment in graduation and admissions requirements, course completion and transfer procedures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E...in_the_United_States

 

Democratic Socialism History:

 

The Social Democratic Party of America (SDP) was a short-lived political party in the United States, established in 1898. The group was formed out of elements of the Social Democracy of America (SDA), and was a predecessor to the Socialist Party of America, established in 1901.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...tic_Party_of_America

 

Does this mean democratic socialists own a time machine? Or Jank, did you type an untruth?

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No untruth. Just facts. Here is an article from the blaze. As far right as you can get, so maybe you will believe Glenn.

 

 http://www.theblaze.com/storie...nning-for-president/

 

Also, there is a difference between Social Democratic party and a Democratic Socialist.

I'm not sure what point you were trying to make with the school history. 

Originally Posted by teyates:

No, but what I call "communism" and extreme socialism, is the concept of advocating huge taxes on individuals. Taking huge amounts of inheritance from people, when taxes have already been paid on these inheritances. People like Sanders make me sick.  They advocate higher taxes on individuals who make just slightly more than themselves. They are always the victims. Sanders would have you believe that every millionaire in this country got their money by stealing and stepping on the backs of the "little man".  What a tub of horse hockey. He advocates huge tax rates on the "rich", but much like every other Lib on this board, he cannot define who the "rich" are.  Oh, you know them, they drive those big fancy cars, and have yachts.  Haha....the only demeaning quality about people like Sanders is that you can see the envy on their face and in their actions.  They are easy to identify. Others like Hillary hide their true envy and jealousy until they get in position of power.

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Ok Teyates, then you are opting for the willfully ignorant route. That's fine, I really didn't think you would vote for Bernie Sanders anyway. It wouldn't matter if he had a I, or D after his name...it's not an R, right? 

 

We can either start addressing the huge income inequality that is growing in this country or we can wait for the revolution. I prefer to address it now and avoid the bloodshed. You can go on yelling "Let them eat cake" till your head rolls.

Originally Posted by Jankinonya:
Originally Posted by Stanky:

History of schooling in U.S.:

 

Government-supported and free public schools for all began to be established after the American Revolution. Between 1750 and 1870 parochial schools appeared as "ad hoc" efforts by parishes. Historically, many parochials elementary schools were developed which were open to all children in the parish, mainly Catholic, but also Lutherans, Calvinists and Orthodox Jews. Nonsectarian Common schools, designed by Horace Mann were opened, which taught the three Rs (of reading, writing, and arithmetic) and also history and geography.

 

In 1823, Reverend Samuel Read Hall founded the first normal school, the Columbian School in Concord, Vermont,[7][8] to improve the quality of the burgeoning common school system by producing more qualified teachers.

 

States passed laws to make schooling compulsory between 1852 (Massachusetts) and 1917 (Mississippi). They also used federal funding designated by the Morrill Land-Grant Colleges Acts of 1862 and 1890 to set up land grant colleges specializing in agriculture and engineering. By 1870, every state had free elementary schools,[9] albeit only in urban centers.

 

Starting from about 1876, thirty-nine states passed a constitutional amendment to their state constitutions, called Blaine Amendments after James G. Blaine, one of their chief promoters, forbidding public tax money be used to fund local parochial schools.

 

Following the American Civil War, the Tuskegee Normal and Industrial Institute was founded in 1881, in Tuskegee, Alabama to train "Colored Teachers", led by Booker T. Washington, (1856-1915), who was himself a freed slave. His movement spread to many other Southern states to establish small colleges for "Colored or Negro" students then (now "Black") entitled "A. & M.", ("Agricultural and Mechanical") or "A. & T.", ("Agricultural and Technical"), some of which later developed into state universities.

 

Responding to many competing academic philosophies being promoted at the time, an influential working group of educators, known as the Committee of Ten was established in 1892, by the National Education Association recommended that children should receive twelve years of instruction, consisting of eight years of elementary education (also known as "grammar schools") followed by four years in high school ("freshmen", "sophomores", "juniors" and "seniors").

 

Gradually by the late 1890s, regional associations of high schools, colleges and universities were being organized to coordinate proper accrediting standards, examinations and regular surveys of various institutions to assure equal treatment in graduation and admissions requirements, course completion and transfer procedures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E...in_the_United_States

 

Democratic Socialism History:

 

The Social Democratic Party of America (SDP) was a short-lived political party in the United States, established in 1898. The group was formed out of elements of the Social Democracy of America (SDA), and was a predecessor to the Socialist Party of America, established in 1901.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S...tic_Party_of_America

 

Does this mean democratic socialists own a time machine? Or Jank, did you type an untruth?

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No untruth. Just facts. Here is an article from the blaze. As far right as you can get, so maybe you will believe Glenn.

 

 http://www.theblaze.com/storie...nning-for-president/

 

Also, there is a difference between Social Democratic party and a Democratic Socialist.

I'm not sure what point you were trying to make with the school history. 

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Duh, public education predates any form of socialism especially any organized socialist party in the U.S.

Originally Posted by direstraits:

Jank is using the old argument that all public services are socialist, which is as far from the truth or definition of socialism as can be

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If Jank really wants the interstate system to be from one of her Democrat Socialists, she would have to accept Schicklgruber as one of the club.They were copied from the National Socialist German Autobahns. Well, the abortion mills might be close enough to the gas chambers for them to be the same difference.

Originally Posted by teyates:

No, but what I call "communism" and extreme socialism, is the concept of advocating huge taxes on individuals. Taking huge amounts of inheritance from people, when taxes have already been paid on these inheritances. People like Sanders make me sick.  They advocate higher taxes on individuals who make just slightly more than themselves. They are always the victims. Sanders would have you believe that every millionaire in this country got their money by stealing and stepping on the backs of the "little man".  What a tub of horse hockey. He advocates huge tax rates on the "rich", but much like every other Lib on this board, he cannot define who the "rich" are.  Oh, you know them, they drive those big fancy cars, and have yachts.  Haha....the only demeaning quality about people like Sanders is that you can see the envy on their face and in their actions.  They are easy to identify. Others like Hillary hide their true envy and jealousy until they get in position of power.

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To quote Jank, you have no idea what socialism is .  Did you fail political science in college, or just skip it.?

 

Originally Posted by direstraits:

Eisenhower initiated the interstate system after experiencing the miserable condition of US roads and the problems with transporting men and materiel in WWII.

 

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The Interstate Highway System gained a champion in President Dwight D. Eisenhower, who was influenced by his experiences as a young Army officer crossing the country in the 1919 Army Convoy on the Lincoln Highway, the first road across America. Eisenhower gained an appreciation of the Reichsautobahn system, the first "national" implementation of modern Germany's Autobahn network, as a necessary component of a national defense system while he was serving as Supreme Commander of the Allied forces in Europe during World War II.[9] He recognized that the proposed system would also provide key ground transport routes for military supplies and troop deployments in case of an emergency or foreign invasion.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I...state_Highway_System

 

C'mon JT

The woman, who is the leading Democrat candidate, is providing easy fodder for those of us who believe there are many more viable and less obtrusive candidates out there.  It is "insulting" to me to think that just because she is a woman, and because she was a previous first lady, that she deserves to be POTUS. She served as Secretary of State, and in believed to have been complacent in her duties, leading directly to the deaths of at least four employees of the federal government in Benghazi.  THEN, she willfilly covered that up, and refuses to surrender government owned property (her emails) for review. As good, or bad, as you might think I am, this woman is toxic, and I will not fail to point that out as long as she is running for office in the public trust. Seeweed and Jank can question my education, and doubt my knowledge of government all they wish, but again I think I have a pretty good fix on the situation at hand and the direction these people are taking our country.

 

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Seeweed and Jank can question my education, and doubt my knowledge of government all they wish,

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Not exactly the two sharpest pencils in the box, so if I were you I wouldn't really worry what those two gimmethats think. Actually none of them are sharp, so if you want intelligent debate from a lefty you aren't going to find it here. I'm not sure it's to be found anywhere.

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